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Post by speegs13 on Jun 12, 2019 15:33:46 GMT -5
Schedule for the World Cup has been released: www.fivb.com/en/about/news/2019-fivb-world-cup-match-schedule-confirmed?id=82195Participating teams (12): Japan, Serbia, China, USA, Brazil, Russia, Netherlands, South Korea, Dominican Republic, Argentina, Cameroon, Kenya USA Schedule Hamamatsu9/14 vs. Kenya 9/15 vs. Serbia 9/16 vs. Argentina 9/18 vs. Netherlands 9/19 vs. Brazil Sapporo9/22 vs. Japan 9/23 vs. China 9/24 vs. Dominican Republic Osaka9/27 vs. Russia 9/28 vs. Cameroon 9/29 vs. Korea
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Post by n00b on Jun 12, 2019 15:48:55 GMT -5
This is the first time that this event doesn't have Olympic Qualifying ramifications. Will countries still be sending their A teams?
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Post by speegs13 on Jun 12, 2019 15:55:29 GMT -5
This is the first time that this event doesn't have Olympic Qualifying ramifications. Will countries still be sending their A teams? European teams less likely - the European Championships concludes a couple of days before the World Cup starts. Everyone else probably will. I've read that they're allowing 24 players to travel to the World Cup this year, rather than the usual 14 (you still only suit up 14 players). No clue if this has been confirmed, but I think they did it as an incentive for the European teams to send their star players.
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Post by ToddyJ on Jun 12, 2019 16:07:46 GMT -5
This is the first time that this event doesn't have Olympic Qualifying ramifications. Will countries still be sending their A teams? Netherlands will want to. They did not participate in the 2015 WC. If they do well the could climb all the way to 3rd in the world especially if they place 3rd or higher. For Serbia the furthest they could fall would be 4th if they send a B squad and placed in the middle of the table. Not ideal for them but not the end of the world. Not sure about Russia. They seem to be in triage mode and are changing coaches every year. No one seems to want the job.
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Post by rodbcantu on Jun 15, 2019 8:39:23 GMT -5
So this is probably like the 3rd biggest tournament after the olympics and the world championships? I would send our A team so that they can get more reps in especially for the Olympics.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 9:03:42 GMT -5
No Olympic-qualifying implications, but this event is worth 100 points for world rankings.
There was talk of a change to the ranking formula, but I don't know if it happened.
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Post by trojansc on Jun 15, 2019 17:32:32 GMT -5
No Olympic-qualifying implications, but this event is worth 100 points for world rankings. There was talk of a change to the ranking formula, but I don't know if it happened. The FIVB rankings are some of the worst ever. And I thought I hated RPI ......... South Korea AND Argentina are above Turkey Cameroon, Kenya, Cuba, and Kazakhstan are all above Poland..
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 15, 2019 17:50:19 GMT -5
Do Teams care so much about World Rankings?
What impact besides bragging rights does it have?
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Post by speegs13 on Jun 15, 2019 17:53:17 GMT -5
Do Teams care so much about World Rankings? What impact besides bragging rights does it have? Seeding purposes for the World Championships and Olympics. What pool you start out in can be a huge advantage/disadvantage
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 15, 2019 18:07:20 GMT -5
Do Teams care so much about World Rankings? What impact besides bragging rights does it have? The rankings determine match-ups at the major tournaments. In Rio, Brazil was #1 as Host, so we ended up matched up against Serbia in the semi-finals. The serpentine system for two pools in the cross-over round looks like this: Pool 1: 1, 4, 5, 8 Pool 2: 2, 3, 6, 7 Japan will be the # 1 seed as World Cup Host, and everyone will drop down one accordingly.
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Post by n00b on Jun 15, 2019 18:51:32 GMT -5
Do Teams care so much about World Rankings? What impact besides bragging rights does it have? The rankings determine match-ups at the major tournaments. In Rio, Brazil was #1 as Host, so we ended up matched up against Serbia in the semi-finals. The serpentine system for two pools in the cross-over round looks like this: Pool 1: 1, 4, 5, 8 Pool 2: 2, 3, 6, 7 Japan will be the # 1 seed as World Cup Host, and everyone will drop down one accordingly. We played Serbia in the semis because they came in THIRD in the opening pool. Seeding matters very little at the Olympics. No matter where they are seeded, the two best teams don't meet until the finals (not counting upsets, which screw things up even if the seeding is perfect).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 19:01:08 GMT -5
my sleep schedule is dying just thinking of this
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 15, 2019 19:13:59 GMT -5
The rankings determine match-ups at the major tournaments. In Rio, Brazil was #1 as Host, so we ended up matched up against Serbia in the semi-finals. The serpentine system for two pools in the cross-over round looks like this: Pool 1: 1, 4, 5, 8 Pool 2: 2, 3, 6, 7 Japan will be the # 1 seed as World Cup Host, and everyone will drop down one accordingly. We played Serbia in the semis because they came in THIRD in the opening pool. Seeding matters very little at the Olympics. No matter where they are seeded, the two best teams don't meet until the finals (not counting upsets, which screw things up even if the seeding is perfect). Taking a look back at the brackets, we were in the same pool as Netherlands, Serbia, and China. Were were ranked #1 and Serbia ranked #6, so we ended up in the same pool as Serbia because Brazil bumped us. Without the serpentine seeding and Host rule, we would have been in different pools. However, every team in our pool beat every other team in the other pool (Brazil, Russia, South Korea and Japan) in the cross-over matches, so we ended up playing Serbia not simply because they finished 3rd in the pool, but because they beat the 2 seed in the other pool.
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Post by trojansc on Jun 15, 2019 19:15:05 GMT -5
Do Teams care so much about World Rankings? What impact besides bragging rights does it have? It matters hugely for European teams. Turkey’s chances at the qualifying for Tokyo 2020 Olympics are much worse because they have to play China, and if they don’t win they battle the rest of Europe for only ONE spot. 1 of : Netherlands, Italy, or Turkey will most likely NOT be in Tokyo, and that’s a shame....
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Post by trojansc on Jun 15, 2019 20:39:15 GMT -5
Seeding matters very little at the Olympics. Completely disagree. It meant the world to Italy. You think Italy wouldn’t have been in the Quarterfinals in the other pool? No way. Nobody in that pool made the Semifinals. Sure, Italy might not have won their QF match even if they made it, but they played USA and Serbia tight in the pool play matches.
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