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Post by photos1 on Jan 17, 2020 2:51:26 GMT -5
Seriously? You mean from all of those 25,000 who go to their games, or all the football fans in NYC. Come on, you don’t believe that. . . No one is brought to BTN because of Rutgers. . . Let’s see how it plays out. . . Rutgers doesn’t deserve to be in the B1G. Sad Yes - deal to bring Maryland and Rutgers to the B1G was 100% about TV revenue. deadspin.com/the-big-ten-got-exactly-what-it-wanted-in-rutgers-1787628419And the return on the Rutgers $$ is like a Madorff investment. They have D3 facilities, and D2 athletes for the most part, not exactly what the B1G had in mind. They hired a football coach who thinks he’s Vince Lombardi-he’s not; And now a mediocre VB coach expected to compete in the best VB conference-she won’t. The B1G needs to end the the Rutgers experiment. . . #BuyersREMORSE
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Post by bigfan on Jan 17, 2020 9:54:08 GMT -5
And the return on the Rutgers $$ is like a Madorff investment. They have D3 facilities, and D2 athletes for the most part, not exactly what the B1G had in mind. They hired a football coach who thinks he’s Vince Lombardi-he’s not; And now a mediocre VB coach expected to compete in the best VB conference-she won’t. The B1G needs to end the the Rutgers experiment. . . #BuyersREMORSE Julie Hermann still haunting the school
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Post by bbk on Jan 17, 2020 12:05:02 GMT -5
And the return on the Rutgers $$ is like a Madorff investment. They have D3 facilities, and D2 athletes for the most part, not exactly what the B1G had in mind. They hired a football coach who thinks he’s Vince Lombardi-he’s not; And now a mediocre VB coach expected to compete in the best VB conference-she won’t. The B1G needs to end the the Rutgers experiment. . . #BuyersREMORSE Why are you so angry about a program that is 3rd in the B1G M BB currently? This is plain and simple a money grab and about positioning on cable networks. As for VB, there are usually more people rooting for PSU when they play there than for RU. (LA Chargers Syndrome) This coach will try and build on what CJ left behind. she will probably struggle but we expect way too much. I also agree that I loved the old conferences but $$$ is the root of many evils.
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Post by aardvark on Jan 17, 2020 12:52:28 GMT -5
I also agree that I loved the old conferences but $$$ is the root of many evils. That evil money goes to each school and helps each school compete against schools outside the B1G. Eventually, Rutgers will start catching up, due to the big increase of money over what they used to get. It takes time, especially when their main focus is in other sports.
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Post by bbk on Jan 17, 2020 18:59:37 GMT -5
I also agree that I loved the old conferences but $$$ is the root of many evils. That evil money goes to each school and helps each school compete against schools outside the B1G. Eventually, Rutgers will start catching up, due to the big increase of money over what they used to get. It takes time, especially when their main focus is in other sports. I agree.
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Post by dnabrgr on Jan 18, 2020 8:05:10 GMT -5
#9 Anastasiya Kudryashova #11 Merle Weidt #12 Caitlin Kikta are no longer on the roster.
#10 Inna Balyko is still on the roster, does this indicate anything?
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Jan 18, 2020 8:23:36 GMT -5
#9 Anastasiya Kudryashova #11 Merle Weidt #12 Caitlin Kikta are no longer on the roster. #10 Inna Balyko is still on the roster, does this indicate anything? Sometimes it means that the school wants her back and has an offer - if you don't find what you want then you can come back have a scholarship. It happened in Minnesota with Barnes.
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Post by Ms mintonette on Jan 21, 2020 11:32:01 GMT -5
I have a small connection to Rutgers (having grown up near the school) and am upset with their decision. I happen to know candidate #1 & who I believe was #2. Not outright stating #2’s name, here’s a glimpse of each
#1: 6 years HC exp over the course of 2 different D1 schools; overall W/L % in low to Mid-Major D1 = .403; overall W/L% in Conf @ low to Mid-Major D1 = .302; took 2 different teams to post season conference play. Total years post season play 2/6 = 33%
#2: 18 years HC exp with 15 at D1 schools; overall W/L % in low to Mid Major D1 = .671; overall W/L% in Conf @ low to Mid-Major D1 = .775; took 5 different teams to post season conference play. Total years post season play 17/18 = .944; 3 trips to NCAA tourney Oh, I forgot to mention. #1 female. #2 male
Rutgers move………hire #1, as we all know now
Let me also mention that I heard a muttering that the admin stated none of them are in jeopardy of being fired for making a bad vb hire, but they couldn’t miss in other sports like football and basketball. This one statement eludes to the fact that they do not care about the volleyball program. Their hired proved it. Why get rid of CJ then? It wasn’t about win and losses with him either. They felt the girls needed a better experience outside of vb. They will never have a good experience if vb is the top priority, which is what CJ focused on. You see, therefore, this was a strategic hire to under fund the program, once again in hopes of keeping the team happy at any cost (except from winning).
