Post by keeweekid on Dec 3, 2019 17:02:43 GMT -5
Since this is the sllooowwwwww time of VB, thought maybe this would be an interesting thread.
If you could change an AVP/FIVB rule or change the format of a tournament, what would it be and why?
Here are a few of mine.
AVP- adopt whatever the FIVB does for amount of time between when the play is over and when a serve has to be hit
**I like the pace of play better on FIVB and think this is better from a fan watching perspective. AVP, I can get annoyed with how much time is taken to slowly walk over, do glasses, spread out some sand, slowly walk back and serve. I love VB. I can't imagine how sometimes this slow of pace can help attracting casual fans.
AVP- start the "freeze" 1 play later. Start the freeze after the trailing team has a chance to receive serve and get a point via the rally system. If you want closer more exciting endings, the "freeze" starts 1 play too early in my opinion. 13-13 exciting game in the 3rd, one team wins the point and it goes 14-13 and score is frozen. Not fair. Let the team that just scored a point serve, then freeze. Same even if 20-16 in Game 2. Yes, the freeze can add excitement but by putting the freeze in when they do, it is now that much harder for the trailing team to actually comeback
AVP- Put on 1 tournament a year that is different.
do a King/Queen of the Court. I want to see 1 tournament a year without the same 3-5 teams realistically battling it out. Give me a King of the Court tournament where I can see Phil/Jake play together or something I would never ever see.
Or do a blind draw 4 v 4 tournament. Top 10 teams are put in 1 hat and teams 11-20 are put in another hat. Team from each hat is drawn and they are a team of 4 for the entirety of the tournament. Watching the McKibbins 4v4 video was some exciting vb as more rallies vs traditional 2-man where the point is more often than not over quick. Or same concept where you put the "blockers" from each qualifying team in a hat, the "defenders" in a hat and you draw for partners in a 2 v 2. AVP points of each person is quickly tabulated to come up with overall team points and teams are seeded accordingly.
FIVB: Fix your playoff bracket draws. They are stupid and often super lopsided...Claes is basically in the Olympic hunt due to lopsided brackets. I want to see the best teams playing in the semis/finals. I think that they should put the non-winners (2nd & 3rd place finishers) into the bracket like they normally do (which I actually have no idea how they do). But, for the winners of the brackets, let's say 8 teams, the teams get to pick where they want to be placed in the draw. Let's say the 3 seed loses in pool and is put in the top part of the bracket where if they win, they would then play the top seed. Sucks for the 1 seed and put 2 top seeds against each other early on...plus how is that a reward to the 1 seed. Take the 8 pool winners and sort them by seed. Let's say the pool winners were the 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 13, 23, & 28 seed. Whoever is the top seed, gets to pick where they want to be put in the bracket once they see where the 2nd/3rd place finishers from pool are put. In this case, the 1 seed gets to pick where they want to be put in the bracket (anywhere). Next up the 3 seed but they have to choose the opposite bracket as where the 1 seed went but they can choose anywhere they want in that bracket. So if 1 seed chose bottom part of bracket, 3 seed can choose anywhere in top part of bracket. 5 seed next up, they can choose anyhwere. 9 seed has to choose opposite bracket as 5 seed...and so on and so on. 28 seed ends up in the last open spot. Sounds complicated but should be easy to do.
FIVB: If a team wins their pool, they should get some points winning the pool. Let's say 20 points. Currently, a team that wins pool, but loses their round of 16 match-up went 2-1 for the weekend. A team that finishes 2nd in pool (1-1), wins their round of 24 match-up but then loses in round of 16 goes 3-2 for the weekend but both walk with the same amount of points. Seems a team should get some nominal points for winning pool.
AVP/FIVB: introduce some stats during play. Put a small flag in the corner of your screen that shows wind direction and wind speed every now and then. Introduce some stats during the flow of a game that says, Jake has been served X% of the time, Taylor Y%. Show a graphic of where he is hitting Left, middle, right and short cut shot. Kind of like they do with QB's where they show the areas the QB is throwing to more often. Side out %... ESPN is showing poker on TV of all things. All because of the drama and the %'s that they show.
AVP/FIVB: Put more mic's on the court. Was fun to hear Ed play it up to the mic on the court. I want to hear some Trevor/Taylor trash talk. Granted, you probably couldn't have these mic's "live" but you could play back some action...or keep mic's live but put in a language rule (see Jeremy Casebeer). I almost think they should do this anyhow as AVP is targeting families and not sure if Mom & Dad want there little ones watching a Jeremy match where he seems to drop an obscenity every other point.
