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Post by JB Southpaw on Sept 27, 2019 8:17:16 GMT -5
April - being April
Sarah- Biggest block
E Day - worst finish was a 5th
Alix - serving and blocking point getter
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Post by ajm on Sept 27, 2019 9:07:30 GMT -5
I would put Betsi ahead of EmDay. She rarely got served this year, excellent hand sets, and probably the best float serve on tour.
Mel should get some consideration as well. Best at defense and best at siding out among players who get the majority of her team’s serves.
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Post by timvb17 on Sept 27, 2019 9:10:05 GMT -5
MHP in my opinion.
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Post by guest2 on Sept 27, 2019 9:57:14 GMT -5
I would put Betsi ahead of EmDay. She rarely got served this year, excellent hand sets, and probably the best float serve on tour. Mel should get some consideration as well. Best at defense and best at siding out among players who get the majority of her team’s serves. Either/or neither belongs on the mvp short list. Also whoever gets majority of serves on the ATeam sides out better than MHP. Agree on defense |
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Post by timvb17 on Sept 27, 2019 10:02:19 GMT -5
Why are they losing to the canadians then? Sideout vs sideout should be quite similar, right?
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Post by guest2 on Sept 27, 2019 10:04:38 GMT -5
Why are they losing to the canadians then? Sideout vs sideout should be quite similar, right? No both Americans are better sideout players but the Canadians have a better block and d. Put them both against a third team and April/Alix will sideout at a higher rate and Mhpavs will score more real points |
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Post by timvb17 on Sept 27, 2019 10:13:47 GMT -5
Okay that is true. But against each other the first ball sideout rate should be quite even.
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Post by guest2 on Sept 27, 2019 10:18:20 GMT -5
Okay that is true. But against each other the first ball sideout rate should be quite even. I'd be interested to see a breakdown. They always end up so even but how they get there may be very different. I'd guess alix/April get more first balls down but Mhpavs win more long rallies, but that's a guess |
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Post by floridaLOG on Sept 27, 2019 12:18:03 GMT -5
This may be a hot take but since it’s volleytalk I assume KWJ should be on the lisg. I also understand if this is avp focused
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Post by houdini on Oct 10, 2019 12:37:30 GMT -5
Why are they losing to the canadians then? Sideout vs sideout should be quite similar, right? No both Americans are better sideout players but the Canadians have a better block and d. Put them both against a third team and April/Alix will sideout at a higher rate and Mhpavs will score more real points Better block? In the sense that Pavan is perceived as an obstacle/threat by opponents, yes. Granted that's important. The lack of FIVB statistics is troubling for fans and pros alike but at least at the World Championships Pavan was NOT in the top ten of blocks per set at 1.25. Behind Brandie, Walsh, Graudina et. al. hamburg2019.com/en/teams-players/beach_heroes?active=Players+%26+Teams_Statistics |
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Post by dunninla3 on Oct 10, 2019 15:44:45 GMT -5
^ that doesn't account for teams that have given up trying to challenge her block, so Pavan's block funnels shots right into MHP's platform. that is what you saw in the game vs. Ateam... April must have hit 10 balls right to MHP b/c she couldn't get it over or through Pavan's block.
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Post by guest2 on Oct 10, 2019 15:48:41 GMT -5
No both Americans are better sideout players but the Canadians have a better block and d. Put them both against a third team and April/Alix will sideout at a higher rate and Mhpavs will score more real points Better block? In the sense that Pavan is perceived as an obstacle/threat by opponents, yes. Granted that's important. The lack of FIVB statistics is troubling for fans and pros alike but at least at the World Championships Pavan was NOT in the top ten of blocks per set at 1.25. Behind Brandie, Walsh, Graudina et. al. hamburg2019.com/en/teams-players/beach_heroes?active=Players+%26+Teams_StatisticsVolleyball stats are notoriously not indicative of actual quality of play and no argument for that could be more compelling than the fact that Pavan, in an event where she was brilliant, was not even top 10 blocks per game. Lahti, as invisible a presence at the net as I can think of, averaged 1.89 to Pavs 1.25 She was also better than Walsh, Clancy, Klineman etc. as was Kortzinger (who?) |
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Post by tafit on Oct 15, 2019 3:50:00 GMT -5
Volleyball stats are notoriously not indicative of actual quality of play and no argument for that could be more compelling than the fact that Pavan, in an event where she was brilliant, was not even top 10 blocks per game. Lahti, as invisible a presence at the net as I can think of, averaged 1.89 to Pavs 1.25 She was also better than Walsh, Clancy, Klineman etc. as was Kortzinger (who?) Being brilliant siding out our setting doesn't mean she did a good job blocking. A tall athlete isn't necessarily a good blocker, often the challenge is to not be too visible for the hitter. But it's true, this stats might be misleading, a better way to measure blocking ability is maybe the percentage of blocks per hard attack? (& adding a bonus for shotblocks). |
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