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Post by deohge on Apr 18, 2019 14:17:29 GMT -5
Doesn’t Italian league require at least 3 Italian players in the starting line-up? Yes but Brakocevic will be counted as Italian since she married an Italian,so she has the Italian citizenship Marry a Italian and get Italian citizenship. Interesting.
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Post by matte on Apr 19, 2019 7:20:55 GMT -5
Ivolleymagazine says that Poulter will stay in Chieri.
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Post by huskerjen on Apr 19, 2019 8:03:45 GMT -5
firenze is a good choice for foecke. she needs to be a starter and going to a stacked team may harm her development if won't play as starter. Agree. I think it would be best for development if our young/future NT players went to mid/low level teams in the strongest leagues. Solidify starting spots against the best competition. I don't like when they go to strong teams and sit. Sure, they get good competition in practice, but it's not the same. Obviously, there are other considerations like money and comfort.
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Post by Reach on Apr 19, 2019 8:13:52 GMT -5
firenze is a good choice for foecke. she needs to be a starter and going to a stacked team may harm her development if won't play as starter. Agree. I think it would be best for development if our young/future NT players went to mid/low level teams in the strongest leagues. Solidify starting spots against the best competition. I don't like when they go to strong teams and sit. Sure, they get good competition in practice, but it's not the same. Obviously, there are other considerations like money and comfort. By far my favorite large city in Italy is Florence. A lot of Italy is boarder line 3rd world country, Good choice.
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Post by ericleo on Apr 19, 2019 12:06:25 GMT -5
Ivolleymagazine says that Poulter will stay in Chieri. Saw that too. But I wonder how many teams will there be in Serie A1 next season? If Chieri goes to A2, I don't want Poulter to stay, but if Chieri remains its A1 spot, that would be like 14 teams?? Then the number of games that a team has to play would be a torture for players in those top teams.
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Post by ToddyJ on Apr 19, 2019 15:55:45 GMT -5
Ivolleymagazine says that Poulter will stay in Chieri. Saw that too. But I wonder how many teams will there be in Serie A1 next season? If Chieri goes to A2, I don't want Poulter to stay, but if Chieri remains its A1 spot, that would be like 14 teams?? Then the number of games that a team has to play would be a torture for players in those top teams. Is relegation not automatic? As I understand it both Filottrano and Chieri would be relegated to A2. Do they have a choice or do they play out to see who goes and who stays?
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Post by matte on Apr 19, 2019 16:43:26 GMT -5
Ivolleymagazine says that Poulter will stay in Chieri. Saw that too. But I wonder how many teams will there be in Serie A1 next season? If Chieri goes to A2, I don't want Poulter to stay, but if Chieri remains its A1 spot, that would be like 14 teams?? Then the number of games that a team has to play would be a torture for players in those top teams. According to my sources,Chieri will stay in A1 next season, so there will be 14 teams likely. I find it crazy as well,especially because it's the season before the Olympics -.-
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Post by jay on Apr 19, 2019 16:59:33 GMT -5
I'm wondering if the VNL will have an abbreviated Olympic year season and then return to full schedule the next year. It looks like the Club World Series is the loser in all of this and becomes just a showcase with little relevence when played a full summer after Club season.
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Post by Millennium on Apr 19, 2019 19:47:39 GMT -5
Agree. I think it would be best for development if our young/future NT players went to mid/low level teams in the strongest leagues. Solidify starting spots against the best competition. I don't like when they go to strong teams and sit. Sure, they get good competition in practice, but it's not the same. Obviously, there are other considerations like money and comfort. By far my favorite large city in Italy is Florence. A lot of Italy is boarder line 3rd world country, Good choice. Borderline 3rd world? You're joking, right? I'll give you this much, a lot of the non-highway roads are horrible and their drivers are even worse.
