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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 11:36:18 GMT -5
1. Stanford. 2-10. Not a clue. At first glance, I thought the OP had Minnesota, Kentucky and Illinois all a bit too high. Kentucky mostly because they always seem to get crushed when it comes Elite 8 time. I think SSS is a big loss for MN. Yes, they are talented and bring back the rest of their lineup. But, she was the engine. She made it hum, she allowed them to play with pace, she bettered a lot of balls most setters can't. If I had to rank 2-10, I'd probably lean toward this: 2. Texas 3. Nebraska 4. Penn State 5. Minnesota 6. Oregon 7. Wisconsin 8. Kentucky 9. Washington 10. Pitt I like this, but Florida has to be somewhere in there, right? You're right. An oversight. I might throw them at #9 and bump Washington and Pitt down.
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Post by ShaneM2005 on Feb 6, 2019 12:04:12 GMT -5
Wouldn't be so sure about Kentucky at #3. Ask the AVCA pre-season voting last season. Good thing you don't base one season's pre-season rankings on the previous year's pre-season rankings... Totally missed the point, but thank you for the condescension.
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Post by donut on Feb 6, 2019 12:21:29 GMT -5
Good thing you don't base one season's pre-season rankings on the previous year's pre-season rankings... Totally missed the point, but thank you for the condescension. What was your point, then? That they were over-ranked last year, so that #3 means they are over-ranked this year? 'Cause that's the only point you insinuated in your post.
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Post by horns1 on Feb 6, 2019 12:23:04 GMT -5
1. Stanford. 2-10. Not a clue. At first glance, I thought the OP had Minnesota, Kentucky and Illinois all a bit too high. Kentucky mostly because they always seem to get crushed when it comes Elite 8 time. I think SSS is a big loss for MN. Yes, they are talented and bring back the rest of their lineup. But, she was the engine. She made it hum, she allowed them to play with pace, she bettered a lot of balls most setters can't. If I had to rank 2-10, I'd probably lean toward this: 2. Texas 3. Nebraska 4. Penn State 5. Minnesota 6. Oregon 7. Wisconsin 8. Kentucky 9. Washington 10. Pitt Not sure I'd rank my Texas squad that high at the moment; of course, I'm waiting to see what will happen at the setter position. I'd put us around #5 based on youth and not having the setter situation settled at this time (as far as I know). We may get those answers in the Spring matches next month.
It is fun to speculate; it's getting harder and harder to replace experienced senior setters with freshman setters and expect the teams not to miss a beat; that's why I can't place teams with first time setters (especially freshmen) in the Top 5.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 12:33:24 GMT -5
I still think 2-10 is a total crapshoot. Texas will be the most talented front line of that group (As usual). Plus, I think that they'll be well positioned for a top-4 seed by year's end. Plus, in this sport it's a safe bet to put Stanford, Texas, Nebraska and PSU as your top-4 every year. You're bound to be correct
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Post by bluepenquin on Feb 6, 2019 13:20:29 GMT -5
I still think 2-10 is a total crapshoot. Texas will be the most talented front line of that group (As usual). Plus, I think that they'll be well positioned for a top-4 seed by year's end. Plus, in this sport it's a safe bet to put Stanford, Texas, Nebraska and PSU as your top-4 every year. You're bound to be correct Your right about those top 4 every year - but we are getting close to adding Minnesota and Wisconsin to this list.
I am not sure about Texas being best positioned for a Top-4 seed. I think they may have a better chance than anyone else outside of Stanford (and that may be what you mean) - but they don't necessarily have an advantage over the top 2 or 3 that come out of the Big Ten or whoever wins the SEC. It is knowing who those teams will be that is difficult. The rest of the Big 12 was terrible for Texas last year - good in terms of RPI, but terrible in very high quality wins in conference. The rest of the Big 12 is getting better - but this in turn can limit the number of Top 10/15 type wins that are helpful for Regional host seed.
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Post by ShaneM2005 on Feb 6, 2019 13:48:33 GMT -5
Totally missed the point, but thank you for the condescension. What was your point, then? That they were over-ranked last year, so that #3 means they are over-ranked this year? 'Cause that's the only point you insinuated in your post. You referenced pre-season to pre-season. See above. I only meant that their pre-season was pretty high in 2018 so I'll wait to see how they do this season before I rank them that high. I had no idea someone could get so butt hurt over another poster's rankings.
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Post by ay2013 on Feb 6, 2019 14:32:43 GMT -5
At the top - I see it right now as: Tier 1: Stanford Tier 2: Kentucky, Minnesota, Nebraska, Oregon, Penn State, Texas, Wisconsin Tier 3: BYU, Florida, Illinois, USC, Washington So, I would have Oregon and Penn State rated higher. Oregon - I don't think they miss a beat with Redshirt FR Kylie Robinson at setter and add fellow Redshirt Karson Bacon in the middle and I think this team will be better than last year. Replacing Vander Weide will be the concern - but they have 3 incoming senior ace options. Penn State - They lose Reed and Weiskricher. I think they will be fine a setter with Blossom. Their talented freshman from last year (Parker, Hord, Gray) should be better. The issue will be their OH - with Leath and several capable options. Penn state loses Leath too.
