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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 12:57:23 GMT -5
NCVA Power League Schedule/ResultsThat MVVC 16 Red team is pretty good, too. They are currently undefeated through 24 matches, only losing one set (to the B2B 15-1's). The B2B 16-1 team is playing up in the 17/18 division, though, so MVVC's record might be a little different if that team were playing in their own age group.M B2B had the singularly most impressive player (to me) in 15s last year (Snoey), and were a very good team. MVVC? Who're they? . For 16 Open, and without having seen our NorCal brethren this year: MVVC Red over MB Surf for the win. Thoughts on MVVC this year? They seem strong adding a lefty on the oppo, as well as a new libero. Surf added SG elites opposite but lost some of their bench from last year, Balboa added OCVC’s middle at the opposite position as well as a new libero, Bay added a few new middles which should be interesting to see.
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Post by fandad on Nov 19, 2019 14:45:01 GMT -5
B2B had the singularly most impressive player (to me) in 15s last year (Snoey), and were a very good team. MVVC? Who're they? . Thoughts on MVVC this year? They seem strong adding a lefty on the oppo, as well as a new libero. Surf added SG elites opposite but lost some of their bench from last year, Balboa added OCVC’s middle at the opposite position as well as a new libero, Bay added a few new middles which should be interesting to see. Are you asking about MVVC 18 Red? I'm not too familiar with all their players. Who is the lefty oppo you are referring to?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 15:07:36 GMT -5
Thoughts on MVVC this year? They seem strong adding a lefty on the oppo, as well as a new libero. Surf added SG elites opposite but lost some of their bench from last year, Balboa added OCVC’s middle at the opposite position as well as a new libero, Bay added a few new middles which should be interesting to see. Are you asking about MVVC 18 Red? I'm not too familiar with all their players. Who is the lefty oppo you are referring to? 16 Red. New lefty oppo is new but has potential.
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Post by bealzabubba on Nov 19, 2019 19:19:36 GMT -5
Are you asking about MVVC 18 Red? I'm not too familiar with all their players. Who is the lefty oppo you are referring to? 16 Red. New lefty oppo is new but has potential. Well, that's not good (for the rest of us). The oppos we saw last spring/summer were solid+, but definitely on the smaller side. A few teams were able to take advantage of that, but MVVC was still darned good.
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Post by fandad on Nov 19, 2019 22:43:06 GMT -5
16 Red. New lefty oppo is new but has potential. Well, that's not good (for the rest of us). The oppos we saw last spring/summer were solid+, but definitely on the smaller side. A few teams were able to take advantage of that, but MVVC was still darned good. They also picked up a transfer from last year's Bay to Bay 15-1s that finished T3 in 15 Open at BJNC, Daniel Goncharov who's a former NCVA HP team member. Also wanted to mention that B2B 16-1 team that includes Theo Snoey just moved up to the Silver division in the 17/18 age bracket. Something tells me they would be neck and neck with the MVVC team.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2019 5:25:56 GMT -5
I'm happy to see that the HC doesn't conflict with the championship round of the NCVA Power League this year. In past year's, they were on the same weekend. PacRim, for one, would pull out the Power League so they could play at the HC instead. So the NCVA tournament would lose out on those teams and the HC would lose out on some of the better clubs from NorCal because they would stay home for their area championship. With that being said, the NorCal team to watch for at the HC will be PacRim's U17 team. They currently hold the top spot in the 17/18 age group of Power League over some pretty good 18's teams from Bay to Bay, MVVC, and NCVC. The team features Jordan Ewert's little brother Josh, who is Class of 2022. Completely different team compared to the team they were last year (PacRim 16-1s with only a few returning players), brought down and brought in many new great players. Didn't see that coming in such a short amount of time, one year they are a top team in the USA division then now they are a top team in the Opens... Definitely the team to beat in NCVA, they have a huge hole in the MB2 position, only one solid MB and the other MB got replaced by one of their libs... and sometimes that one outside hitter (Other than Ewert). Seem to be a dominating force in the 17/18s age group however... Intrested in how the coach Roger Worsley is going work with them... Besides that huge hole, they have everything they need, solid liberos, amazing outsides in general (especially Ewert, top of his class) great setter and a hard hitting oppo that has good height. Wonder how their bench plays which seems to be made up of mostly the returning PacRim 16s players from last year, probably still solid as they won 3rd at JO's last year for the USA division. Although they are the top team, would argue that the MVVC 17 Red team and the BaytoBay 17-1s teams are not far off from them as they seemed both just get better, MVVC won 3rd at JO's in 16OPEN and B2B barley missed the gold bracket. They added a lot of solid players to their respective teams (MVVC with a new leftie oppo, seems around 6'5 and B2B bringing new middles in to have a flexible line up) The major 17s teams from NCVA seem to be pretty solid and think are going to make a statement at HC
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2019 5:30:22 GMT -5
B2B had the singularly most impressive player (to me) in 15s last year (Snoey), and were a very good team. MVVC? Who're they? . Thoughts on MVVC this year? They seem strong adding a lefty on the oppo, as well as a new libero. Surf added SG elites opposite but lost some of their bench from last year, Balboa added OCVC’s middle at the opposite position as well as a new libero, Bay added a few new middles which should be interesting to see. MVVC seems to have only have continued to grow since last year, probably because they had a disappointing run at JO's after winning the West Coast Classics for the 15 Open division. Watched the new B2B 16-1s this year... Snoey and Duross seemed to be getting better, haven't really seen their new players play much... That one outside on MVVC 16 Red, Patrick Kane, going to be a force in the 16 Open this year. Jumps out the gym and hits harder than most 17s players. Wonder where he is going to go for college later on.
