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Post by holidayhusker on Aug 22, 2020 7:27:24 GMT -5
The advantage of being a rich white mother in America vs being a poor black mother in America: We have almost 100% Caucasian people living there. Most of the white women, mothers, are poverty level. So your statement is just stupid and untrue.
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Post by n00b on Aug 22, 2020 11:16:10 GMT -5
The advantage of being a rich white mother in America vs being a poor black mother in America: First, I would absolutely agree that these are instances where wealth doesn’t matter and they should be treated the same under the law. However, after two quick google searches, that seems like complete fake news. Williams-Bolar served 10 days in jail. The 3-year ‘sentence’ was probation. Laughlin got 2 months in prison and 2 years of supervised release. Laughlin’s sentence certainly seems worse to me.
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Post by trojansc on Aug 22, 2020 12:35:49 GMT -5
The advantage of being a rich white mother in America vs being a poor black mother in America: First, I would absolutely agree that these are instances where wealth doesn’t matter and they should be treated the same under the law. However, after two quick google searches, that seems like complete fake news. Williams-Bolar served 10 days in jail. The 3-year ‘sentence’ was probation. Laughlin got 2 months in prison and 2 years of supervised release. Laughlin’s sentence certainly seems worse to me. Exaggerated news is different from fake news. 10 days in jail was 10 too many. Laughlin’s sentence is only worse if we’re talking about raw time served. The proportion of crime:sentence does NOT seem like Laughlin got the worse sentence. 10 days : lying about an address 60 days : fraud, money laundering, bribery, etc. We’re also talking about the University of Southern California vs. some Ohio school in the Copley-Fairlawn School District.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 12:38:55 GMT -5
The advantage of being a rich white mother in America vs being a poor black mother in America: We have almost 100% Caucasian people living there. Most of the white women, mothers, are poverty level. So your statement is just stupid and untrue. You've said a lot of stupid things on VolleyTalk, but you really ought to have this one framed. I'm not sure you will ever be able to top it. And the sad thing? You probably don't even know why.
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Post by n00b on Aug 22, 2020 12:59:15 GMT -5
First, I would absolutely agree that these are instances where wealth doesn’t matter and they should be treated the same under the law. However, after two quick google searches, that seems like complete fake news. Williams-Bolar served 10 days in jail. The 3-year ‘sentence’ was probation. Laughlin got 2 months in prison and 2 years of supervised release. Laughlin’s sentence certainly seems worse to me. Exaggerated news is different from fake news. 10 days in jail was 10 too many. I guess we can agree to disagree on this. That tweet is dishonest and the author is intentionally getting people to believe something that isn’t true. If you’re comparing sentences inside one tweet, there is absolutely no reason to assume that one sentence is referring to probation and the other sentence is jail time. It’s lying.
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Post by n00b on Aug 22, 2020 13:01:21 GMT -5
First, I would absolutely agree that these are instances where wealth doesn’t matter and they should be treated the same under the law. However, after two quick google searches, that seems like complete fake news. Williams-Bolar served 10 days in jail. The 3-year ‘sentence’ was probation. Laughlin got 2 months in prison and 2 years of supervised release. Laughlin’s sentence certainly seems worse to me. She was “sentenced” to two 5-year concurrent sentences and then those sentences were suspended to 10 days. Loughlin was “sentenced” to 2 months for an infinitely worse crime for which yes, she does deserve a worse sentence. I’m curious, what makes Loughlin’s an ‘infinitely worse’ crime? (For the record I’m for school choice, so Williams-Bolar wouldn’t feel the need to lie)
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Post by holidayhusker on Aug 22, 2020 13:53:46 GMT -5
We have almost 100% Caucasian people living there. Most of the white women, mothers, are poverty level. So your statement is just stupid and untrue. You've said a lot of stupid things on VolleyTalk, but you really ought to have this one framed. I'm not sure you will ever be able to top it. And the sad thing? You probably don't even know why. I am so sick of your social justice warrior racist crap. There are poor people everywhere. They are the disadvantaged everywhere, especially in rural America.You are so racist it stinks. Unless you’re black or brown you don’t matter. But continue to sit on your high horse. You love it up there.