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Post by ay2013 on Feb 6, 2019 14:35:45 GMT -5
1. Stanford. 2-10. Not a clue. At first glance, I thought the OP had Minnesota, Kentucky and Illinois all a bit too high. Kentucky mostly because they always seem to get crushed when it comes Elite 8 time. I think SSS is a big loss for MN. Yes, they are talented and bring back the rest of their lineup. But, she was the engine. She made it hum, she allowed them to play with pace, she bettered a lot of balls most setters can't. If I had to rank 2-10, I'd probably lean toward this: 2. Texas 3. Nebraska 4. Penn State 5. Minnesota 6. Oregon 7. Wisconsin 8. Kentucky 9. Washington 10. Pitt But seriously, who is hitting on the LS for Oregon?
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Post by donut on Feb 6, 2019 14:50:08 GMT -5
What was your point, then? That they were over-ranked last year, so that #3 means they are over-ranked this year? 'Cause that's the only point you insinuated in your post. You referenced pre-season to pre-season. See above. I only meant that their pre-season was pretty high in 2018 so I'll wait to see how they do this season before I rank them that high. I had no idea someone could get so butt hurt over another poster's rankings. ... the thread title says " Preseason Top 10" and your post says Wouldn't be so sure about Kentucky at #3. Ask the AVCA pre-season voting last season. YOU referenced pre-season to pre-season. And stop being dramatic, lol. The one getting "butt hurt" (*eye roll* at that term) over anything is you and your response to someone questioning/challenging your statement. The 2018 pre-season rankings have zero relation to the 2019 pre-season rankings. I don't think Kentucky #3 in the country either, but that has nothing to do with how they were ranked at the beginning of last season.
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Post by bluepenquin on Feb 6, 2019 14:51:37 GMT -5
1. Stanford. 2-10. Not a clue. At first glance, I thought the OP had Minnesota, Kentucky and Illinois all a bit too high. Kentucky mostly because they always seem to get crushed when it comes Elite 8 time. I think SSS is a big loss for MN. Yes, they are talented and bring back the rest of their lineup. But, she was the engine. She made it hum, she allowed them to play with pace, she bettered a lot of balls most setters can't. If I had to rank 2-10, I'd probably lean toward this: 2. Texas 3. Nebraska 4. Penn State 5. Minnesota 6. Oregon 7. Wisconsin 8. Kentucky 9. Washington 10. Pitt But seriously, who is hitting on the LS for Oregon? Replacing the OH is clearly the issue for Penn State and Oregon. I think both teams have enough viable young options that a couple will likely break through.
Oregon: I would assume that Borup will be one of them along with anyone of those Freshman: Williams, Lewis, Laita. Penn State: They look to be in a similar situation with Cathey and 3 Freshman: Clark, Ferguson, Bailey
I suppose a lot will depend on how quickly those Freshman come around.
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Post by ShaneM2005 on Feb 6, 2019 15:10:58 GMT -5
You referenced pre-season to pre-season. See above. I only meant that their pre-season was pretty high in 2018 so I'll wait to see how they do this season before I rank them that high. I had no idea someone could get so butt hurt over another poster's rankings. ... the thread title says " Preseason Top 10" and your post says Wouldn't be so sure about Kentucky at #3. Ask the AVCA pre-season voting last season. YOU referenced pre-season to pre-season. And stop being dramatic, lol. The one getting "butt hurt" (*eye roll* at that term) over anything is you and your response to someone questioning/challenging your statement. The 2018 pre-season rankings have zero relation to the 2019 pre-season rankings. I don't think Kentucky #3 in the country either, but that has nothing to do with how they were ranked at the beginning of last season. Have fun splitting hairs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 16:04:32 GMT -5
1. Stanford. 2-10. Not a clue. At first glance, I thought the OP had Minnesota, Kentucky and Illinois all a bit too high. Kentucky mostly because they always seem to get crushed when it comes Elite 8 time. I think SSS is a big loss for MN. Yes, they are talented and bring back the rest of their lineup. But, she was the engine. She made it hum, she allowed them to play with pace, she bettered a lot of balls most setters can't. If I had to rank 2-10, I'd probably lean toward this: 2. Texas 3. Nebraska 4. Penn State 5. Minnesota 6. Oregon 7. Wisconsin 8. Kentucky 9. Washington 10. Pitt But seriously, who is hitting on the LS for Oregon? I think you can go down the line of anyone other than Stanford and ask similar questions as to why they are where they are. It's a question of whether you think there are adequate replacements on hand. Who is setting for Texas? Who replaces Foecke and Maloney for Nebraska? Is Lexi happy? Who will the OHs be at PSU? Who is setting for Minnesota? What is the health of Wisconsin's OHs? Even Stanford has questions, though they're good questions to have: Who starts in the middle for Alade? Which 2018 starter is either not playing because they were displaced by Kipp, or have moved positions to work Kipp into the mix? Fitzmorris turned into a hell of an OPP, but does she slide back to middle?
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Post by cbrown1709 on Feb 6, 2019 16:38:53 GMT -5
Kentucky is one middle and a consistent rightside away from being Top 5.
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Post by hammer on Feb 6, 2019 16:50:01 GMT -5
Damn, my Prep Volleyball subscription ran out so I looked in my junk email for a discount code and found HOLIDAY, but too late, that code expired.
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