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Post by ironhammer on May 20, 2019 22:39:22 GMT -5
It would have been more interesting to have Dany remain alive but willing to accept her mistakes and at least tried to change for the better. But maybe that's too cliche too. Thought ending at the point where Daeni was killed would have been perfect. I mean she was so delusional about doing what's right for the people where she went to justified torching King's Landing, and then killed by the one last person who she wanted to count on. And the irony is that her father was killed by someone he trusted, the King's Hand Jamie Lannister. Oh, I see its available on iTunes now. Time to buy it so I can watch it without the pausing associated with streaming. That's an interesting idea. I kinda like it. But the episode went on and on afterwards and just disposing Dany like that is just awkward and does not flow well with the rest of the episode.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 22:42:20 GMT -5
That's the other thing. Where did all the magic go? Lord of Light. Resurrections. Fireproof heroes. Seems like it all stopped this season. When Drogon picked her up, I thought for sure she'd be back after some dragon magicking and wiser this time around. !!!!###$$$!!!ing Edmure and Robin useless turds.
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Post by XAsstCoach on May 20, 2019 22:55:48 GMT -5
That's an interesting idea. I kinda like it. But the episode went on and on afterwards and just disposing Dany like that is just awkward and does not flow well with the rest of the episode. Exactly! That's why I thought the rest was just garbage. A cliche just to appease...I don't know who.
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Post by mikegarrison on May 20, 2019 23:27:58 GMT -5
Would it have been better if Dani didn't destroy King's Landing, Arya kills Cersei, and Dani takes the iron throne as the heroine?
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Post by mikegarrison on May 20, 2019 23:43:32 GMT -5
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Post by vup on May 21, 2019 5:15:06 GMT -5
Would it have been better if Dani didn't destroy King's Landing, Arya kills Cersei, and Dani takes the iron throne as the heroine? It's true
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 10:57:35 GMT -5
That's the other thing. Where did all the magic go? Lord of Light. Resurrections. Fireproof heroes. Seems like it all stopped this season. Giant army of resurrected ice zombies? Grandfathered in. I meant magical twists. Seems like everything was pretty down-to-earth this season, granted it's down-to-Westeros, not earth.
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Post by huskerjen on May 21, 2019 17:30:18 GMT -5
The perfect ending would've echoed true early-season GoT darkness like the Red Wedding. Dany takes the throne, tries and executes Tyrion and Sansa for treason, torches Hot Pie in front of Arya then makes her faceshift into Meera Reed to drag Bran's sorry ass back North on a sled, keeps Jon in a cage as her sex slave nephew, and rules with an iron fist with everyone realizing her rule is more merciless than Cersei's because she has Drogon.
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Post by mln59 on May 21, 2019 18:08:31 GMT -5
The perfect ending would've echoed true early-season GoT darkness like the Red Wedding. Dany takes the throne, tries and executes Tyrion and Sansa for treason, torches Hot Pie in front of Arya then makes her faceshift into Meera Reed to drag Bran's sorry ass back North on a sled, keeps Jon in a cage as her sex slave nephew, and rules with an iron fist with everyone realizing her rule is more merciless than Cersei's because she has Drogon. i like it
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Post by mikegarrison on May 21, 2019 18:18:16 GMT -5
The perfect ending would've echoed true early-season GoT darkness like the Red Wedding. Dany takes the throne, tries and executes Tyrion and Sansa for treason, torches Hot Pie in front of Arya then makes her faceshift into Meera Reed to drag Bran's sorry ass back North on a sled, keeps Jon in a cage as her sex slave nephew, and rules with an iron fist with everyone realizing her rule is more merciless than Cersei's because she has Drogon. Sansa was not stupid enough to put herself in the hands of Dani. She saw what happened to her father. She didn't leave Winterfell until Dani was dead. However, I believe it was Sansa that Jon was thinking about when he killed Dani. Dani's little speech about how she was going to cleanse the world the same way she cleansed King's Landing made him realize that sooner rather than later she was going to order Sansa's death.
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Post by huskerjen on May 21, 2019 18:43:14 GMT -5
The perfect ending would've echoed true early-season GoT darkness like the Red Wedding. Dany takes the throne, tries and executes Tyrion and Sansa for treason, torches Hot Pie in front of Arya then makes her faceshift into Meera Reed to drag Bran's sorry ass back North on a sled, keeps Jon in a cage as her sex slave nephew, and rules with an iron fist with everyone realizing her rule is more merciless than Cersei's because she has Drogon. Sansa was not stupid enough to put herself in the hands of Dani. She saw what happened to her father. She didn't leave Winterfell until Dani was dead. However, I believe it was Sansa that Jon was thinking about when he killed Dani. Dani's little speech about how she was going to cleanse the world the same way she cleansed King's Landing made him realize that sooner rather than later she was going to order Sansa's death. She could've had Sansa apprehended and brought to King's Landing. Her forces were more formidable than the North's.
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Post by jayj79 on May 21, 2019 18:44:59 GMT -5
I know, I know, Jon Snow. He swore an oath. But the thing is, he swore that same oath earlier and ended up going back on it.... which part of the oath did he go back on?
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Post by jayj79 on May 21, 2019 18:50:00 GMT -5
and then killed by the one last person who she wanted to count on. And the irony is that her father was killed by someone he trusted, the King's Hand Jamie Lannister. Jaime was never Hand of the King. He was Kingsguard. His father, Tywin, was Hand under Aerys.
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Post by mikegarrison on May 21, 2019 19:26:09 GMT -5
I know, I know, Jon Snow. He swore an oath. But the thing is, he swore that same oath earlier and ended up going back on it.... which part of the oath did he go back on? The part where he gives up all political and family loyalties. The final straw for the mutiny in which he is stabbed came when he announced that part of the Night's Watch would be going to Winterfell to confront Ramsay Bolton. (This is from the books. Was dropped in the TV series.) Another part of the oaths is to "take no wife", but he kind of violates that one too. Later (in the TV series) he completely abandons that and becomes King of the North, but it can be argued that his death in the mutiny ended his oaths, and the resurrected Jon Snow was not subject to them.
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Post by jayj79 on May 21, 2019 21:05:54 GMT -5
which part of the oath did he go back on? The part where he gives up all political and family loyalties. The final straw for the mutiny in which he is stabbed came when he announced that part of the Night's Watch would be going to Winterfell to confront Ramsay Bolton. (This is from the books. Was dropped in the TV series.) ah yes, I had forgotten about that part. it's been so long since the last book came out that my memory has gotten fuzzy, and the timeline differences between the book and the show hasn't helped. I don't believe they were ever formally married. Then again, I'm not sure the wildlings ever do anything formally.
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