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Post by Reach on Apr 19, 2019 19:54:45 GMT -5
By far my favorite large city in Italy is Florence. A lot of Italy is boarder line 3rd world country, Good choice. Borderline 3rd world? You're joking, right? I'll give you this much, a lot of the non-highway roads are horrible and their drivers are even worse. I'm not. I've spent a lot of time in Italy and the rest of Europe. Italy is a mess, especially in the south. Parts of northern Italy are decent but they really lack behind many countries in the EU. The country has been romanticized to death and overrun by tourist trap after tourist trap.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 19, 2019 23:11:55 GMT -5
Borderline 3rd world? You're joking, right? I'll give you this much, a lot of the non-highway roads are horrible and their drivers are even worse. I'm not. I've spent a lot of time in Italy and the rest of Europe. Italy is a mess, especially in the south. Parts of northern Italy are decent but they really lack behind many countries in the EU. The country has been romanticized to death and overrun by tourist trap after tourist trap. There is noticeable drop in living standard, average income and standard of infrastructure and government service once you go south of Rome. Italians themselves have debated the reason for this north-south divide. The biggest, technologically more advanced and most well-known Italian companies are mostly based in the North or Rome. Go to Milan, Turin or Bologna in the north and they are, for the most part, rich, developed and thriving cities, but go to Sicily and anywhere in the South and you see a rather different picture. The poverty rate in the south of the country rivals almost that of Romania, a much less developed country that has for decades been oppressed by a communist dictatorship. The (negative) economic growth rate in the South was even worse than Greece, which in recent years have suffered from a economic depression. A lot of reasons has been provided, how Southern Italy missed much of the industrial revolution and later the transition to service-based economy. How the culture in the south do not encourage entrepreneurship, how generations of children in the south are told to follow in the footsteps of their parents rather than seek out fresh pastures on their own. And since the legitimate economy do not seem to provide opportunities, the illegal underground one appears, that may be one reason, along with strong clan ties, why the organized crime groups like the Mafia or 'Ndrangheta emerged first in the south. I suppose there are exceptions, like Naples, which has a large economy and also is a tourist hotspot. But even so, a tourist would see a noticable contrast with the chaotic, trash-filled and run-down Naples, where poverty is more apparent and in-your-face compared to the more sophisticated and relatively more well-ordered Milan.
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Post by Reach on Apr 20, 2019 6:11:10 GMT -5
I'm not. I've spent a lot of time in Italy and the rest of Europe. Italy is a mess, especially in the south. Parts of northern Italy are decent but they really lack behind many countries in the EU. The country has been romanticized to death and overrun by tourist trap after tourist trap. There is noticeable drop in living standard, average income and standard of infrastructure and government service once you go south of Rome. Italians themselves have debated the reason for this north-south divide. The biggest, technologically more advanced and most well-known Italian companies are mostly based in the North or Rome. Go to Milan, Turin or Bologna in the north and they are, for the most part, rich, developed and thriving cities, but go to Sicily and anywhere in the South and you see a rather different picture. The poverty rate in the south of the country rivals almost that of Romania, a much less developed country that has for decades been oppressed by a communist dictatorship. The (negative) economic growth rate in the South was even worse than Greece, which in recent years have suffered from a economic depression. A lot of reasons has been provided, how Southern Italy missed much of the industrial revolution and later the transition to service-based economy. How the culture in the south do not encourage entrepreneurship, how generations of children in the south are told to follow in the footsteps of their parents rather than seek out fresh pastures on their own. And since the legitimate economy do not seem to provide opportunities, the illegal underground one appears, that may be one reason, along with strong clan ties, why the organized crime groups like the Mafia or 'Ndrangheta emerged first in the south. I suppose there are exceptions, like Naples, which has a large economy and also is a tourist hotspot. But even so, a tourist would see a noticable contrast with the chaotic, trash-filled and run-down Naples, where poverty is more apparent and in-your-face compared to the more sophisticated and relatively more well-ordered Milan. Naples is one the worst places I’ve ever been. Especially that trek between Naples and Sorrento. Florence and the other cities you mentioned in the north are considerably different.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 20, 2019 9:43:44 GMT -5