Ok, what would you do if you were in charge and could switch things up on the AVP/FIVB??
If you could change an AVP/FIVB rule or change the format of a tournament, what would it be and why?
Here are a few of mine.
AVP- adopt whatever the FIVB does for amount of time between when the play is over and when a serve has to be hit
**I like the pace of play better on FIVB and think this is better from a fan watching perspective. AVP, I can get annoyed with how much time is taken to slowly walk over, do glasses, spread out some sand, slowly walk back and serve. I love VB. I can't imagine how sometimes this slow of pace can help attracting casual fans.
AVP- start the "freeze" 1 play later. Start the freeze after the trailing team has a chance to receive serve and get a point via the rally system. If you want closer more exciting endings, the "freeze" starts 1 play too early in my opinion. 13-13 exciting game in the 3rd, one team wins the point and it goes 14-13 and score is frozen. Not fair. Let the team that just scored a point serve, then freeze. Same even if 20-16 in Game 2. Yes, the freeze can add excitement but by putting the freeze in when they do, it is now that much harder for the trailing team to actually comeback
AVP- Put on 1 tournament a year that is different.
do a King/Queen of the Court. I want to see 1 tournament a year without the same 3-5 teams realistically battling it out. Give me a King of the Court tournament where I can see Phil/Jake play together or something I would never ever see.
Or do a blind draw 4 v 4 tournament. Top 10 teams are put in 1 hat and teams 11-20 are put in another hat. Team from each hat is drawn and they are a team of 4 for the entirety of the tournament. Watching the McKibbins 4v4 video was some exciting vb as more rallies vs traditional 2-man where the point is more often than not over quick. Or same concept where you put the "blockers" from each qualifying team in a hat, the "defenders" in a hat and you draw for partners in a 2 v 2. AVP points of each person is quickly tabulated to come up with overall team points and teams are seeded accordingly.
FIVB: Fix your playoff bracket draws. They are stupid and often super lopsided...Claes is basically in the Olympic hunt due to lopsided brackets. I want to see the best teams playing in the semis/finals. I think that they should put the non-winners (2nd & 3rd place finishers) into the bracket like they normally do (which I actually have no idea how they do). But, for the winners of the brackets, let's say 8 teams, the teams get to pick where they want to be placed in the draw. Let's say the 3 seed loses in pool and is put in the top part of the bracket where if they win, they would then play the top seed. Sucks for the 1 seed and put 2 top seeds against each other early on...plus how is that a reward to the 1 seed. Take the 8 pool winners and sort them by seed. Let's say the pool winners were the 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 13, 23, & 28 seed. Whoever is the top seed, gets to pick where they want to be put in the bracket once they see where the 2nd/3rd place finishers from pool are put. In this case, the 1 seed gets to pick where they want to be put in the bracket (anywhere). Next up the 3 seed but they have to choose the opposite bracket as where the 1 seed went but they can choose anywhere they want in that bracket. So if 1 seed chose bottom part of bracket, 3 seed can choose anywhere in top part of bracket. 5 seed next up, they can choose anyhwere. 9 seed has to choose opposite bracket as 5 seed...and so on and so on. 28 seed ends up in the last open spot. Sounds complicated but should be easy to do.
FIVB: If a team wins their pool, they should get some points winning the pool. Let's say 20 points. Currently, a team that wins pool, but loses their round of 16 match-up went 2-1 for the weekend. A team that finishes 2nd in pool (1-1), wins their round of 24 match-up but then loses in round of 16 goes 3-2 for the weekend but both walk with the same amount of points. Seems a team should get some nominal points for winning pool.
AVP/FIVB: introduce some stats during play. Put a small flag in the corner of your screen that shows wind direction and wind speed every now and then. Introduce some stats during the flow of a game that says, Jake has been served X% of the time, Taylor Y%. Show a graphic of where he is hitting Left, middle, right and short cut shot. Kind of like they do with QB's where they show the areas the QB is throwing to more often. Side out %... ESPN is showing poker on TV of all things. All because of the drama and the %'s that they show.
AVP/FIVB: Put more mic's on the court. Was fun to hear Ed play it up to the mic on the court. I want to hear some Trevor/Taylor trash talk. Granted, you probably couldn't have these mic's "live" but you could play back some action...or keep mic's live but put in a language rule (see Jeremy Casebeer). I almost think they should do this anyhow as AVP is targeting families and not sure if Mom & Dad want there little ones watching a Jeremy match where he seems to drop an obscenity every other point.
Ok, what would you do if you were in charge and could switch things up on the AVP/FIVB??