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Post by ironhammer on Dec 1, 2019 13:26:24 GMT -5
So tell me, which is the "tougher" sport (as in harder to play, more demanding on the athlete's skills and fitness, etc), football or rugby?
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Post by XAsstCoach on Dec 1, 2019 21:07:58 GMT -5
Rugby
1. Not many breaks...just run run run
2. No protective gear, so the tackler has to balance the takedown with their own safety
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 1, 2019 22:19:01 GMT -5
Rugby 1. Not many breaks...just run run run 2. No protective gear, so the tackler has to balance the takedown with their own safety So rugby requires greater stamina? |
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 2, 2019 0:06:30 GMT -5
So tell me, which is the "tougher" sport (as in harder to play, more demanding on the athlete's skills and fitness, etc), football or rugby? The answer depends on which side of the Atlantic you happen to be on. |
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Post by XAsstCoach on Dec 2, 2019 5:22:16 GMT -5
Rugby 1. Not many breaks...just run run run 2. No protective gear, so the tackler has to balance the takedown with their own safety So rugby requires greater stamina? Yes, I do. I thought about this while watching Rugby when I had satellite tv, and while they have substitutions and all, they don't necessarily have an offensive line and defensive line. I just looked it up, and each team has 15 players on the field with 7 substitutes. That's all for running back and forth throughout each half. Also, while they have to consider their own safety when tackling the opponent because there are no protective pads, it can get quite violent in a pile up and whether it gets out of control depends on the official clearing the pile out fast or not. I think with the protective pads the football players at times goes all out when tackling the opponent. I've also not seen any more injuries on field in rugby on one match compared to one football game...I would venture to say less even. New Zealand All Black is my favorite...not only because they're one of the best if not THE best, but I love the Haka that they do before each match. Its more intimidating when you have a line of beefed up Maori players doing the Haka, but I've seen ones where they have the token skinny white European on the team and that just doesn't have the same intimidation factor. |
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 2, 2019 7:02:38 GMT -5
So rugby requires greater stamina? Yes, I do. I thought about this while watching Rugby when I had satellite tv, and while they have substitutions and all, they don't necessarily have an offensive line and defensive line. I just looked it up, and each team has 15 players on the field with 7 substitutes. That's all for running back and forth throughout each half. Also, while they have to consider their own safety when tackling the opponent because there are no protective pads, it can get quite violent in a pile up and whether it gets out of control depends on the official clearing the pile out fast or not. I think with the protective pads the football players at times goes all out when tackling the opponent. I've also not seen any more injuries on field in rugby on one match compared to one football game...I would venture to say less even. New Zealand All Black is my favorite...not only because they're one of the best if not THE best, but I love the Haka that they do before each match. Its more intimidating when you have a line of beefed up Maori players doing the Haka, but I've seen ones where they have the token skinny white European on the team and that just doesn't have the same intimidation factor. It's funny, I heard somewhere that pound for pound, football players are generally bigger than rugby players, not sure if that is true or not. Yup, rugby is a culture in New Zealand like soccer is to Brazil or hockey for Canada. I wonder if any rugby players have ever made the transition to the NFL and what was that like? |
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 2, 2019 7:03:14 GMT -5
So tell me, which is the "tougher" sport (as in harder to play, more demanding on the athlete's skills and fitness, etc), football or rugby? The answer depends on which side of the Atlantic you happen to be on. Make that the Pacific too, Fiji and Samoa are really into rugby as well. |
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Post by XAsstCoach on Dec 2, 2019 9:43:27 GMT -5
It's funny, I heard somewhere that pound for pound, football players are generally bigger than rugby players, not sure if that is true or not. Yup, rugby is a culture in New Zealand like soccer is to Brazil or hockey for Canada. I wonder if any rugby players have ever made the transition to the NFL and what was that like? I wouldn’t doubt, and I would guess most of the largest rugby players are more like tight ends or slightly bigger. Big, but hosses like the offensive or defensive front lines centers nor nose tackles. Mainly because they need to move up and down field with the ball. Here’s an interesting article that compares an NFL team with NZ All Blacks: bleacherreport.com/articles/2246999-if-nfl-players-played-for-usa-rugby-would-all-blacks-still-be-king |
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 2, 2019 23:29:46 GMT -5
Has anyone tried playing both sports?