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Post by bealzabubba on Nov 22, 2019 15:22:46 GMT -5
For those interested, I updated the registration chart in the first post. Normal registration closes today (11-22-19), so this should be fairly representative of the final tourney.
The percentages between Open & USA seem fairly consistent across the divisions - basically, between 60-65% go for USA.
15's are now at 10 open teams, with one team I don't think belongs, candidly. I'm not sure how well that will work out.
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Post by westcoastbias on Nov 22, 2019 17:24:45 GMT -5
15's are now at 10 open teams, with one team I don't think belongs, candidly. I'm not sure how well that will work out. This is disappointing... where's Bay 2 Bay??
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Post by bealzabubba on Nov 22, 2019 18:02:42 GMT -5
15's are now at 10 open teams, with one team I don't think belongs, candidly. I'm not sure how well that will work out. This is disappointing... where's Bay 2 Bay?? Looking at the registrations now: B2B is going to JBI and Chicago. These are the Norcal teams coming, again as of this morning (Core 16 is now listed as "dropped," but included in #'s in the first post): MVVC 16 Red 16Open Pacific Rim 16-1 16Open Pacific Rim 16-2 16USA EBVA 17-1 17Open Pacific Rim 17-1 17Open Core Boys 18 Black 18USA Core Boys 18 Elite 18USA Pacific Rim 18 Orange 18USA (I just cut/paste the teams from AES into excel, so it's really simple to figure this stuff out in <1 minute).
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Post by bealzabubba on Dec 5, 2019 17:33:08 GMT -5
Bringing the back to the first page, on a note I'd totally forgotten (or never knew, b/c it wouldn't have applied to the division I was most interested in):
HC didn't have the Open/USA divisions, in any age group, last year.
Given the "3 day tourney in 2 days" format, this year's HC looks like it's going to be absolutely brutal and unforgiving in Open, in every age division.
Which is exactly what any team with competitive aspirations should want.
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Post by KPI on Dec 10, 2019 1:32:51 GMT -5
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Post by westcoastbias on Dec 10, 2019 11:47:37 GMT -5
Doesn't appear they've factored in this weekend's SCVA matches, at least in some divisions - don't get too attached, changes are definitely coming...
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Post by bealzabubba on Dec 10, 2019 12:22:31 GMT -5
Doesn't appear they've factored in this weekend's SCVA matches, at least in some divisions - don't get too attached, changes are definitely coming... For 15s/16s: the seeds match the draw standings after Points 1. (ETA - 15s don't match) It's close for 17s and 18s, but ... there are some variations. You can see my the rankings based upon the Points 2 draw (so, after Points 1) for all divisions, if you're interested, here: volleytalk.proboards.com/post/2256255/threadFWIW: I think they got MVVC 16s right (3rd overall), and I'm glad they didn't homer 'em. The other out of area teams 16s (Fear, Prestige, Pac Rim) are a bit too low based on my analysis (which matters naught to anyone but me, obviously). I *think* i recall teamjess telling me at one point they didn't consider the last points before a major tourney, although that may have just been for WCC. ETA: The USA divisions look fun - a quick look at 16s/15s, and I honestly can't pick pool winners for most of R1, even though I've seen a lot of the teams. All of the Open division are brutal.
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Post by teamjess on Dec 10, 2019 12:28:56 GMT -5
Doesn't appear they've factored in this weekend's SCVA matches, at least in some divisions - don't get too attached, changes are definitely coming... For 15s/16s: the seeds match the draw standings after Points 1. It's close for 17s and 18s, but ... there are some variations. You can see my the rankings based upon the Points 2 draw (so, after Points 1) for all divisions, if you're interested, here: volleytalk.proboards.com/post/2256255/threadFWIW: I think they got MVVC 16s right (3rd overall), and I'm glad they didn't homer 'em. The other out of area teams 16s (Fear, Prestige, Pac Rim) are a bit too low based on my analysis (which matters naught to anyone but me, obviously). I *think* i recall teamjess telling me at one point they didn't consider the last points before a major tourney, although that may have just been for WCC. ETA: The USA divisions look fun - a quick look at 16s/15s, and I honestly can't pick pool winners for most of R1, even though I've seen a lot of the teams. All of the Open division are brutal. It seems like if my memory serves me well - they mostlty have not figured in the most recent points tournaments when doing the seeding for the big tournaments. I have no idea why, and if they plan to continue that pattern but I don't see them making any changes to their seeds purely based on that - unless a "club with influence" is really seeded too low and they protest (IDK if that ever works or if it even happens - but I have seen them change the seedings when they have seeded out of the area teams too low initially)
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