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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 28, 2019 22:26:33 GMT -5
"I'm an athlete,not a model" in the thread title <-- there really should be a space after the comma. It's bugging me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 22:27:28 GMT -5
"I'm an athlete,not a model" in the thread title <-- there really should be a space after the comma. It's bugging me. Blame the forum software
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Post by Hawk Attack on Mar 28, 2019 22:43:27 GMT -5
I had no idea what this thread exactly was going to be about, but I did know based on the title it was not going to be about Alexa Strange.
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Post by Not Me on Mar 28, 2019 23:02:24 GMT -5
I had no idea what this thread exactly was going to be about, but I did know based on the title it was not going to be about Alexa Strange. I thought it was going to be about me. Oh wait, that would be “I’m neither an athlete nor a model”
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Post by XAsstCoach on Mar 29, 2019 0:24:39 GMT -5
In my case "I'm no longer an athlete,never close to being a model"...no space after the "," just to be consistent (and to annoy Wolfgang)
Didn't FIVA want the women players to wear thongs for beach vb years ago? Or was it the wife of the FIVA Pres that said women vb needs to wear sexier uniform? Something that got everyone riled up.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Mar 29, 2019 6:13:50 GMT -5
I doubt that coaches are taking any of that into account when they recruit players. They just want to win. Sure, but with regards to volleyball (the article covers other sports as well) it's more like parents hesitate to allow their daughter to play club volleyball. Plus guys not wanting to become volleyball fans cause they don't want to be seen as "creeps". Male VB fans do indeed catch a lot of sideways looks. Parents will always be protective of their children, meaning some won't let their daughters play sports in tight shorts, while the ones that do will often go out of their way to make sure that the guys who go to their games are made to feel uncomfortable. That's just the way that society works.
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Post by huskerjen on Mar 29, 2019 7:42:58 GMT -5
I guess it depends the age level. They could always transition indoor uniforms to leggings, but pretty much every college player (or former college player) I know would prefer to keep things as they are. They will tell you privately that as long as it doesn't lead to creepy behavior, simply being objectified as a sex symbol is not offensive to them.
I think it's more of an issue for younger age groups who are still developing their sense of self, sexuality, and related dynamics.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 7:52:29 GMT -5
Male VB fans do indeed catch a lot of sideways looks. ...often go out of their way to make sure that the guys who go to their games are made to feel uncomfortable. Do they? Maybe at the club/high school level, but I don't think I've seen this at the college/university level.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 7:53:13 GMT -5
They will tell you privately that as long as it doesn't lead to creepy behavior, simply being objectified as a sex symbol is not offensive to them. "Creepy behavior"? Like what?
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Mar 29, 2019 8:05:16 GMT -5
Male VB fans do indeed catch a lot of sideways looks. ...often go out of their way to make sure that the guys who go to their games are made to feel uncomfortable. Do they? Maybe at the club/high school level, but I don't think I've seen this at the college/university level. Not D1 really, but a lot of the lower level schools don't draw much of a crowd beyond friends and family.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 8:14:42 GMT -5
Do they? Maybe at the club/high school level, but I don't think I've seen this at the college/university level. Not D1 really, but a lot of the lower level schools don't draw much of a crowd beyond friends and family. True, but I've never witnessed this. How are guys made to feel uncomfortable, beside "sideways looks"?
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Mar 29, 2019 8:21:55 GMT -5
Not D1 really, but a lot of the lower level schools don't draw much of a crowd beyond friends and family. True, but I've never witnessed this. How are guys made to feel uncomfortable, beside "sideways looks"? That's about the extent of it. Not really that big of a deal.
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Post by huskerjen on Mar 29, 2019 8:35:01 GMT -5
They will tell you privately that as long as it doesn't lead to creepy behavior, simply being objectified as a sex symbol is not offensive to them. "Creepy behavior"? Like what? Forgoing the obvious (i.e. stalking or assault), it'd be nice if heckling during matches was kept above board. Fine: "Nebraska sucks!" Not fine: "Kenzie, nice ass!"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 8:50:12 GMT -5
"Creepy behavior"? Like what? Forgoing the obvious (i.e. stalking or assault), it'd be nice if heckling during matches was kept above board. Fine: "Nebraska sucks!" Not fine: "Kenzie, nice ass!" I'm sure it happens. As an example: Gamecocks Get Education on Personal SafetyBut I haven't heard much with regards to volleyball specifically, unless you count Facebook stalking (which isn't a bad thing IMO).
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 29, 2019 8:52:20 GMT -5
Don't get me started on beach volleyball and the bikinis... But it is rather sad hear that, I mean would one say the same for female fans of the NBA? Or MLB? Funny thing is, when I visited Brazil and Italy and ask the locals about their volleyball scene, they do not really see volleyball as a sport defined by gender (i.e. girl's sport), or at least not as strongly defined by it as in the US. Maybe that has something to do with the fact that both their male NTs have strong performance and have won Olympic medals. But then so have the US, yet here it's very much seen as a "girl's sport". I think here in the US there`s not many boys playing volleyball because volleyball is simply a sport that does not pay much. So they easily go into football and basketball...of course besides the popularity. Just like in Brazil and Italy boys dream of becoming a soccer player. Fame and $$$....They won`t get that (much) with volleyball. But if you are 6'8 let`s say soccer won`t be good for you, so volleyball and basketball are next on the list. I remember one time reading something that Micah Christenson tried and wanted to be a basketball player but he realized he would not have much a chance in making it big, but volleyball would be a more realistic option. I agree mostly, although a point I wish to differ between Brazil or Italy and the US is that, at least in the case of Brazil, according to coach Ze Roberto himself, soccer is more than a mere sport in Brazil, it is religion, a faith that commands loyalty and occupies a pride of place in one's heart for countless millions in that country. Thus volleyball, according to this cheeky analysis, would indeed be the most popular sport in Brazil. On a more straightforward note, Brazil is the second most popular sport in Brazil, yeah there is a big gap between the top spot of soccer and second place volleyball, but it is still more popular for the men's game compared to the US, with an actual men's volleyball pro league in the country vs none in the US. That alone makes a big difference.
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