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Post by stull90210 on Oct 29, 2019 14:42:20 GMT -5
Yeah but there are only 12 teams in the qualifier and they are the top seed therefore they have no qualifier matches to play. Aka a “bye” into the main draw. They will be sorted into a pool with everyone once qualifiers are complete for the few times that do have a qualifying game. The poster was not trying to argue with the “veteran poster”. They just said that they think Stocsen is already in the main draw with a bye (they are right).
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Post by dunninla3 on Oct 29, 2019 14:43:44 GMT -5
Ahhhh, damned English language.
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Post by stull90210 on Oct 29, 2019 14:46:15 GMT -5
Ahhhh, damned English language. Lol okay glad we are on the same page now, I will re edit my post now so I don’t sound so angry.
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Post by guest2 on Oct 29, 2019 15:44:40 GMT -5
stocsen is not in the Main Draw. Here is the Qualifier page from the Qinzhou website worldtour.2019.fivb.com/en/wqin2019/women/teamsinfo/qualificationthat is what I meant when I wrote that a newbie should triple check before they argue with a veteran poster here. I can see where he got that wrong b/c the page he linked is slightly confusing in that it says both Qualifier and Main Draw in the tabs at the top. Thats the qualifier bracket bvbinfo.com/Tournament.asp?ID=3732&Process=QBracketIts one match and you are in and the 5 seed is playing the 12 (the last) Stocsen sure appear to be in and the FIVB site is notoriously awful (notably when you click on WT and go to 3 Stars Qinzhou is listed twice with the first linking to last season's event) Also I went to Stockman and Larsen's social media (Twitter and IG) to confirm but neither has updated recently beyond some treacly nonsense about growth mindset from Stockman. Pro tip for athletes: Try to limit your social media to either being out of date or boring.
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Post by ebes1099 on Oct 29, 2019 15:49:11 GMT -5
stocsen is not in the Main Draw. Here is the Qualifier page from the Qinzhou website worldtour.2019.fivb.com/en/wqin2019/women/teamsinfo/qualificationthat is what I meant when I wrote that a newbie should triple check before they argue with a veteran poster here. I can see where he got that wrong b/c the page he linked is slightly confusing in that it says both Qualifier and Main Draw in the tabs at the top. I see Stocsen in Round 1 of the qualifier with no opponent (a bye), and there is no Round 2 of qualifying on the women's side. So I think what everyone is trying to say is that once the qualifier is over, Stocsen will be in the main draw, since they don't have to play a match in the qualifier to gain entry to the main draw (due to a small number of teams signing up for the Q). EDIT: I missed page 2 of the thread when I responded so I see a few people already answered this above.
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Post by dunninla3 on Oct 29, 2019 15:50:19 GMT -5
I believe, even though the website is not completely updated, that Qualifer seeds 1-3, based on Entry Points (Stocsen) automatically advance into Main draw as MD seeds 25-27, and then the remaining Qualifer seeds play with the five winners advancing to MD seeds 28-32.
So in a way it is true that Stocsen are in MD via a bye. It is also true that they were in the Qualifier, but only for about a nanosecond.
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Post by guest2 on Oct 29, 2019 17:25:45 GMT -5
I believe, even though the website is not completely updated, that Qualifer seeds 1-3, based on Entry Points (Stocsen) automatically advance into Main draw as MD seeds 25-27, and then the remaining Qualifer seeds play with the five winners advancing to MD seeds 28-32. So in a way it is true that Stocsen are in MD via a bye. It is also true that they were in the Qualifier, but only for about a nanosecond. Unless the FIVB has made changes or I am missing something that should also be incorrect. Arent seeds based on points, not whether a team qualified? For example Ana/Rebecca qualified last year in Las Vegas and were the 8 seed in the Main Draw, Kerri/Brooke qualified in Rome and were the 11
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Post by thebeachball on Oct 29, 2019 17:57:23 GMT -5
I believe, even though the website is not completely updated, that Qualifer seeds 1-3, based on Entry Points (Stocsen) automatically advance into Main draw as MD seeds 25-27, and then the remaining Qualifer seeds play with the five winners advancing to MD seeds 28-32. So in a way it is true that Stocsen are in MD via a bye. It is also true that they were in the Qualifier, but only for about a nanosecond. Unless the FIVB has made changes or I am missing something that should also be incorrect. Arent seeds based on points, not whether a team qualified? For example Ana/Rebecca qualified last year in Las Vegas and were the 8 seed in the Main Draw, Kerri/Brooke qualified in Rome and were the 11 I understand that he can say MD position 25-27, but seeds in MD are with entry points I think Stocsen will be seed 6 in MD. So USA´s seed 2,3,5 & 6. *edit* with China as local, seed 1, USA´s seed 3,4,6 & 7
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Post by dunninla3 on Oct 29, 2019 19:09:51 GMT -5
got it, thanks.
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Post by acrossthepond on Oct 30, 2019 7:35:49 GMT -5
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Post by graham on Oct 30, 2019 7:59:25 GMT -5
Seems like both Tamz and thebeachball are saying 2 different things and they are both correct. Tamz: 3 US teams can be in MD assuming they have enough points to qualify, another US team could make MD via winning CQ & winning in Qualification round...or a Wild Card TheBeachball: Stocksen is automatically into the MD due to bye While Stocksen was "technically" in the Quallys, they received a bye due to not enough entrants & them being a top seed. The bye to the next round of the Quallys put them into the MD, so, in essence, while they were in the Qualification, they did not have to do anything so they along with a few other high seeds automatically advanced to the MD due to a first round bye in the Qualification round. Am I missing something? Bigger question is why Day/Flint played CQ, I believe they won and then decided to not go. If they did win CQ and decided not to go, why did they play or did someone get hurt? I believe the Country Quota Day/Flint won was for entry into the Chetumal, Mexico 4 Star in a couple weeks.
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Post by ajm on Oct 30, 2019 8:01:12 GMT -5
Bigger question is why Day/Flint played CQ, I believe they won and then decided to not go. If they did win CQ and decided not to go, why did they play or did someone get hurt? Day/Flint must have dropped out of this one. The CQ they played stateside last week was for Chetumal. Day/Flint beat Larsen/Stockman in that one.
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Post by keeweekid on Oct 30, 2019 8:37:17 GMT -5
Chetumal CQ- got it. Thanks!
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Post by downtheline on Oct 30, 2019 9:57:24 GMT -5
Anyone have a video link for these matches?. The very much.
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Post by dunninla3 on Oct 30, 2019 15:52:30 GMT -5
downtheline -- I believe FiVB only broadcasts the semifinals and finals in 3* and 4*, and that is on their youtube channel.
Earlier this year i watched a bunch of Itapema and a couple of other 4* Main Draw matches on betting websites... one in particular was in Russia. But I don't think 3* makes it onto those sites.
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