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Post by ironhammer on Dec 5, 2019 19:02:48 GMT -5
They have another trailer from the movie. It features this...guy, not sure who he is exactly. But he looks too young to be the coach and Lang Ping seems to beat up on him at the start of the trailer. I heard he might be a young Chen Zhonghe, the coach of who led China to gold at Athens 2004. As for the trailer...I don't know, is it supposed to be funny at the start and then it becomes kinda...not sure what tone it is trying to go at. My rudimentary command of Chinese does not allow me to understand most of it...lost in translation for me. It does raise interesting questons though, what is his background tale? Another interesting thing, we do get to see more of Lang Ping played by Lydia. I've seen Lydia play for Stanford during her time there, but I had no idea she could act too. What do you think of her acting? Translation: "This is a sports stove. You can't eat these." "I will whatever I want to eat!" "Hey! Why are you like this?" "Just because of me (did I miss something like an adjective?) (Learn from you -- what the teams say when shaking hands under the net before a scrimmage) I can only serve for the Fujian team But this is better than playing ball." // something didn't translate well here ("Catch the ball for me!" -serves into his face) "Do you know..." -Chen Kexin- -Director's work- "The distance from the bottom of the Chinese flag to the ground is three meters and thirty-two (cm?). That's (FLO!) Hyman's touch. One day I will exceed her." "If you beat me today, I'll give you [training for my whole] life." "We can't play for a lifetime. You haven't enjoyed being a head coach of the Chinese women's volleyball team?" //again, something must be missing "You must pay attention to Yumi Maruyama's hook ball. We must seize their routine and use their routine to hit them. No one can smile and win the world championship." "Comrade! Are you an athlete? I also play volleyball!" "1-2-3!" "Actually from then on you should know that we will meet sooner or later, Director (Coach) Chen. You can't escape." They mentioned Flo Hyman? They are getting the names right I can tell you that. As for Chen, he led China to gold at Athens, so he is a respectable and decent coach himself. If I recall, he always had a deceptively easy-going and laid-back coaching style during matches.
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Post by vollem on Dec 6, 2019 16:22:43 GMT -5
Early playerhood/recruitment to NT, meeting Zhonghe, playing in Olympics, coaching USA, coaching China... how much time is this going to take without rushing any of these arcs?
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 6, 2019 20:44:07 GMT -5
Early playerhood/recruitment to NT, meeting Zhonghe, playing in Olympics, coaching USA, coaching China... how much time is this going to take without rushing any of these arcs? We'll have to just wait and see. Could be cramming too much stuff into a single movie...or it could work. Hmmmmmm...hard to say at this point. What's your hunch?
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Post by vollem on Dec 7, 2019 2:00:05 GMT -5
We'll have to just wait and see. Could be cramming too much stuff into a single movie...or it could work. Hmmmmmm...hard to say at this point. What's your hunch? As a movie, it'd be very hard to do every arc justice. How many 3 hour movies are successful in theaters (not including a 1.5-2 hr movie that gets a dvd release with all the deleted scenes etc)? I suppose montaging some parts in early life/training could move it along, but even then it would probably clock in over 2 hours easily. I also don't watch many movies.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 7, 2019 9:00:45 GMT -5
We'll have to just wait and see. Could be cramming too much stuff into a single movie...or it could work. Hmmmmmm...hard to say at this point. What's your hunch? As a movie, it'd be very hard to do every arc justice. How many 3 hour movies are successful in theaters (not including a 1.5-2 hr movie that gets a dvd release with all the deleted scenes etc)? I suppose montaging some parts in early life/training could move it along, but even then it would probably clock in over 2 hours easily. I also don't watch many movies. True. They could be cramming too much stuff in. But his story might not be a main feature but more of a side story, so that might work.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 20, 2019 22:52:54 GMT -5
We'll have to just wait and see. Could be cramming too much stuff into a single movie...or it could work. Hmmmmmm...hard to say at this point. What's your hunch? As a movie, it'd be very hard to do every arc justice. How many 3 hour movies are successful in theaters (not including a 1.5-2 hr movie that gets a dvd release with all the deleted scenes etc)? I suppose montaging some parts in early life/training could move it along, but even then it would probably clock in over 2 hours easily. I also don't watch many movies. Another trailer is out, and it now features Lang Ping's stint as USA head coach and her speaking a little English: The trailer seem to feature the China vs US match at the Beijing Olympics and also have Zhu Ting in the film.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 24, 2019 8:05:10 GMT -5
Being baffled is the right response. It could be a mess of a movie, very average or actually pretty decent. Only time will tell. But because of its subject-matter, I can't help but follow it. I don't know enough to have any expectations, just the subject appeals to me. Anything with volleyball, haha. Good thing is because of the trailer my expectation is already quite low so if it turns out halfway-decent I’ll be very happy. lol There is yet another new trailer, wow, they are popping up with increasing frequency. Still no idea whether the movie will be decent. But, at least for the volleyball action on screen, I think we now can have a better idea that it will be legit. Why? It's confirmed past and present Chinese NT members, including Zhu Ting will act in the movie. In fact, the latest trailer we get to see Zhu Ting speak a few lines in the movie with Gong Li in the role of Lang Ping: So maybe we'll get to see better volleyball action than, say, "Miracle", which I know was criticized for some of the on-court action.
