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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 12, 2019 16:09:33 GMT -5
I have no reason to doubt Strickland's claims. I recognize I'm likely in the minority, but I have doubts about the people claiming victimhood that you've selected to show. Why bring up their cases? Because they paid a large public price for bringing accusations that some people dismiss the validity of. That's exactly why all victims are reluctant to speak up. To be blunt, you are part of the problem.
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Post by gnu2vball on Jun 12, 2019 16:12:45 GMT -5
I have no reason to doubt Strickland's claims. I recognize I'm likely in the minority, but I have doubts about the people claiming victimhood that you've selected to show. Why bring up their cases? Because they paid a large public price for bringing accusations that some people dismiss the validity of. That's exactly why all victims are reluctant to speak up. To be blunt, you are part of the problem. So, I'm expected to believe, uncritically, all accusations of sexual misbehavior/assault? OK. I'll try to cope with the guilt.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 12, 2019 16:18:11 GMT -5
That's problematical. Do people on such a list have any right to due process to get removed from it? Remember all the problems that the US "No Fly List" has had in terms of people not knowing they were on the list, not knowing why they were on the list, not being able to get off the list, being misidentified as someone else with the same or similar name, etc. IMO if an institution has investigated an allegation of this nature that they have found “credible” and that individual is as a result is deemed by that institution to be non re hirable is a pretty big red flag even if the victim declined to prosecute. There should be some type of mandatory disclosure to future employers to ask some questions at least. The thing is, UW has a very wide latitude for placing people on an internal list for "no rehire". Maybe they didn't shower enough. Maybe they stole too many office supplies. Maybe they were sexual predators. Because it is a private list, they can put anybody they want on it, for almost any reason (can't be for race, sexual preference, etc.). But if you make this list public, then it raises lots of questions about due process and the UW has to be a lot more careful about who they put on such a list.
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Post by preschooler on Jun 12, 2019 16:29:18 GMT -5
Making it public would seem to work towards less latitude
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Post by preschooler on Jun 12, 2019 16:46:18 GMT -5
We have stories again and again about this as Cassie said her story is not unique. Whenever an institution rises to a level of investigating and finding credible they have a moral obligation. If we continue this culture of silence we will never make progress.
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Post by n00b on Jun 12, 2019 16:53:55 GMT -5
We have stories again and again about this as Cassie said her story is not unique. Whenever an institution rises to a level of investigating and finding credible they have a moral obligation. If we continue this culture of silence we will never make progress. Again, I must point out that if the university acts against the wishes of the victim, the result will be that victims stop going to the university for support. That is not what we want.
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Post by fetchin on Jun 12, 2019 17:11:37 GMT -5
Cassie looks like she could beat up that dweeb/pervert pretty easily, i hope she did. Glad she came forward to out him.
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Post by dawgball on Jun 12, 2019 18:09:58 GMT -5
Cassie was in graduate school and had completed her volleyball career when this incident occured. Gotcha. It just said 'Spring 2017' and according to the online roster, she DID play on the beach team that spring. Yes, but the incident occurred in May and the beach season was over in April.
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Post by preschooler on Jun 12, 2019 18:13:10 GMT -5
We have stories again and again about this as Cassie said her story is not unique. Whenever an institution rises to a level of investigating and finding credible they have a moral obligation. If we continue this culture of silence we will never make progress. Again, I must point out that if the university acts against the wishes of the victim, the result will be that victims stop going to the university for support. That is not what we want. The university’s did not act against the wishes of the victim but the did make a judgement that allegation was credible and he was never to be employed by them again. Would could not there be an NCAA regulation for an obligation to disclose to any future employment inquiries of credible allegations with victims name “redacted” ?
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Post by gatorbob on Jun 12, 2019 18:41:18 GMT -5
Has there been or will there be a Title IX investigation in this case?
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Post by n00b on Jun 12, 2019 18:49:36 GMT -5
Again, I must point out that if the university acts against the wishes of the victim, the result will be that victims stop going to the university for support. That is not what we want. The university’s did not act against the wishes of the victim but the did make a judgement that allegation was credible and he was never to be employed by them again. Would could not there be an NCAA regulation for an obligation to disclose to any future employment inquiries of credible allegations with victims name “redacted” ? I think this should have absolutely nothing to do with the NCAA. Yes, it's relevant to us because it affects a volleyball player but this is a university employee sexually assaulting a student. It should be a University and/or legal matter in my opinion.
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Post by n00b on Jun 12, 2019 18:55:01 GMT -5
Has there been or will there be a Title IX investigation in this case? I believe the investigation report included in the Times article is the Title IX investigation.
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Post by preschooler on Jun 12, 2019 18:55:20 GMT -5
I think that the NCAA could certainly could lead on this issue in a much better way than they have.
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Post by preschooler on Jun 12, 2019 18:56:37 GMT -5
And yes it should rise above protecting more than just athletes
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Post by bigfan on Jun 12, 2019 19:36:21 GMT -5
UW Found A Volleyball Star's Sexual Assault Allegation "Extremely Credible" But Let The Accused Official Leave Without Consequence She told the Times she felt pressured to sign the settlement, which she did without consulting a lawyer, in order to put the ordeal behind her and help herself focus on her professional volleyball career abroad.deadspin.com/uw-found-a-volleyball-stars-sexual-assault-allegation-18354623
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