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Post by bigfatethanhawke on Oct 9, 2019 14:45:42 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS: New height rule changes updates Sean McQuickcum's height to 6'3.5" and Ben Court to 5'11".
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Post by xxxnoscope72xxx on Oct 9, 2019 21:24:19 GMT -5
I concur with your opinion on SCVC's superiority, however, I shall dissent and say that Dvorak is in fact wack and a hack. I don't understand the hype behind him. The dude has switched clubs a million times. The lack of loyalty and integrity along with the arrogance he has on the court is shameful. SCVC looking solid this season although their middle situation is a bit troubling. I'm hopeful they'll find a way His arrogance is completely unfounded. I can't name 5 setters in the entire 16 USA division that Devorak is better than. Don't even get me started on 18s. The athletic beasts in 18s make him look like a heavy set 14s libero. Edward Scissorhands has a softer touch than this empty shell of a last name.
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Post by babybacksets on Oct 10, 2019 2:33:11 GMT -5
Can this thread please evolve into something legitimate?
We get it, the teenage boy you/your son plays against is a douche. Most are at that age and throughout their college careers. Just beat him on the court and save the $hit-talking for across the net instead with your keyboard. Isn’t that supposed to be the best part?
Season starts next weekend and you would think for a sport not known to be taken seriously by those outside of it, those who are inside of it would take THEMSELVES at least a little more so.
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Post by bealzabubba on Oct 10, 2019 11:21:57 GMT -5
An initial seeding question for Qualifiers 1:
1. Does the team "inherit" the club's position from the last year (i.e. club's 17s this year assumes last years 17s rough rank), or 2. Does it carry forward from last year (so the 17s would roughly be ranked where they were as 16s), or 3. Is there input from the club / other source ("hey, our 17's added awesome players X, Y, and Z from competitor, they're much better now than last year!") that SCVA uses to evaluate the initial seeding?
Looking at the draw for Q1 from last year, it *seems* that 2 predominates, but... anyone have more insight / past experience?
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Post by G$ on Oct 10, 2019 11:38:24 GMT -5
An initial seeding question for Qualifiers 1: 1. Does the team "inherit" the club's position from the last year (i.e. club's 17s this year assumes last years 17s rough rank), or 2. Does it carry forward from last year (so the 17s would roughly be ranked where they were as 16s), or 3. Is there input from the club / other source ("hey, our 17's added awesome players X, Y, and Z from competitor, they're much better now than last year!") that SCVA uses to evaluate the initial seeding? Looking at the draw for Q1 from last year, it *seems* that 2 predominates, but... anyone have more insight / past experience? In years past, I believe Club Directors also have influenced seeding, especially from the big clubs. I submit SCVA uses both Last years' finish of the incoming team (ie. 16s finish from 2018/19 carries to 17s seeding 2019/2020) and your #3 above. I know our Club Director talks with SCVA and has influence on the seeding.
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Post by teamjess on Oct 10, 2019 11:47:15 GMT -5
An initial seeding question for Qualifiers 1: 1. Does the team "inherit" the club's position from the last year (i.e. club's 17s this year assumes last years 17s rough rank), or 2. Does it carry forward from last year (so the 17s would roughly be ranked where they were as 16s), or 3. Is there input from the club / other source ("hey, our 17's added awesome players X, Y, and Z from competitor, they're much better now than last year!") that SCVA uses to evaluate the initial seeding? Looking at the draw for Q1 from last year, it *seems* that 2 predominates, but... anyone have more insight / past experience? For the most part I remember day 1 being seeded based on that teams finish in the SCVA overall points. So the top 17s team in points would be the number one 18s team (but since some teams make a jump from 16U to 18U they plug them in as best they can). There have been some head scratchers for sure but that is the general way it goes. I’m trying to remember what happened with the SMBC-Pali 18s “super team” from a couple years ago that was just created for that 18s season only so no previous ranking - I think they were seeded fairly high.
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Post by bealzabubba on Oct 10, 2019 11:54:23 GMT -5
An initial seeding question for Qualifiers 1: 1. Does the team "inherit" the club's position from the last year (i.e. club's 17s this year assumes last years 17s rough rank), or 2. Does it carry forward from last year (so the 17s would roughly be ranked where they were as 16s), or 3. Is there input from the club / other source ("hey, our 17's added awesome players X, Y, and Z from competitor, they're much better now than last year!") that SCVA uses to evaluate the initial seeding? Looking at the draw for Q1 from last year, it *seems* that 2 predominates, but... anyone have more insight / past experience? In years past, I believe Club Directors also have influenced seeding, especially from the big clubs. I submit SCVA uses both Last years' finish of the incoming team (ie. 16s finish from 2018/19 carries to 17s seeding 2019/2020) and your #3 above. I know our Club Director talks with SCVA and has influence on the seeding. Thanks - it does makes sense to me to combine 2 and 3, so long as the info given by the CD's are in good faith, which I infer it would be. I'm aware it doesn't make that much difference, if the flowchart works the same as last year (i.e. top 2 teams in Q1 pool stay gold eligible for Q2). I'm hoping they post the draw earlier than next Tuesday, but we'll see.
