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Post by itsallrelative on Jun 21, 2019 13:29:56 GMT -5
Scholarships are one year deals for the academic year. If the scholarship was not renewed, then the player would not have a scholarship. Many schools will give a kid in that situation a scholarship from the athletic department and put them to work in the office so it (the scholarship) does not count against the team. Scholarships are not linked to the athlete's "senior" year and then carry over to the extra semester. Scholarships have been updated to be guaranteed for multiple years, so long as the SA is in good standing with the school and team. Ie, can’t cut the scholly for athletic performance reasons. I think that started in 2016. Also, I know SA do get something over the summer. Might depend if they’re enrolled in summer school, but maybe not. I thought it was acceptable to offer multiple year scholarships....not required???
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Post by MsRSV on Jun 21, 2019 16:12:36 GMT -5
Is the AD? Somethings never get old!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 21:20:03 GMT -5
Scholarships have been updated to be guaranteed for multiple years, so long as the SA is in good standing with the school and team. Ie, can’t cut the scholly for athletic performance reasons. I think that started in 2016. Also, I know SA do get something over the summer. Might depend if they’re enrolled in summer school, but maybe not. I thought it was acceptable to offer multiple year scholarships....not required??? The rule is, if they get the scholly as a freshman, it can’t be taken away for athletic performance reasons. If not, then they’re renewed one year deals.
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Post by itsallrelative on Jun 22, 2019 8:34:19 GMT -5
I thought it was acceptable to offer multiple year scholarships....not required??? The rule is, if they get the scholly as a freshman, it can’t be taken away for athletic performance reasons. If not, then they’re renewed one year deals. This is what I was thinking of: "In 2015, the NCAA Division I “Power 5” Schools implemented a rule that has the effect of “protecting” Division I student-athletes from having their athletic scholarship cancelled or not renewed for any athletics reason. Quite simply, a coach cannot take away a scholarship for poor athletic performance. Here are several facts about this rule: – This new rule was voted in by the universities of the “Power 5” conferences – the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, PAC-12, and SEC, as well as Notre Dame. This rule must be followed by these 65 universities. – Other Division I schools and conferences can choose to follow this rule, but are not required to do so. So, an athlete receiving an athletic scholarship from a university that is NOT one of the 65 mentioned here might still receive a one-year scholarship which a coach can choose not to renew for the following academic year." informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/So.....you are right for Power 5, but it is not across the board.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 9:54:16 GMT -5
The rule is, if they get the scholly as a freshman, it can’t be taken away for athletic performance reasons. If not, then they’re renewed one year deals. This is what I was thinking of: "In 2015, the NCAA Division I “Power 5” Schools implemented a rule that has the effect of “protecting” Division I student-athletes from having their athletic scholarship cancelled or not renewed for any athletics reason. Quite simply, a coach cannot take away a scholarship for poor athletic performance. Here are several facts about this rule: – This new rule was voted in by the universities of the “Power 5” conferences – the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, PAC-12, and SEC, as well as Notre Dame. This rule must be followed by these 65 universities. – Other Division I schools and conferences can choose to follow this rule, but are not required to do so. So, an athlete receiving an athletic scholarship from a university that is NOT one of the 65 mentioned here might still receive a one-year scholarship which a coach can choose not to renew for the following academic year." informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/So.....you are right for Power 5, but it is not across the board. Iowa is in the P5
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Post by PointHawks on Jun 22, 2019 11:34:15 GMT -5
She was not a foreign player, as stated earlier in this thread it is believed to be the transfer from Marquette. Disappointing that she waited until graduation to come forward to all the wrong that went in to her athletic and academic successes at Iowa. As opposed to when it was offered.. We’re Super excited to see what Vicky Brown can do with this team. She appears to be a very professional woman, obviously a talented former player. Go Hawks Then you explain to the kid you messed up and she won’t be able to be with the team for the summer months. I guess that type of hit to the ego isn’t acceptable to some. We don't know the actual circumstances, we assume that the player had the wherewithal to pay fir the apartment in her own. She may be a foreign player. If she transferred in, she was living precariously because he of the tab of the old school and must get connected seamlessly to Iowa. That three month gap might be a major problem financially. So it might not be a matter of ego.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 11:47:11 GMT -5
She was not a foreign player, as stated earlier in this thread it is believed to be the transfer from Marquette. Disappointing that she waited until graduation to come forward to all the wrong that went in to her athletic and academic successes at Iowa. As opposed to when it was offered.. We’re Super excited to see what Vicky Brown can do with this team. She appears to be a very professional woman, obviously a talented former player. Go Hawks We don't know the actual circumstances, we assume that the player had the wherewithal to pay fir the apartment in her own. She may be a foreign player. If she transferred in, she was living precariously because he of the tab of the old school and must get connected seamlessly to Iowa. That three month gap might be a major problem financially. So it might not be a matter of ego. I believe the player who reported it and the player who received it are different people.
