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Post by n00b on Jun 12, 2019 12:49:57 GMT -5
I'm far from an informed expert to provide this type of advice, but I'll give my laymen thoughts as the father of two daughters who went to a major public university.
Unless the privacy laws legally prohibit this, I wonder if her parents were informed of the situation and involved in the decision making. Not sure if I recommend this or not because they could easily be as much of a hindrance as help. Eh. She was 23 when the incident happened and 24 or 25 when this was discovered by the university. I think that's well past the age where parents should be brought in. [/p]
[/quote] While I don't exactly know the geography of UW's campus, this happened in a truck parked "behind the baseball fields". Sounds like campus. You may be right on this one. I just don't know what creates a fireable cause. Generally, an anonymous complaint by somebody who has stated that she doesn't want to go forward with the complaint. This case obviously included a further investigation that concluded that the assault almost certainly did occur. I don't know enough about HR policies to know that the norm is here.
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Post by bigfan on Jun 12, 2019 12:54:54 GMT -5
This is not a good look for UW. The current players and coaching staff now have to deal with this with questions from their families and friends. Did you know about this? did you know this man? Were you warned or given a heads up about this administrator? it goes on and on. The student newspaper and support groups on campus will be raising voices and concerns.
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Post by salsolomon on Jun 12, 2019 12:59:13 GMT -5
I've been trained as a Title IX investigator (sex and gender-based crimes fall under Title IX) and Office of Civil Rights has dramatically changed it's guidelines for what colleges need to do to be in compliance when an incident like this is reported. (re-certification training just last month). Under the proposed new guidelines put forth by the current Trump administration, colleges will be required to provide a hearing in which the accused is able to cross examine the accuser. This cross examination may be done by an "adviser" who can be an attorney. If the accused can't afford a lawyer, the college may be required to provide one. These new guidelines are not in force yet, as the law requires a comment period before proposed regulations go into effect, but it is clear that the intent is to chill reporting of these incidents. Here's a little about that from the Association of Title IX Administrators: cdn.atixa.org/website-media/o_atixa/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/18120439/ATIXA-Position-Statement_Cross-Examination-final.pdf
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Post by n00b on Jun 12, 2019 13:03:03 GMT -5
And, it is not an anonymous complaint. The victim is known. From the article: In September 2017, the athletic department’s sports psychologist, Cassie Pasquariello, arranged for Strickland to speak anonymously to the University Complaint Investigation and Resolution Office (UCIRO), which handles discrimination complaints against employees.They drafted a complaint and asked Strickland if she wanted to proceed. She declined. Of note, from the Washington UCIRO website:
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Post by tomclen on Jun 12, 2019 13:06:57 GMT -5
Looks like Mr. Shick had a Twitter account, but it's been closed. Also not finding a LinkedIn account.
(Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 12, 2019 13:08:56 GMT -5
And, it is not an anonymous complaint. The victim is known. From the article: In September 2017, the athletic department’s sports psychologist, Cassie Pasquariello, arranged for Strickland to speak anonymously to the University Complaint Investigation and Resolution Office (UCIRO), which handles discrimination complaints against employees.They drafted a complaint and asked Strickland if she wanted to proceed. She declined. Of note, from the Washington UCIRO website: I think "shielded" or "anonomyzed" is a better term to describe her identity here.
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Post by n00b on Jun 12, 2019 13:09:22 GMT -5
I've been trained as a Title IX investigator (sex and gender-based crimes fall under Title IX) and Office of Civil Rights has dramatically changed it's guidelines for what colleges need to do to be in compliance when an incident like this is reported. (re-certification training just last month). Under the proposed new guidelines put forth by the current Trump administration, colleges will be required to provide a hearing in which the accused is able to cross examine the accuser. This cross examination may be done by an "adviser" who can be an attorney. If the accused can't afford a lawyer, the college may be required to provide one. These new guidelines are not in force yet, as the law requires a comment period before proposed regulations go into effect, but it is clear that the intent is to chill reporting of these incidents. Here's a little about that from the Association of Title IX Administrators: cdn.atixa.org/website-media/o_atixa/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/18120439/ATIXA-Position-Statement_Cross-Examination-final.pdfGood info. However, in this case there wasn't actually a report, right? Strickland met with the UCIRO investigators but ultimately declined to file an individual complaint.