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Post by alohavball on Dec 24, 2019 14:50:26 GMT -5
Looks like they even added the story line about Zhang Changning swtiching to indoor after her stint playing beach volleyball (0:19).
Just noticed that the actor playing Lang Ping (Gong Li) is also playing the witch Xian Lang in the upcoming live action Mulan.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 24, 2019 21:00:43 GMT -5
Looks like they even added the story line about Zhang Changning swtiching to indoor after her stint playing beach volleyball (0:19). Just noticed that the actor playing Lang Ping (Gong Li) is also playing the witch Xian Lang in the upcoming live action Mulan. Yeah they got that part right. Zhang did started off playing on the beach. She wanted to switched to indoor, but the powers-that-be, the local sports bureau, forbade her doing so. Zhang quit the beach game as a result and she was banned from playing volleyball. But that ban was lifted after criticism from media and fans saying the ban was harsh and not necessary. Although not sure if the ban will be featured in the movie.
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Post by des on Dec 24, 2019 22:29:48 GMT -5
Good thing is because of the trailer my expectation is already quite low so if it turns out halfway-decent I’ll be very happy. lol There is yet another new trailer, wow, they are popping up with increasing frequency. Still no idea whether the movie will be decent. But, at least for the volleyball action on screen, I think we now can have a better idea that it will be legit. Why? It's confirmed past and present Chinese NT members, including Zhu Ting will act in the movie. In fact, the latest trailer we get to see Zhu Ting speak a few lines in the movie with Gong Li in the role of Lang Ping: So maybe we'll get to see better volleyball action than, say, "Miracle", which I know was criticized for some of the on-court action. Well that certainly raises my expectations. Lots of volleyball featured which I liked and because of focusing on that aspect the tone seemed consistent. Will definitely watch this the first chance I get.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 25, 2019 8:56:18 GMT -5
There is yet another new trailer, wow, they are popping up with increasing frequency. Still no idea whether the movie will be decent. But, at least for the volleyball action on screen, I think we now can have a better idea that it will be legit. Why? It's confirmed past and present Chinese NT members, including Zhu Ting will act in the movie. In fact, the latest trailer we get to see Zhu Ting speak a few lines in the movie with Gong Li in the role of Lang Ping: So maybe we'll get to see better volleyball action than, say, "Miracle", which I know was criticized for some of the on-court action. Well that certainly raises my expectations. Lots of volleyball featured which I liked and because of focusing on that aspect the tone seemed consistent. Will definitely watch this the first chance I get. For volleyball action, provided they shoot it right, it should look pretty authentic, since the athletes would be playing themselves. Although for their acting skills, that I don't know. Gong Li is a bona fide and accomplished actress. But it seems most of the other roles are real volleyball athletes acting for the first time. People think acting is easy and natural until someone puts a camera in front of their face and record their reading of some dialogue. In most cases it looks awkward, like a garbled sound system rather than a real human reacting with real emotions. So acting is not always as easy as it looks. If I look at athletes who tried acting, the record is decidedly mixed at best. Michael Jordan was terrible in Space Jam. He might be the best basketball player ever, but in terms of acting skills, no I don't think he is good at it. Shaq in Blue Chips and Steel, I can't remember which I saw him in, but I do remember his acting was not that convincing. And l won't limit this to NBA players. For football players, Howie Long tried his hand in acting after his NFL retirement and let's just say his performance in Firestorm was not very...memorable. The only really good athlete-turn-actor I can recall is Terry Crews. So the Chinese players may come off as a little wooden or not so convincing in reciting their lines. But so long as there are good volleyball scenes, I can forgive that.
