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Post by vinnielopes on Sept 3, 2019 9:31:19 GMT -5
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Post by vballfreak808 on Sept 3, 2019 9:54:00 GMT -5
That's big! Slowly but surely making a big impact to the sport. Hopefully this means the NCAA Tournament will expand to a legit eight teams and have four opening round matches rather than two play-ins and doesn't take away any at-large bids.
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Post by MVBFAN on Sept 3, 2019 10:26:19 GMT -5
Amazing! I can’t believe that! 6 new programs AT least for the 2021 Season
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Post by alhorford90 on Sept 3, 2019 11:39:27 GMT -5
Very happy. This is amazing.
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Post by Confucius on Sept 3, 2019 12:14:22 GMT -5
Not to be the negative guy here, but how much will this really help? It expands a growing list of D2 schools for sure... However, this is just bringing us closer to D2 splitting off because they'll have enough teams to form their own Division Championship. Which eventually means that D1 goes back to having a Molten Championship rather than an NCAA one and many programs are not going to create a program that won't be competing for an NCAA Championship.
MotorMVB needs to start making a push with schools in conferences that don't have football like the ASUN, MAAC, and Big East. Stop going for the Power 5 schools that want everything paid for and done for them.
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Post by bbk on Sept 3, 2019 15:20:55 GMT -5
I don't think it negative. It just matters to what growth one desires.
Growth of the sport at every level or just at the Division I level?
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Sept 3, 2019 16:20:17 GMT -5
Not to be the negative guy here, but how much will this really help? It expands a growing list of D2 schools for sure... However, this is just bringing us closer to D2 splitting off because they'll have enough teams to form their own Division Championship. Which eventually means that D1 goes back to having a Molten Championship rather than an NCAA one and many programs are not going to create a program that won't be competing for an NCAA Championship. MotorMVB needs to start making a push with schools in conferences that don't have football like the ASUN, MAAC, and Big East. Stop going for the Power 5 schools that want everything paid for and done for them. NCAA will always keep an official NCAA national championship at the DI level despite being below the minimum number of teams as it is deemed an "Olympic Sport". At least that was what I was told by NCAA committee members over 10 years ago. I am not sure but I do believe there are other NCAA sports below the number but maintain their NCAA national championship. In other words, you don't have to worry about DI becoming the Molten... Still, it would be nice to get DI to grow but it is going to be a difficult and long road. |
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Post by Wahinevball1234 on Sept 3, 2019 18:02:12 GMT -5
This is such a weird place to invest money. As much as I would love to see Men’s Volleyball expand amongst the black community, I don’t see how adding men’s volleyball at Division Two where Men’s volleyball is unpopular amongst the demographic of the vast majority of the student populations is going to help. The teams are unfortunately going to end up being the Men’s volleyball equivalent of the Southwestern athletic conference for women’s, which is by far the worst conference in women’s volleyball. Nobody wants to watch their school’s team get crushed.
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Post by Wahinevball1234 on Sept 3, 2019 18:04:43 GMT -5
Also, contrary to what the article says, outside of Cuba and Puerto Rico. Men’s volleyball really isn’t that popular in the Caribbean. I’m not exactly sure about Africa, but African teams never seem to do well at FIVB events.
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Post by robonthemic on Sept 3, 2019 18:38:27 GMT -5
I will always take the growth of the game as good news. Wade Gerrard, John Speraw and Jamie Davis are grinding to get growth on the men's side. I really haven't thought about the impact on D1/D2/D3/NAIA levels but I hope it starts opening the eyes of the Florida schools. On the beach side of things it seems there is quite a bit of boys growth in Tampa, Ft. Lauderdale-- and although it is beach, I'm hoping that somehow some way indoor can be affected. I guess I'm an optimist with the efforts of USAV, 1st Point and Speraw. One thing is for certain, in both indoor and beach men's the world is getting better at a younger age-- and our teams our teams are getting older so development via clubs, jrs, HS and collegiate is severely needed. www.teamusa.org/USA-Volleyball/Features/2019/September/03/SIAC-to-Sponsor-Mens-Volleyball-through-USAV-Grant |
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Post by Not Me on Sept 3, 2019 20:24:04 GMT -5
I wonder how a conference that is takes at the bottom of D2 conferences for women’s volleyball will fund these programs once the grant wears off.
With 6 schools sponsoring the sport, that million will be gone through pretty quickly.
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Post by shankapotamus on Sept 3, 2019 23:40:00 GMT -5
I'm still wondering when that USA Pro League via USA Volleyball is coming... The new CEO had that as is "mission statement" and it would be done by 2020. The only thing I've heard is 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗 (crickets)
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Post by vinnielopes on Sept 4, 2019 10:17:25 GMT -5
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Post by Confucius on Sept 5, 2019 14:38:22 GMT -5
I appreciate and agree with all that growth is great. I also agree that there has been a lot of growth in the Southeast part of the country for boy's.
However, if they want to grow the game, I reiterate my point that trying to get the ASUN involved (which already has NJIT) would have been the smart and correct move. They have Florida Gulf Coast, Lipscomb, Liberty, Kennesaw State, and a few other southern schools in Florida and Alabama and it would've been more beneficent to that region, plus you have some very good mid major athletic programs. Adding D2 schools I don't think encourages D1's to add, much less adding HBC's especially in a sport that historically is dominated by white California kids. Unless a kid is getting a full ride, I dont see many non African American athletes choosing an HBC over other schools. They will end up with a few decent players potentially that decide to go the HBC route instead of a Power 5 program and a bunch of internationals. That does nothing, in my opinion, to encourage the growth of volleyball with the United States.
Growth is good, but adding 5 random HBC's that are not well known in a historically caucasian dominated sport... I think there was a far better usage of $1 million.
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Post by pittsburgh7717 on Sept 5, 2019 19:59:57 GMT -5
I appreciate and agree with all that growth is great. I also agree that there has been a lot of growth in the Southeast part of the country for boy's. However, if they want to grow the game, I reiterate my point that trying to get the ASUN involved (which already has NJIT) would have been the smart and correct move. They have Florida Gulf Coast, Lipscomb, Liberty, Kennesaw State, and a few other southern schools in Florida and Alabama and it would've been more beneficent to that region, plus you have some very good mid major athletic programs. Adding D2 schools I don't think encourages D1's to add, much less adding HBC's especially in a sport that historically is dominated by white California kids. Unless a kid is getting a full ride, I dont see many non African American athletes choosing an HBC over other schools. They will end up with a few decent players potentially that decide to go the HBC route instead of a Power 5 program and a bunch of internationals. That does nothing, in my opinion, to encourage the growth of volleyball with the United States. Growth is good, but adding 5 random HBC's that are not well known in a historically caucasian dominated sport... I think there was a far better usage of $1 million. You just contradicted yourself. If the sport is already dominated by preppy California white boys, how is it not more beneficial to add programs at HBCUs in a region of the country where boys volleyball is virtually non-existent? Just say you dislike brown people and move on lol |
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