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Post by bealzabubba on Nov 18, 2019 14:00:23 GMT -5
I believe they are using from Q3 Division (Gold D1, Gold D2...) -> Place (1st, 2nd...) -> Match Percentage -> Game Percentage -> Point Ratio to rank the teams. So all the Gold D1 are ahead of Gold D2, all first places are ranked higher than second and then the last 3 are used as tie breakers in that order. Worked for the 18 and 16 when I checked them. Thanks - Verified for 16's through Gold that this was the methodology. One interesting point, applicable to 16s only, and probably only of interest to me (and the teams involved): This methodology didn't take into account the cross-overs between the two 3 team pools in Gold D2, and utilized the 50-25 points for a "drop victory" in those six teams' ratio (again, as opposed to using "real" ratio from actual games - the cross-overs.)
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Post by bealzabubba on Nov 20, 2019 11:21:22 GMT -5
16's and 14's pools for Points 1 are publicly posted, and the Standings have been revised for 16's.
16's: The revised standings changed almost every team: it went from the "match>Game>ratio" methodology to a "pool finish" method, which means changes in rank/seed for 31 of the top 38 teams in 16s.
ETA: This corrects the issue I mentioned above with Gold D2 results, which, again, probably interests only me and the teams affected.
Biggest "losers": BB15-1, SBCoast 15-1, Pinnacle 16-1, and SCVC 15-1, which all dropped a division (I see the latter 3 winning out and moving up).
Biggest "winner" was SG 16-2's, which moved up 8 spots and one division. Their reward - a super tough draw for that team.
Pool to watch: 1A, Pool 2: BB White and Blue, OCVC, Coast. (my only gripe: I wish this was on Ct 1A, not 1B).
Looks like it'll be a fun day, with a lot of very intriguing pools.
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Post by biggs on Nov 20, 2019 13:56:53 GMT -5
Pools taken down for this weekend. maybe some changes happening.
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Post by justspike2win on Nov 20, 2019 15:21:15 GMT -5
One reason they had to pull it down was there were two 5 team pools that were only on one court.
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Post by bealzabubba on Nov 20, 2019 19:04:35 GMT -5
One reason they had to pull it down was there were two 5 team pools that were only on one court. Back up, and that's what was fixed.
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Post by KPI on Nov 24, 2019 14:22:18 GMT -5
Anyone have some insight into the 17/18s games on Saturday?
Results look interesting from the pool play and a few surprises in playoffs.
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Post by relvy34 on Nov 24, 2019 15:03:23 GMT -5
Anyone have some insight into the 17/18s games on Saturday? Results look interesting from the pool play and a few surprises in playoffs. Anyone have a link to view the results online? I can't seem to find one.
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Post by KPI on Nov 24, 2019 16:34:56 GMT -5
Anyone have some insight into the 17/18s games on Saturday? Results look interesting from the pool play and a few surprises in playoffs. Anyone have a link to view the results online? I can't seem to find one. I think this is it, but go to weekend sites, and then there should be a results like: 1drv.ms/x/s!Ap6fL0mLXCv4ik7VYotoZhX8vBs4?e=IGmjbc
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Post by bealzabubba on Nov 25, 2019 12:59:21 GMT -5
Points 2 was a blast, overall, as expected.
Some observations on 16s:
1. The biggest news at ASC was MBS 16s losing 25-17 to BB Blue in playoffs, for the overall #1 spot. These two are the class of the division, at present.
2. OCVC needing to beat MBS 15's to avoid the drop implies they have some work to do. (4th in pool)
3. SCVC 16s appear to also be inconsistent - it dropped from 1A to 1B after finishing 4th in pool and losing to BB White.
4. Vegas and Coast are for real, but like everyone else have problems winning against the two top teams (BB Blue and MBS 16).
5. One "interesting" penalty from 2A pool: a team failed to provide a "complete" reffing crew (the coach was missing) for 15 minutes. That team was penalized one point for each minute in their next game, so started their next set with a score of 0-15.
I've never seen this penalty enforced before (at all), and candidly, I thought as applied was too harsh - that team had no chance to win the set or the match, so while not a direct forfeit, it had the same impact.
I understand the rationale, and in talking to some coaches, the fact that this penalty apparently happens a fair amount - just not to this extent.
ETA: Looked at the pools schedule, and the team played and was supposed to ref immediately after.
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Post by Volleyballer22 on Nov 28, 2019 23:25:00 GMT -5
Chip Baldwin moved from SMBC to SoCal Legends VBC.
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Post by bealzabubba on Dec 4, 2019 14:47:34 GMT -5
The Points 2 draws were posted, but 18's have been pulled already. 16s has some issues in 1A/1B, and will likely also need revision. Again.
Noteworthy: Playoffs this weekend were indicated, and the top halves of both 16s/18s are at ASC, with the bottom halves at Momentous.
ETA: All three divisions were pulled down. All three are back up. 16s appears fixed, at least as far as 1A/1B snafu's go.