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Post by stevehorn on Jun 12, 2019 13:12:11 GMT -5
I've been trained as a Title IX investigator (sex and gender-based crimes fall under Title IX) and Office of Civil Rights has dramatically changed it's guidelines for what colleges need to do to be in compliance when an incident like this is reported. (re-certification training just last month). Under the proposed new guidelines put forth by the current Trump administration, colleges will be required to provide a hearing in which the accused is able to cross examine the accuser. This cross examination may be done by an "adviser" who can be an attorney. If the accused can't afford a lawyer, the college may be required to provide one. These new guidelines are not in force yet, as the law requires a comment period before proposed regulations go into effect, but it is clear that the intent is to chill reporting of these incidents. Here's a little about that from the Association of Title IX Administrators: cdn.atixa.org/website-media/o_atixa/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/18120439/ATIXA-Position-Statement_Cross-Examination-final.pdf
One problem I have is that sexual assaults are investigated by the schools. These are crimes in every jurisdiction and I believe should be investigated by the local authorities, not universities.
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Post by tomclen on Jun 12, 2019 13:15:04 GMT -5
Here's an old profile from the website of the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics:
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 12, 2019 13:18:17 GMT -5
I've been trained as a Title IX investigator (sex and gender-based crimes fall under Title IX) and Office of Civil Rights has dramatically changed it's guidelines for what colleges need to do to be in compliance when an incident like this is reported. (re-certification training just last month). Under the proposed new guidelines put forth by the current Trump administration, colleges will be required to provide a hearing in which the accused is able to cross examine the accuser. This cross examination may be done by an "adviser" who can be an attorney. If the accused can't afford a lawyer, the college may be required to provide one. These new guidelines are not in force yet, as the law requires a comment period before proposed regulations go into effect, but it is clear that the intent is to chill reporting of these incidents. Here's a little about that from the Association of Title IX Administrators: cdn.atixa.org/website-media/o_atixa/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/18120439/ATIXA-Position-Statement_Cross-Examination-final.pdf
One problem I have is that sexual assaults are investigated by the schools. These are crimes in every jurisdiction and I believe should be investigated by the local authorities, not universities.
If a police report is filed and charges pressed, it's investigated by the police. The Title IX process is not a criminal investigation. It's more like a civil law suit. both processes can go on simultaneously.
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Post by stevehorn on Jun 12, 2019 13:28:53 GMT -5
One problem I have is that sexual assaults are investigated by the schools. These are crimes in every jurisdiction and I believe should be investigated by the local authorities, not universities.
If a police report is filed and charges pressed, it's investigated by the police. The Title IX process is not a criminal investigation. It's more like a civil law suit. both processes can go on simultaneously. What is being exposed more and more these days is that the vast majority of these cases were never reported to the local authorities and thus no criminal investigation. Also the Title IX "investigation" process was bastardized at a number of schools with the intent of keeping these "incidents" within the walls of the school.
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Post by salsolomon on Jun 12, 2019 13:33:12 GMT -5
Good info. However, in this case there wasn't actually a report, right? Strickland met with the UCIRO investigators but ultimately declined to file an individual complaint. When a student tells someone at the college who is a "responsible employee" the college is considered to be on notice and is required by Title IX to take action to come up with a "prompt and effective remedy." Colleges get to designate who is a "responsible employee" but those investigators would 100% be within that category. Once that notification happens, the college needs to take action, regardless of whether any formal report was filed.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 12, 2019 13:44:40 GMT -5
Security on campus should be limited to parking tickets and maybe some basic college level infractions Why? Particularly in a public school, the school police officers are public employees. They usually have the full rights and responsibilities of any other public police officers.
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Post by preschooler on Jun 12, 2019 13:54:02 GMT -5
I am very sorry Cassie was subjected to this. Thanks for letting your story come to light now.
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Post by dawgball on Jun 12, 2019 13:56:52 GMT -5
I find this paragraph problematic. The victim should have the power to control how this is handled. She didn't (at the time at least) want a drawn-out, public issue made of this so Strickland was the one who requested it not be reported to the police. Then the very next sentence claims that universities do this to cover up the situation? It's to protect the victims. If victims know that reporting this act to University officials means that this will end up in the legal system (and in the newspaper), then victims will report less frequently. This is a horrible situation, but my reading of that article doesn't make me think that Washington did anything wrong. Strickland never filed an actual report and they STILL got rid of the guy. My biggest issue is with sending Strickland to a booze-filled alumni event while she was still an athlete at the University. (Issue with the university sending her, not with her going if invited) Cassie was in graduate school and had completed her volleyball career when this incident occured.
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