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Post by des on Dec 25, 2019 9:18:52 GMT -5
Well that certainly raises my expectations. Lots of volleyball featured which I liked and because of focusing on that aspect the tone seemed consistent. Will definitely watch this the first chance I get. For volleyball action, provided they shoot it right, it should look pretty authentic, since the athletes would be playing themselves. Although for their acting skills, that I don't know. Gong Li is a bona fide and accomplished actress. But it seems most of the other roles are real volleyball athletes acting for the first time. People think acting is easy and natural until someone puts a camera in front of their face and record their reading of some dialogue. In most cases it looks awkward, like a garbled sound system rather than a real human reacting with real emotions. So acting is not always as easy as it looks. If I look at athletes who tried acting, the record is decidedly mixed at best. Michael Jordan was terrible in Space Jam. He might be the best basketball player ever, but in terms of acting skills, no I don't think he is good at it. Shaq in Blue Chips and Steel, I can't remember which I saw him in, but I do remember his acting was not that convincing. And l won't limit this to NBA players. For football players, Howie Long tried his hand in acting after his NFL retirement and let's just say his performance in Firestorm was not very...memorable. The only really good athlete-turn-actor I can recall is Terry Crews. So the Chinese players may come off as a little wooden or not so convincing in reciting their lines. But so long as there is good volleyball scenes, I can forgive that. What’s actually quite distracting for me is Hui Ruoqi’s very noticable full head of makeup, especially compared to others. My eyes went straight to her cos’ others were not wearing heavy makeups, or if at all. And yes, the acting of the real athletes might be sispect so I hope they show more of them playing and training than giving them lines in the movie. Or at least limit the athletes’ need to act.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 25, 2019 9:55:41 GMT -5
For volleyball action, provided they shoot it right, it should look pretty authentic, since the athletes would be playing themselves. Although for their acting skills, that I don't know. Gong Li is a bona fide and accomplished actress. But it seems most of the other roles are real volleyball athletes acting for the first time. People think acting is easy and natural until someone puts a camera in front of their face and record their reading of some dialogue. In most cases it looks awkward, like a garbled sound system rather than a real human reacting with real emotions. So acting is not always as easy as it looks. If I look at athletes who tried acting, the record is decidedly mixed at best. Michael Jordan was terrible in Space Jam. He might be the best basketball player ever, but in terms of acting skills, no I don't think he is good at it. Shaq in Blue Chips and Steel, I can't remember which I saw him in, but I do remember his acting was not that convincing. And l won't limit this to NBA players. For football players, Howie Long tried his hand in acting after his NFL retirement and let's just say his performance in Firestorm was not very...memorable. The only really good athlete-turn-actor I can recall is Terry Crews. So the Chinese players may come off as a little wooden or not so convincing in reciting their lines. But so long as there is good volleyball scenes, I can forgive that. What’s actually quite distracting for me is Hui Ruoqi’s very noticable full head of makeup, especially compared to others. My eyes went straight to her cos’ others were not wearing heavy makeups, or if at all. And yes, the acting of the real athletes might be sispect so I hope they show more of them playing and training than giving them lines in the movie. Or at least limit the athletes’ need to act. I need to re-watch the trailer to see that. Funny they would put a lot of make-up on Hui. She is regarded in China as a natural beauty, a popular athlete known not only for talent but also her looks. So one would think she would need less make-up. Speaking of athletes acting, I think a lot of the burden will fall on Lydia who will play her mother during her playing career. She is not an actress either, as she worked, if I am not mistaken, in an investment bank after her graduation from Stanford. I am assuming she took some acting lessons to try and make her perfomance more convincing.
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Post by des on Dec 25, 2019 18:24:40 GMT -5
What’s actually quite distracting for me is Hui Ruoqi’s very noticable full head of makeup, especially compared to others. My eyes went straight to her cos’ others were not wearing heavy makeups, or if at all. And yes, the acting of the real athletes might be sispect so I hope they show more of them playing and training than giving them lines in the movie. Or at least limit the athletes’ need to act. I need to re-watch the trailer to see that. Funny they would put a lot of make-up on Hui. She is regarded in China as a natural beauty, a popular athlete known not only for talent but also her looks. So one would think she would need less make-up. Speaking of athletes acting, I think a lot of the burden will fall on Lydia who will play her mother during her playing career. She is not an actress either, as she worked, if I am not mistaken, in an investment bank after her graduation from Stanford. I am assuming she took some acting lessons to try and make her perfomance more convincing. On rewatch she doesn’t seem to be wearing any, too. Maybe she is naturally beautiful that way that’s why my eyes went straight to her and not gonna lie, Hui Ruoqi is one of my favorites from China’s 2012 roster. Lydia is quite interesting too and it will depend upon how long they focus on Lang Ping’s playing years but I’m guessing Gong Li will do all the heavy-lifting here, acting-wise.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 25, 2019 21:50:11 GMT -5
I need to re-watch the trailer to see that. Funny they would put a lot of make-up on Hui. She is regarded in China as a natural beauty, a popular athlete known not only for talent but also her looks. So one would think she would need less make-up. Speaking of athletes acting, I think a lot of the burden will fall on Lydia who will play her mother during her playing career. She is not an actress either, as she worked, if I am not mistaken, in an investment bank after her graduation from Stanford. I am assuming she took some acting lessons to try and make her perfomance more convincing. On rewatch she doesn’t seem to be wearing any, too. Maybe she is naturally beautiful that way that’s why my eyes went straight to her and not gonna lie, Hui Ruoqi is one of my favorites from China’s 2012 roster. Lydia is quite interesting too and it will depend upon how long they focus on Lang Ping’s playing years but I’m guessing Gong Li will do all the heavy-lifting here, acting-wise.That should be the case I think. I don't think they would hire a top grade actress like Gong Li for background scenes, hehe. The real athletes will be there to add a feel of authenticity for on-court action. Although some may unavoidably require to do some acting, we'll see how they do.
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