There is noticeable drop in living standard, average income and standard of infrastructure and government service once you go south of Rome. Italians themselves have debated the reason for this north-south divide. The biggest, technologically more advanced and most well-known Italian companies are mostly based in the North or Rome. Go to Milan, Turin or Bologna in the north and they are, for the most part, rich, developed and thriving cities, but go to Sicily and anywhere in the South and you see a rather different picture. The poverty rate in the south of the country rivals almost that of Romania, a much less developed country that has for decades been oppressed by a communist dictatorship. The (negative) economic growth rate in the South was even worse than Greece, which in recent years have suffered from a economic depression. A lot of reasons has been provided, how Southern Italy missed much of the industrial revolution and later the transition to service-based economy. How the culture in the south do not encourage entrepreneurship, how generations of children in the south are told to follow in the footsteps of their parents rather than seek out fresh pastures on their own. And since the legitimate economy do not seem to provide opportunities, the illegal underground one appears, that may be one reason, along with strong clan ties, why the organized crime groups like the Mafia or 'Ndrangheta emerged first in the south. I suppose there are exceptions, like Naples, which has a large economy and also is a tourist hotspot. But even so, a tourist would see a noticable contrast with the chaotic, trash-filled and run-down Naples, where poverty is more apparent and in-your-face compared to the more sophisticated and relatively more well-ordered Milan. Naples is one the worst places I’ve ever been. Especially that trek between Naples and Sorrento. Florence and the other cities you mentioned in the north are considerably different. It doesn't helped that much of Southern Italy suffers from endemic levels of corruption, not that the rest of Italy don't have corruption, but it is particularly severe in the South. The local governments for example have often turned a blind eye to mafia activities because the bureaucrats and politicians are on the payroll of these criminal groups. For a while, much of the South became a literal garbage dump, with mountains of trash overflowing onto the streets, because the criminal gangs controlled waste management and they figured they can earn more simply dumping trash on the streets. Not exactly a pleasant or hygienic sight. But the locals in Naples just seem to shrug at it all. Beats me how one can tolerate living in a filthy garbage dump but apparently they can. Education also fared poorly in the South with school desertion high and academic standards worse than some developing countries. The tragic thing is that the South doesn't have to be that way. There was a time when Naples or Sicily were prosperous and well cultured places, that changed with industrialization, and economic power shifted north. Since then, the southern half of the country remains stuck in a rut. The northern half of the country stand in stark contrast. Milan is known as the home of high fashion with world famous brands like Gucci or Dolce & Gabbana. Modena is known for being the headquarters of famous automotive manufacturers like Ferrari and Lamborghini. Ferrero Spa based in Alba is famous as the chocolate maker that produces Nutella and Ferrero. Fincantieri S.p.A in Trieste is Europe's largest shipbuilder that builds cruise ships and naval craft. Leonardo in Rome is known as a global aerospace and defense contractor. None of these big industries are based in the South. It is almost as if the country is split into two states, with a modern economy in the north and a poor and failing developing economy in the south.
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Post by Reach on Apr 20, 2019 10:12:25 GMT -5
Perfectly said. Most people think of Italy as this glamorous place but meh. I find much of the smaller northern cities to be awesome and Tuscany to be the most worthwhile experience. I have only been to Milan for 1 day but it did seem much more city like compared to the other large cities and I really like Parma Italy! It’s a true gem. I find that once I moved through some of the world class must see things that I prefer the daily life of the French or the Spanish to the Italians. To each there own. Now I’m gonna go have some French wine.
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Post by ericleo on Apr 27, 2019 11:56:25 GMT -5
So here's a summary of the most recent rumors regarding the American setters: Hancock -> Novara Lloyd -> Calsalmaggiore Carlini -> Chemik Police Poulter -> Chieri SSS and Hunter are unknown.
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