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Post by donnyb on Nov 22, 2019 12:09:14 GMT -5
On the SANDCAST podcast Theo mentioned he was waiting to see what happens with Casey and chase. Seems he knew something was about to happen. Maybe Theo and Casey?
Not really sure why chase would leave Casey next year. I could see after the Olympic qualification was over to try and get Taylor was r maybe even tri. At this point they seemed to have pretty good success I’m sure sure reid is ant better then Casey. I think Reid is better when he’s hot but Casey is pretty steady
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Post by ajm on Nov 22, 2019 15:03:09 GMT -5
Well, he has to take what’s available and I suspect Chaim is the best option until after Olympic qualifying. Do we even know that Reid wants to continue with the beach? Seems like his main goal was Tokyo. If that’s off the table maybe he’s done. There's no reason Reid should stop playing internationally as he remains plenty potent, Reid and Chase would be a combination that could fare decently on the FIVB. Making money playing this game is still a good enough reason to play for Reid even without his Olympic goal. Reid hasn’t given up on 2020 yet. http://instagram.com/p/B3sfNhvlyjq |
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Post by guest2 on Nov 22, 2019 15:36:10 GMT -5
There's no reason Reid should stop playing internationally as he remains plenty potent, Reid and Chase would be a combination that could fare decently on the FIVB. Making money playing this game is still a good enough reason to play for Reid even without his Olympic goal. Reid hasn’t given up on 2020 yet. http://instagr.am/p/B3sfNhvlyjq Could have done without the TED talk. I wonder if a team came together and blew their compatriots out of the water in 10 events, but had fewer points because of a lack of 5 and 4 star chances, would USAV consider making an adjustment. (Say Larsen/Hughes won three 4 stars but still trailed in points for example) |
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Post by Wahinevball1234 on Nov 23, 2019 16:30:42 GMT -5
Could have done without the TED talk. I wonder if a team came together and blew their compatriots out of the water in 10 events, but had fewer points because of a lack of 5 and 4 star chances, would USAV consider making an adjustment. (Say Larsen/Hughes won three 4 stars but still trailed in points for example) No way would USAV make this adjustment. |
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Post by guest2 on Nov 23, 2019 17:02:10 GMT -5
Looks like Iran should have a good turnout this year
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Post by ajm on Nov 26, 2019 11:22:48 GMT -5
Tri mentioned on last week’s Sandcast that he’s hearing rumors that several scheduled FIVB events may be downgraded or canceled. That will likely affect the teams who are still in the Olympic race.
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Post by dunninla3 on Nov 26, 2019 15:36:03 GMT -5
Tri mentioned on last week’s Sandcast that he’s hearing rumors that several scheduled FIVB events may be downgraded or canceled. That will likely affect the teams who are still in the Olympic race. I can see how that could happen. As I understand it, the FIVB entertains bids to hold tournaments at each venue. If a city has bid, and the FIVB accepts, but then has difficulty following through (for financial, political, whatever reason) with that bid, the event would be need to be cancelled. I don't think the FIVB is able to self fund events. One would hope that the FIVB would require a tournament host to put up a financial deposit to avoid such circumstances, but when you have hat in hand, it's hard to have too many requirements. I would assume the "downgrading" pertains to the host being unable to come up with the sufficient prize money required of that tournament's * tier. 4*, with $20,000 1st place winnings, gets downgraded to 3* with $10,000 winnings, if the host turns out not to be able to come up with 4* payout. Similarly, the Italy 5* for first week of June could downgrade from 5* payout of $30,000 to the winner, to 4*. I infer from all of this that the FIVB may have overplayed its hand in the Fall, when they were accepting bids for 2020. They may have lowered the vetting requirements and bet that each host would be able to come through when in fact they knew there was a good possibility of some defaults. The question remains why the FIVB would take the PR risk of publishing a calendar that was in truth a hopeful projection, and not firmed up or guaranteed. |
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Post by dunninla3 on Nov 26, 2019 15:49:25 GMT -5
Tri mentioned on last week’s Sandcast that he’s hearing rumors that several scheduled FIVB events may be downgraded or canceled. That will likely affect the teams who are still in the Olympic race. If there are cancellations/downgrades, I don't think it greatly affects any USA team other then those who are very far behind, such as Flint/Day, Hughes/Cannon, Reid+? For all those teams that are essentially in a tie going into 2020, whether there ae 10 or 7 tournaments doesn't change the fact that one of the women's teams has to outplay the two other contenders for that second spot, or that two of the three men's teams has to outplay the third, no matter how many tournaments. What this WOULD do is increase the entrants of any AVP events that are planned concurrent with an FIVB event that is cancelled/downgraded. Downgrades/cancellations would also make it that much more difficult for some teams to make a living of playing volleyball. The same time, effort and expenses are involved in a 4* that downgrades to 3*, than if it remained a 4*. Earnings would simply be cut in half in those cases for the same level of performance. |
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Post by guest2 on Nov 26, 2019 18:26:59 GMT -5
Tri mentioned on last week’s Sandcast that he’s hearing rumors that several scheduled FIVB events may be downgraded or canceled. That will likely affect the teams who are still in the Olympic race. If there are cancellations/downgrades, I don't think it greatly affects any USA team other then those who are very far behind, such as Flint/Day, Hughes/Cannon, Reid+? For all those teams that are essentially in a tie going into 2020, whether there ae 10 or 7 tournaments doesn't change the fact that one of the women's teams has to outplay the two other contenders for that second spot, or that two of the three men's teams has to outplay the third, no matter how many tournaments. What this WOULD do is increase the entrants of any AVP events that are planned concurrent with an FIVB event that is cancelled/downgraded. Downgrades/cancellations would also make it that much more difficult for some teams to make a living of playing volleyball. The same time, effort and expenses are involved in a 4* that downgrades to 3*, than if it remained a 4*. Earnings would simply be cut in half in those cases for the same level of performance. I think it makes it a little harder for upsets. One crash and burn in a 5 star, coupled with another team lucking into a podium finish, can be a monumental swing. Same results in a 4 matter much less and so require a team to more consistently outperform their peers |
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Post by butteryhands on Nov 26, 2019 18:53:03 GMT -5
How did the men's thread get taken over by women's related stuff?
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Post by 405LAX on Nov 26, 2019 19:10:55 GMT -5
How did the men's thread get taken over by women's related stuff? I had to double take to make sure I didn't send this. |
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Post by boysbeachvolleyball on Nov 28, 2019 15:47:13 GMT -5
A new team would have to also get through country quotas and qualifiers, before they record all those top finishes. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible unless injuries provide an opening to a Norceca path.
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Post by guest2 on Nov 28, 2019 15:51:07 GMT -5
A new team would have to also get through country quotas and qualifiers, before they record all those top finishes. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible unless injuries provide an opening to a Norceca path. If a new team were good enough to get those finishes they would roll through the CQs. Of course if we had a team with that ability they would have long since teamed up |
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Post by COVAlove on Nov 29, 2019 17:44:10 GMT -5
First domino falls...
Troy Field and Casey Patterson teaming up starting immediately.
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Post by COVAlove on Nov 29, 2019 17:46:41 GMT -5
Also Chaim-Chase confirmed.
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