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Post by holidayhusker on Aug 22, 2020 13:54:53 GMT -5
She was “sentenced” to two 5-year concurrent sentences and then those sentences were suspended to 10 days. Loughlin was “sentenced” to 2 months for an infinitely worse crime for which yes, she does deserve a worse sentence. I’m curious, what makes Loughlin’s an ‘infinitely worse’ crime? (For the record I’m for schooling l choice, so Williams-Bolar wouldn’t feel the need to lie) I think it’s hilarious that Democrats scream about prison reform but yet think they should throw away the key concerning Lori Loughlin. More ugly hypocrisy from the left
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Post by mervinswerved on Aug 22, 2020 14:15:01 GMT -5
How about we just stop sending people to prison at all for anything but the most violent offenses? Laughlin and her husband can make restitution, perform community service, home arrest, and some sort of counseling or rehabilitation program. Same goes for the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of nonviolent offenders in America.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 15:09:27 GMT -5
You've said a lot of stupid things on VolleyTalk, but you really ought to have this one framed. I'm not sure you will ever be able to top it. And the sad thing? You probably don't even know why. I am so sick of your social justice warrior racist crap. There are poor people everywhere. They are the disadvantaged everywhere, especially in rural America.You are so racist it stinks. Unless you’re black or brown you don’t matter. But continue to sit on your high horse. You love it up there. Like I said ...
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Post by n00b on Aug 22, 2020 16:16:42 GMT -5
How about we just stop sending people to prison at all for anything but the most violent offenses? Laughlin and her husband can make restitution, perform community service, home arrest, and some sort of counseling or rehabilitation program. Same goes for the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of nonviolent offenders in America. I agree with this. I was mostly pointing out how intentionally misleading the Tweet was to try to get a rise out of people.
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Post by trojansc on Aug 22, 2020 16:20:24 GMT -5
Exaggerated news is different from fake news. 10 days in jail was 10 too many. I guess we can agree to disagree on this. That tweet is dishonest and the author is intentionally getting people to believe something that isn’t true. If you’re comparing sentences inside one tweet, there is absolutely no reason to assume that one sentence is referring to probation and the other sentence is jail time. It’s lying. I think its common to exaggerate. It’s intentional, but aren’t most headlines like that? The wording is also ambiguous, again intentional. But if it gets attention, I guess the goal is achieved. I also think it’s the wrong thing to focus on.
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Post by n00b on Aug 22, 2020 16:23:57 GMT -5
I guess we can agree to disagree on this. That tweet is dishonest and the author is intentionally getting people to believe something that isn’t true. If you’re comparing sentences inside one tweet, there is absolutely no reason to assume that one sentence is referring to probation and the other sentence is jail time. It’s lying. I think its common to exaggerate. It’s intentional, but aren’t most headlines like that? The wording is also ambiguous, again intentional. But if it gets attention, I guess the goal is achieved. I also think it’s the wrong thing to focus on. Clearly he wants the focus to be about racism. It shouldn't be too hard to find real examples of it. To me, if this is an example of racism in our country, then we don't have a problem with racism.
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Post by trojansc on Aug 22, 2020 17:28:46 GMT -5
There’s racism and wealth privilege at play here.
“ One survey of public schools in Berkeley, California, for instance, suggested that 8 to 12 percent of enrolled students lived out-of-bounds.
What is uncommon is for parents to be charged with a felony for engaging in the practice, rather than having their children unenrolled or being fined or, perhaps most likely, the school district looking the other way. After her kids started in the Copley-Fairlawn schools, Williams-Bolar noticed someone following her and worried she was being stalked. She started carrying mace. That “stalker” was a private investigator hired by the school district to prove that Williams-Bolar’s girls were out-of-bounds.”
And of course, segregation is definitely at play here. Felony charges? Seriously?
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Post by guest2 on Aug 22, 2020 17:43:45 GMT -5
How about we just stop sending people to prison at all for anything but the most violent offenses? Laughlin and her husband can make restitution, perform community service, home arrest, and some sort of counseling or rehabilitation program. Same goes for the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of nonviolent offenders in America. None of those things is a real punishment that would be felt at all. What restitution would actually affect them? It would take multiple millions before that family even felt a financial impact so restitution is likely worthless. Counseling and rehabilitation? For what? Did she bribe admissions officials because she is bipolar? Home arrest? I suggest googling Lori Loughlin home to see why that is not likely to be a real punishment. As for community service, in most places I am familiar with, its largely a joke, especially for those connected. They do some volunteering at their church etc. Whats wrong with jail time here? A punishment is suitable. Just because some people are punished unjustly doesn't make this somehow unfair.
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