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Post by bealzabubba on Oct 10, 2019 12:02:41 GMT -5
An initial seeding question for Qualifiers 1: 1. Does the team "inherit" the club's position from the last year (i.e. club's 17s this year assumes last years 17s rough rank), or 2. Does it carry forward from last year (so the 17s would roughly be ranked where they were as 16s), or 3. Is there input from the club / other source ("hey, our 17's added awesome players X, Y, and Z from competitor, they're much better now than last year!") that SCVA uses to evaluate the initial seeding? Looking at the draw for Q1 from last year, it *seems* that 2 predominates, but... anyone have more insight / past experience? For the most part I remember day 1 being seeded based on that teams finish in the SCVA overall points. So the top 17s team in points would be the number one 18s team (but since some teams make a jump from 16U to 18U they plug them in as best they can). There have been some head scratchers for sure but that is the general way it goes. I’m trying to remember what happened with the SMBC-Pali 18s “super team” from a couple years ago that was just created for that 18s season only so no previous ranking - I think they were seeded fairly high. That was one question I was interested in - a team that didn't play in a given age. How do you evaluate them? An example: Rockstar 16-1's, because Rockstar didn't field a 15's team last year (they did field a 15/16s, as did a number of other clubs). It does make sense in situations like that to have the club/CD give a good faith estimate of how good the team can/might be, rather than just a pure ranking evaluation, and the "big club" preference may simply be time/experience.
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Post by teamjess on Oct 10, 2019 12:11:14 GMT -5
Did a quick search and it looks like the "Superteam" I was referring to was seeded #5 on day one of the SCVA qualifiers (2017/2018 season). So at least that year -for that team - they did take into account information from the club regarding the strength of the team - and that particular team did prove to belong near the top.
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Post by VT Five-0 on Oct 10, 2019 13:14:34 GMT -5
We have received numerous reports about some of the members of this thread making inflammatory comments. Let me remind you, the moment you registered an account on this messageboard, you agreed to a set of limitations on what you can and cannot post. If we continue to get notices of people breaking the rules (you know who you are), you will be banned from posting on Volleytalk. This is your warning.
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Post by bigfatethanhawke on Oct 10, 2019 15:30:57 GMT -5
We have received numerous reports about some of the members of this thread making inflammatory comments. Let me remind you, the moment you registered an account on this messageboard, you agreed to a set of limitations on what you can and cannot post. If we continue to get notices of people breaking the rules (you know who you are), you will be banned from posting on Volleytalk. This is your warning. Trying to curb free speech, sounds a lot like the Chinese government. I'd be careful of this guy he might steal your organs.
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Post by chicagobest on Oct 10, 2019 15:38:02 GMT -5
We have received numerous reports about some of the members of this thread making inflammatory comments. Let me remind you, the moment you registered an account on this messageboard, you agreed to a set of limitations on what you can and cannot post. If we continue to get notices of people breaking the rules (you know who you are), you will be banned from posting on Volleytalk. This is your warning. Trying to curb free speech, sounds a lot like the Chinese government. I'd be careful of this guy he might steal your organs. That's cool and all but have you heard of a Chicago setter named Zeo Meyer?
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Post by westcoastbias on Oct 10, 2019 16:15:12 GMT -5
Trying to curb free speech, sounds a lot like the Chinese government. I'd be careful of this guy he might steal your organs. That's cool and all but have you heard of a Chicago setter named Zeo Meyer? Good job switching handles so quickly - you've got this trolling thing nailed
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Post by chicagobest on Oct 10, 2019 16:18:59 GMT -5
That's cool and all but have you heard of a Chicago setter named Zeo Meyer? Good job switching handles so quickly - you've got this trolling thing nailed I don't know what you're talking about. I'm just here to spread awareness of Chicago volleyball.
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Post by bigfatethanhawke on Oct 10, 2019 16:24:01 GMT -5
Good job switching handles so quickly - you've got this trolling thing nailed I don't know what you're talking about. I'm just here to spread awareness of Chicago volleyball. Thomas jaeschke actually is from chicago. Same with Sean Rooney
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