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Post by hawkfan on Jun 22, 2019 11:52:14 GMT -5
She was not a foreign player, as stated earlier in this thread it is believed to be the transfer from Marquette. Disappointing that she waited until graduation to come forward to all the wrong that went in to her athletic and academic successes at Iowa. As opposed to when it was offered.. We’re Super excited to see what Vicky Brown can do with this team. She appears to be a very professional woman, obviously a talented former player. Go Hawks We don't know the actual circumstances, we assume that the player had the wherewithal to pay fir the apartment in her own. She may be a foreign player. If she transferred in, she was living precariously because he of the tab of the old school and must get connected seamlessly to Iowa. That three month gap might be a major problem financially. So it might not be a matter of ego. I ask this with honestly no inside knowledge of the situation, but wouldn't it be possible that this could have surfaced through a former SA other than the beneficiary of the assistance? Or as referenced earlier in the thread, perhaps could have surfaced in an "exit interview" without knowledge there had even been wrongdoing and it was "caught" that way and then appropriately reported? Completely understand/respect your comments and thoughts...I really do...guess where I am going here is that feel we should be careful to not make assumptions about attributing actions or motives to anyone in particular.
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Post by jayj79 on Jun 22, 2019 12:02:39 GMT -5
I blame those that offered the improper benefits, and not those that received the improper benefits nor those that reported the impropriety.
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Post by hammer on Jun 22, 2019 12:11:57 GMT -5
The rule is, if they get the scholly as a freshman, it can’t be taken away for athletic performance reasons. If not, then they’re renewed one year deals. This is what I was thinking of: "In 2015, the NCAA Division I “Power 5” Schools implemented a rule that has the effect of “protecting” Division I student-athletes from having their athletic scholarship cancelled or not renewed for any athletics reason. Quite simply, a coach cannot take away a scholarship for poor athletic performance. Here are several facts about this rule: – This new rule was voted in by the universities of the “Power 5” conferences – the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, PAC-12, and SEC, as well as Notre Dame. This rule must be followed by these 65 universities. – Other Division I schools and conferences can choose to follow this rule, but are not required to do so. So, an athlete receiving an athletic scholarship from a university that is NOT one of the 65 mentioned here might still receive a one-year scholarship which a coach can choose not to renew for the following academic year." informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/So.....you are right for Power 5, but it is not across the board. There is coach in the B1G who hates this rule. He has found ways to work around it though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 13:06:03 GMT -5
This is what I was thinking of: "In 2015, the NCAA Division I “Power 5” Schools implemented a rule that has the effect of “protecting” Division I student-athletes from having their athletic scholarship cancelled or not renewed for any athletics reason. Quite simply, a coach cannot take away a scholarship for poor athletic performance. Here are several facts about this rule: – This new rule was voted in by the universities of the “Power 5” conferences – the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, PAC-12, and SEC, as well as Notre Dame. This rule must be followed by these 65 universities. – Other Division I schools and conferences can choose to follow this rule, but are not required to do so. So, an athlete receiving an athletic scholarship from a university that is NOT one of the 65 mentioned here might still receive a one-year scholarship which a coach can choose not to renew for the following academic year." informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/So.....you are right for Power 5, but it is not across the board. There is coach in the B1G who hates this rule. He has found ways to work around it though. Well it’s not that hard. You simply never give a scholarship to a freshman. Then it reverts to one year renewals, which can be withdrawn for athletic performance. And that’s how it works for transfers as well, regardless if they had a scholarship at their old school as a freshman.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 13:07:57 GMT -5
She was not a foreign player, as stated earlier in this thread it is believed to be the transfer from Marquette. Disappointing that she waited until graduation to come forward to all the wrong that went in to her athletic and academic successes at Iowa. As opposed to when it was offered.. We’re Super excited to see what Vicky Brown can do with this team. She appears to be a very professional woman, obviously a talented former player. Go Hawks I believe the player who reported it and the player who received it are different people. I believe that is correct, based on the earlier statements. And I wonder if the other SA maybe had a slip-up, or didn’t even realize it was improper, rather than being a whistleblower. Because if it was the latter, why wait?
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Post by itsallrelative on Jun 22, 2019 16:33:30 GMT -5
There is coach in the B1G who hates this rule. He has found ways to work around it though. Well it’s not that hard. You simply never give a scholarship to a freshman. Then it reverts to one year renewals, which can be withdrawn for athletic performance. And that’s how it works for transfers as well, regardless if they had a scholarship at their old school as a freshman. Good luck recruiting things with THAT philosophy...
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Post by Millennium on Jun 22, 2019 17:18:16 GMT -5
Someone needs to change this thread title.
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Post by hammer on Jun 22, 2019 18:31:44 GMT -5
Someone needs to change this thread title. How about Just Another OFF Topic Thread
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