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Post by jayj79 on Dec 3, 2019 0:24:29 GMT -5
Has anyone tried playing both sports? I assume you mean on the professional level? There are plenty of people who have played football (in high school or whatever) then joined a rugby club or team later on. I played football when I was younger (though not very well), and joined the rugby club for a year or two when I was in college (but again, was never very good at it) |
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 3, 2019 1:56:47 GMT -5
I've tried playing neither sport. That's almost the same thing, right?
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 3, 2019 7:47:30 GMT -5
Has anyone tried playing both sports? I assume you mean on the professional level? There are plenty of people who have played football (in high school or whatever) then joined a rugby club or team later on. I played football when I was younger (though not very well), and joined the rugby club for a year or two when I was in college (but again, was never very good at it) Yes, I don't recall any former rugby players in the NFL...or is not the case? |
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Post by cindra on Dec 3, 2019 9:47:09 GMT -5
I assume you mean on the professional level? There are plenty of people who have played football (in high school or whatever) then joined a rugby club or team later on. I played football when I was younger (though not very well), and joined the rugby club for a year or two when I was in college (but again, was never very good at it) Yes, I don't recall any former rugby players in the NFL...or is not the case? Lot of former Australian rules football players punting college or the NFL these days. AFL allows punting while rugby players have to drop kick it, so the skills transfer more easily. Jordan Mailata is an Australian rugby player that was drafted in the 7th round in 2018 by the eagles to play OT. He made the roster in 2018 but didn't play, and is currently on IR. Probably the transfer that made the most noise recently. He's a beast. 6'8" 350 and fast. His highlights from rugby are insane. Nate Ebner of the Patriots played for the US youth rugby team, then walked on at OSU on his junior year. Continued rugby and played in the 2016 Olympics for the national team. Now is a decent special teamer. Haloti Ngata, formerly an All-Pro with the ravens, won a rugby natty in High School and then stopped rugby to play football full-time at Oregon. David Dixon was a New Zealand youth national team player, then picked up football at ASU in college and went on to play at guard in the NFL. Notably for volleytalk, he is the father of TeTori Dixon of the volleyball WNT. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 3, 2019 13:12:03 GMT -5
Yes, I don't recall any former rugby players in the NFL...or is not the case? Lot of former Australian rules football players punting college or the NFL these days. AFL allows punting while rugby players have to drop kick it, so the skills transfer more easily. Jordan Mailata is an Australian rugby player that was drafted in the 7th round in 2018 by the eagles to play OT. He made the roster in 2018 but didn't play, and is currently on IR. Probably the transfer that made the most noise recently. He's a beast. 6'8" 350 and fast. His highlights from rugby are insane. Nate Ebner of the Patriots played for the US youth rugby team, then walked on at OSU on his junior year. Continued rugby and played in the 2016 Olympics for the national team. Now is a decent special teamer. Haloti Ngata, formerly an All-Pro with the ravens, won a rugby natty in High School and then stopped rugby to play football full-time at Oregon. David Dixon was a New Zealand youth national team player, then picked up football at ASU in college and went on to play at guard in the NFL. Notably for volleytalk, he is the father of TeTori Dixon of the volleyball WNT. You didn't even mention Michael Dickson, who was voted into the Pro Bowl (NFL all-stars) as a rookie, the first time this happened to a punter in the last 35 years. Australian rules football is its own thing, however, neither rugby nor American football. |
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Post by cindra on Dec 3, 2019 13:18:49 GMT -5
Lot of former Australian rules football players punting college or the NFL these days. AFL allows punting while rugby players have to drop kick it, so the skills transfer more easily. Jordan Mailata is an Australian rugby player that was drafted in the 7th round in 2018 by the eagles to play OT. He made the roster in 2018 but didn't play, and is currently on IR. Probably the transfer that made the most noise recently. He's a beast. 6'8" 350 and fast. His highlights from rugby are insane. Nate Ebner of the Patriots played for the US youth rugby team, then walked on at OSU on his junior year. Continued rugby and played in the 2016 Olympics for the national team. Now is a decent special teamer. Haloti Ngata, formerly an All-Pro with the ravens, won a rugby natty in High School and then stopped rugby to play football full-time at Oregon. David Dixon was a New Zealand youth national team player, then picked up football at ASU in college and went on to play at guard in the NFL. Notably for volleytalk, he is the father of TeTori Dixon of the volleyball WNT. You didn't even mention Michael Dickson, who was voted into the Pro Bowl (NFL all-stars) as a rookie, the first time this happened to a punter in the last 35 years. Australian rules football is its own thing, however, neither rugby nor American football. It's still in the same category of "football-like sports," which is why I mentioned it. All of the players I named are former rugby players though. |
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