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Post by rbillini on Dec 4, 2019 18:34:28 GMT -5
18s still not fixed. Pools 4A/B are listed twice and no schedule for teams seeded 81-96
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Post by bealzabubba on Dec 5, 2019 12:06:13 GMT -5
For those interested (which is probably only be me), since SCVA hasn't posting updated rankings, here's where 1A/1B teams rank after Points 1 (only the top 16 teams in each division), split out by age division in advance of HC:
18s:
1 SCVC 18 Quiksilver - mj8scvbc1sc 18 2 Coast 18-Jake - mj8coast1sc 18 3 MB SURF 18-1 ASICS MJ8MBSSV1S 18 4 Team Rockstar 18 Rockstar - mj8rstar 18 5 Balboa Bay VBC 18 Blue - mj8balby1s 18 6 Pinnacle 18s -mj8pnncl1sc 18 7 LEGACY BOYS 18 ELITE - MJ8LEGA 18 8 OCVC 18 Red - mj8ocvbc1sc 18 9 949 B18 Black - mj8949av1sc 18
17s:
1 Balboa Bay VBC 17 Blue - mj7balby1s 17 2 Team Rockstar 17 Rockstar - mj7rstar 17 3 Pinnacle 17s - mj7pnncl1sc 17 4 SG Elite 17 Elite-MJ7SGELT1SC 17 5 OCVC 17 Red - mj7ocvbc1sc 17 6 WAVE 17 Jed - MJ7WVEVB1SC 17 7 MB SURF 17-1 ASICS MJ7MBSSV1S 17
16s:
1 Balboa Bay VBC 16 Blue - mj6balby1s 16 2 MB SURF 16-1 ASICS MJ6MBSSV1SC 16 3 Vegas United 16 Navy - mj6vegas1sc 16 4 Coast 16 Chris - mj6coast1sc 16 5 OCVC 16 Red - mj6ocvbc1sc 16 6 Balboa Bay VBC 16 White - mj6balby2 16 7 WAVE 16 Cole - mj6wvevb1sc 16 8 SCVC 16 Quiksilver - mj6scvbc1sc 16 9 California VC 16 - mj6cavbc1sc 16 10 Team Rockstar 16 Rockstar - mj6rstar1 16 11 Pulse 16 Coleman - mj6pulse1sc 16 12 SG Elite 16 Elite-MJ6SGELT1SC 16
15s:
1 949 B15 Black - mj5949av1sc 15 2 MB SURF 15-1 ASICS MJ5MBSSV1SC 15 3 Balboa Bay VBC 15 Blue - mj5balby1sc 15 4 Team Rockstar 15 Rockstar - mj5rstar1sc 15
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Post by KPI on Dec 5, 2019 15:59:52 GMT -5
For those interested (which is probably only be me), since SCVA hasn't posting updated rankings, here's where 1A/1B teams rank after Points 1 (only the top 16 teams in each division), split out by age division in advance of HC: 18s: 1 SCVC 18 Quiksilver - mj8scvbc1sc 18 2 Coast 18-Jake - mj8coast1sc 18 3 MB SURF 18-1 ASICS MJ8MBSSV1S 18 4 Team Rockstar 18 Rockstar - mj8rstar 18 5 Balboa Bay VBC 18 Blue - mj8balby1s 18 6 Pinnacle 18s -mj8pnncl1sc 18 7 LEGACY BOYS 18 ELITE - MJ8LEGA 18 8 OCVC 18 Red - mj8ocvbc1sc 18 9 949 B18 Black - mj8949av1sc 18
17s: 1 Balboa Bay VBC 17 Blue - mj7balby1s 17 2 Team Rockstar 17 Rockstar - mj7rstar 17 3 Pinnacle 17s - mj7pnncl1sc 17 4 SG Elite 17 Elite-MJ7SGELT1SC 17 5 OCVC 17 Red - mj7ocvbc1sc 17 6 WAVE 17 Jed - MJ7WVEVB1SC 17 7 MB SURF 17-1 ASICS MJ7MBSSV1S 17
16s: 1 Balboa Bay VBC 16 Blue - mj6balby1s 16 2 MB SURF 16-1 ASICS MJ6MBSSV1SC 16 3 Vegas United 16 Navy - mj6vegas1sc 16 4 Coast 16 Chris - mj6coast1sc 16 5 OCVC 16 Red - mj6ocvbc1sc 16 6 Balboa Bay VBC 16 White - mj6balby2 16 7 WAVE 16 Cole - mj6wvevb1sc 16 8 SCVC 16 Quiksilver - mj6scvbc1sc 16 9 California VC 16 - mj6cavbc1sc 16 10 Team Rockstar 16 Rockstar - mj6rstar1 16 11 Pulse 16 Coleman - mj6pulse1sc 16 12 SG Elite 16 Elite-MJ6SGELT1SC 16
15s: 1 949 B15 Black - mj5949av1sc 15 2 MB SURF 15-1 ASICS MJ5MBSSV1SC 15 3 Balboa Bay VBC 15 Blue - mj5balby1sc 15 4 Team Rockstar 15 Rockstar - mj5rstar1sc 15
Thank you!
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Post by VBSH 2 on Dec 5, 2019 16:51:07 GMT -5
Chip Baldwin moved from SMBC to SoCal Legends VBC. Thanks, I will let Trent know.
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