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Post by toomuchvb on Jan 21, 2020 11:40:08 GMT -5
Ouch. That hurt.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 21, 2020 11:51:33 GMT -5
I have a small connection to Rutgers (having grown up near the school) and am upset with their decision. I happen to know candidate #1 & who I believe was #2. Not outright stating #2’s name, here’s a glimpse of each #1: 6 years HC exp over the course of 2 different D1 schools; overall W/L % in low to Mid-Major D1 = .403; overall W/L% in Conf @ low to Mid-Major D1 = .302; took 2 different teams to post season conference play. Total years post season play 2/6 = 33% #2: 18 years HC exp with 15 at D1 schools; overall W/L % in low to Mid Major D1 = .671; overall W/L% in Conf @ low to Mid-Major D1 = .775; took 5 different teams to post season conference play. Total years post season play 17/18 = .944; 3 trips to NCAA tourney Oh, I forgot to mention. #1 female. #2 male Rutgers move………hire #1, as we all know now Let me also mention that I heard a muttering that the admin stated none of them are in jeopardy of being fired for making a bad vb hire, but they couldn’t miss in other sports like football and basketball. This one statement eludes to the fact that they do not care about the volleyball program. Their hired proved it. Why get rid of CJ then? It wasn’t about win and losses with him either. They felt the girls needed a better experience outside of vb. They will never have a good experience if vb is the top priority, which is what CJ focused on. You see, therefore, this was a strategic hire to under fund the program, once again in hopes of keeping the team happy at any cost (except from winning). Sounds like to me they did your friend a favor by not hiring them.
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Post by sigmatic on Jan 21, 2020 16:19:53 GMT -5
The roster is down to 7 players. Looking for transfers.
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Post by vbnerd on Jan 21, 2020 16:44:45 GMT -5
No, it IS the B1G . . . Rutgers owes it to the B1G to field competitive teams. They are being paid millions$$$ to do so, or to make strides toward being competitive. . . This isn’t a serious hire for a team in the best vb conference in America. . . This is an 0-20 hire. . . My question, and I am not being sarcastic, is how far into the 20s will Rutgers go before they win a conference match? 2022? 2026? This is sad at this point. I can't quite remember...who was the last A-10 coach of the year who went to the B1G? That would be Kelly Sheffield, I believe. And before that, Russ Rose.
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Post by dnabrgr on Jan 21, 2020 17:05:27 GMT -5
Why get rid of CJ then? It wasn’t about win and losses with him either. They felt the girls needed a better experience outside of vb. They will never have a good experience if vb is the top priority, which is what CJ focused on. You see, therefore, this was a strategic hire to under fund the program, once again in hopes of keeping the team happy at any cost (except from winning). How do you keep volleyball players happy outside of volleyball?
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Post by justahick on Jan 21, 2020 17:40:00 GMT -5
I have a small connection to Rutgers (having grown up near the school) and am upset with their decision. I happen to know candidate #1 & who I believe was #2. Not outright stating #2’s name, here’s a glimpse of each #1: 6 years HC exp over the course of 2 different D1 schools; overall W/L % in low to Mid-Major D1 = .403; overall W/L% in Conf @ low to Mid-Major D1 = .302; took 2 different teams to post season conference play. Total years post season play 2/6 = 33% #2: 18 years HC exp with 15 at D1 schools; overall W/L % in low to Mid Major D1 = .671; overall W/L% in Conf @ low to Mid-Major D1 = .775; took 5 different teams to post season conference play. Total years post season play 17/18 = .944; 3 trips to NCAA tourney Oh, I forgot to mention. #1 female. #2 male Rutgers move………hire #1, as we all know now Let me also mention that I heard a muttering that the admin stated none of them are in jeopardy of being fired for making a bad vb hire, but they couldn’t miss in other sports like football and basketball. This one statement eludes to the fact that they do not care about the volleyball program. Their hired proved it. Why get rid of CJ then? It wasn’t about win and losses with him either. They felt the girls needed a better experience outside of vb. They will never have a good experience if vb is the top priority, which is what CJ focused on. You see, therefore, this was a strategic hire to under fund the program, once again in hopes of keeping the team happy at any cost (except from winning). There were problems with the team off the court - one specific incident lead to administrative disciplinary action against many of the players. That was the primary mover behind CJ's departure. My understanding is that the situation wasn't really CJ's fault, but it was a big enough deal that the AD felt that they had to clean house.
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Post by justahick on Jan 21, 2020 18:21:20 GMT -5
I have a small connection to Rutgers (having grown up near the school) and am upset with their decision. I happen to know candidate #1 & who I believe was #2. Not outright stating #2’s name, here’s a glimpse of each #1: 6 years HC exp over the course of 2 different D1 schools; overall W/L % in low to Mid-Major D1 = .403; overall W/L% in Conf @ low to Mid-Major D1 = .302; took 2 different teams to post season conference play. Total years post season play 2/6 = 33% #2: 18 years HC exp with 15 at D1 schools; overall W/L % in low to Mid Major D1 = .671; overall W/L% in Conf @ low to Mid-Major D1 = .775; took 5 different teams to post season conference play. Total years post season play 17/18 = .944; 3 trips to NCAA tourney Oh, I forgot to mention. #1 female. #2 male Rutgers move………hire #1, as we all know now Let me also mention that I heard a muttering that the admin stated none of them are in jeopardy of being fired for making a bad vb hire, but they couldn’t miss in other sports like football and basketball. This one statement eludes to the fact that they do not care about the volleyball program. Their hired proved it. Why get rid of CJ then? It wasn’t about win and losses with him either. They felt the girls needed a better experience outside of vb. They will never have a good experience if vb is the top priority, which is what CJ focused on. You see, therefore, this was a strategic hire to under fund the program, once again in hopes of keeping the team happy at any cost (except from winning). Both coaches have the experience to do the job and since we know where coach #1 had to take the team from to get to .401, we can see that there is a lot more than comparing w/l records to evaluating the hire. This is especially true at the low-mid d1 level where records tell only a small fraction of the story. For example, most low and many mid major winning programs have a HUGE funding edge over their competition - a couple of programs are fully funded with 2 full time assistants competing against 1/2 funded programs with 1.5 coaches for example. So before you start the male/female debate, give us the details behind the records that really matter. Then we can start talking about interviews, philosophy, vision, etc, along with gender.
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