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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 3, 2019 13:21:57 GMT -5
All of the players I named are former rugby players though. OK, that wasn't clear to me. Makes more sense now that you explained that.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 3, 2019 21:24:21 GMT -5
You didn't even mention Michael Dickson, who was voted into the Pro Bowl (NFL all-stars) as a rookie, the first time this happened to a punter in the last 35 years. Australian rules football is its own thing, however, neither rugby nor American football. It's still in the same category of "football-like sports," which is why I mentioned it. All of the players I named are former rugby players though. Interesting roundabout way to the NFL. Not directly from rugby, but first to Australian football and only then to the NFL.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 3, 2019 21:26:00 GMT -5
I've tried playing neither sport. That's almost the same thing, right? Ha, almost the same thing? I never understood why you aren't allow to make a forward throw/pass with rugby but must do it backwards, that seems like a stupid rule to me.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Dec 3, 2019 22:05:18 GMT -5
I never understood why you aren't allow to make a forward throw/pass with rugby but must do it backwards, that seems like a stupid rule to me. Well, guess you can say its the same with the lateral pass in the NFL. I mean you can only throw it downfield once in a play in the NFL, right? If the running back takes the ball past the line of scrimmage he can only lateral or pass it backwards. In rugby, its all lateral/backward passes and you have to run it forward. There are times they can kick it forward, kind of like a punt, but if their own guy gets to the ball first then they start from there. Speaking of passing, once the ball passes the line of scrimmage, can the offensive team bring it back and try a/another forward pass?
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 3, 2019 22:14:15 GMT -5
I never understood why you aren't allow to make a forward throw/pass with rugby but must do it backwards, that seems like a stupid rule to me. Well, guess you can say its the same with the lateral pass in the NFL. I mean you can only throw it downfield once in a play in the NFL, right? If the running back takes the ball past the line of scrimmage he can only lateral or pass it backwards. In rugby, its all lateral/backward passes and you have to run it forward. There are times they can kick it forward, kind of like a punt, but if their own guy gets to the ball first then they start from there. Speaking of passing, once the ball passes the line of scrimmage, can the offensive team bring it back and try a/another forward pass? Maybe...but still strikes me as silly, haha. That being said, I've seem the 7 men version of rugby, rugby 7. That seems more fun. More breakaway runs to score.
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 3, 2019 22:25:27 GMT -5
I've tried playing neither sport. That's almost the same thing, right? Ha, almost the same thing? I never understood why you aren't allow to make a forward throw/pass with rugby but must do it backwards, that seems like a stupid rule to me. All sports rules are arbitrary. Maybe the least arbitrary is the simple footrace: "let's you and I run to that tree, and the first one to touch it wins".
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 3, 2019 22:27:34 GMT -5
Ha, almost the same thing? I never understood why you aren't allow to make a forward throw/pass with rugby but must do it backwards, that seems like a stupid rule to me. All sports rules are arbitrary.Maybe the least arbitrary is the simple footrace: "let's you and I run to that tree, and the first one to touch it wins". Well, they usually give a reason for it, arbitrary or not. But with rugby's case, I have no idea.
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Post by jayj79 on Dec 4, 2019 1:05:56 GMT -5
what's even sillier are the "eligible receiver" rules in american football.
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 4, 2019 1:35:04 GMT -5
what's even sillier are the "eligible receiver" rules in american football. Those make sense, actually. If the linemen were actually eligible receivers, defending the pass would be essentially impossible. There would just be too many targets to cover. If you've ever played backyard no-rules football, you know the problem.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Dec 4, 2019 1:48:30 GMT -5
What I noticed about rugby was that to score...officially score...you have to touch the ball to the ground in the "endzone". Crossing the line doesn't mean an automatic score, an opponent can still knock it out of your hands. So many times seen the carrier taunt the opponent as they run across the endzone and when they realize they're about to be caught they touch ball to the ground. Dropping it doesn't count, must touch it to the ground.
Most of the time they do the penguin slide in the endzone.
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Post by jayj79 on Dec 4, 2019 1:52:29 GMT -5
What I noticed about rugby was that to score...officially score...you have to touch the ball to the ground in the "endzone". Crossing the line doesn't mean an automatic score, an opponent can still knock it out of your hands. So many times seen the carrier taunt the opponent as they run across the endzone and when they realize they're about to be caught they touch ball to the ground. Dropping it doesn't count, must touch it to the ground. Most of the time they do the penguin slide in the endzone. and the points-after-try is straight out from where ever the ball is touched down. so if you touch it down near the sideline, the kick for extra points is more difficult
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Post by jayj79 on Dec 4, 2019 1:57:31 GMT -5
what's even sillier are the "eligible receiver" rules in american football. Those make sense, actually. If the linemen were actually eligible receivers, defending the pass would be essentially impossible. There would just be too many targets to cover. If you've ever played backyard no-rules football, you know the problem. just make the forward pass illegal like in rugby (or american football pre-1906) and you don't have to worry about that.
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