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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 30, 2019 16:01:06 GMT -5
Truth is SDSU has not lived up to its potential and appeal. If they get the right coach it has top 25 written all over it. Athletes will come to the school. You’re really overestimating that job or underestimating how hard it is to be top 25. Look at the many schools in California who aren’t who have way better education, reputations, campuses.......
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 30, 2019 16:05:46 GMT -5
If the only thing stopping him from taking other jobs was not wanting to leave San Diego, it's a possibility. They show no signs of potential to be a top tier program. Why would he move down the street to compete head to head with his partner the last 18 years or so, at s school that historically can't compete? Throw in the fact that UCSD comes online next year and is instantly more desirable, and it is a non-starter for him. I can't believe that they have the kind of cash or resources to make a mediocre job worth the move. You are talking about a school that has 1 D1 championship in their entire history and they cut that program. SDSU is 10x the athletics brand USD is, but a good staff has kept USD competitive for 2 decades plus. If Brent is hankering for a chance to be the head coach and see what he can do, but doesn't want to leave the city, this could be the best fit.
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Post by Word on Dec 30, 2019 16:06:20 GMT -5
I think a lot of you are both right and wrong. SDSU has the potential to make a run at the top 25 in a special year (a couple good recruiting classes in a row as juniors/seniors). They likely aren't going to be perennial top 25 as that's only for 10-15 programs to do on a yearly basis.
That said, there shouldn't be a shortage of highly qualified program changing coaches who would be interested in it. While the money won't be top notch, it is a place that should be easy to make a positive change and improve the overall program outcomes.
Question I would be curious is if they want to hire a woman having lost a female coach (like Fullerton wanted), or will it be who they like best?
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Post by dunninla3 on Dec 30, 2019 16:21:45 GMT -5
SDSU, as I posted over in a completely different thread, is a pretty good school. 3.7 ave. freshman GPA. Very good accounting and business programs. Not many graduate programs but I don't think that matters to undergraduate athletes.
It's kind of like an "almost UC", but more fun in some ways. Really nice campus, and San Diego is a pretty cool place to go to college. It's interesting that the students at UCSD typically drive the 20 minutes to go SDSU for parties, since UCSD is such a dead campus.
The recruiting parallel would be women's softball. SDSU has made the NCAA tournament a bunch of times, but not every year. They tend to hover in the 40-50 ranking in RPI. I would expect SDSU volleyball to eventually occupy that sort of space. In softball, as probably in Volleyball, the first picks would be PAC10 -- UCLA, Oregon, UDub, UofA, ASU, Cal, Stanford for academic reasons though not for softball reasons, then a drop down some to OSU and Utah. Then about half the SEC schools, three or four Big12 schools, some ACC schools, three or four B1G schools (but crappy weather hurts that), and FINALLY to SDSU, Cal Poly, LBSU, Fullerton, and such.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Dec 30, 2019 16:28:10 GMT -5
With Ricci there, UCSD wasn’t and isn’t an option for Brent. Ricci hasn't been tearing it up in D2. He’s had a lot of success at UCSD, but has hovered around .500 recently. But UCSD wants him managing the transition to the Big West, and he’s going to get a long leash.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 30, 2019 16:32:31 GMT -5
You’re really overestimating that job or underestimating how hard it is to be top 25. Look at the many schools in California who aren’t who have way better education, reputations, campuses....... You mean USC and UCLA who are not top 25 anymore? And Pepperdine, Cal, Santa Clara......
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Post by trojansc on Dec 30, 2019 16:50:57 GMT -5
You mean USC and UCLA who are not top 25 anymore? And Pepperdine, Cal, Santa Clara...... I think Santa Clara finds a way into the tournament next year!
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Post by bayarea on Dec 30, 2019 17:05:32 GMT -5
SDSU, as I posted over in a completely different thread, is a pretty good school. 3.7 ave. freshman GPA. Very good accounting and business programs. Not many graduate programs but I don't think that matters to undergraduate athletes. It's kind of like an "almost UC", but more fun in some ways. Really nice campus, and San Diego is a pretty cool place to go to college. It's interesting that the students at UCSD typically drive the 20 minutes to go SDSU for parties, since UCSD is such a dead campus. The recruiting parallel would be women's softball. SDSU has made the NCAA tournament a bunch of times, but not every year. They tend to hover in the 40-50 ranking in RPI. I would expect SDSU volleyball to eventually occupy that sort of space. In softball, as probably in Volleyball, the first picks would be PAC10 -- UCLA, Oregon, UDub, UofA, ASU, Cal, Stanford for academic reasons though not for softball reasons, then a drop down some to OSU and Utah. Then about half the SEC schools, three or four Big12 schools, some ACC schools, three or four B1G schools (but crappy weather hurts that), and FINALLY to SDSU, Cal Poly, LBSU, Fullerton, and such. Did you mean to omit every WCC school on your way down to "Fullerton and such"? Hahaha
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Post by trojansc on Dec 30, 2019 17:12:10 GMT -5
SDSU, as I posted over in a completely different thread, is a pretty good school. 3.7 ave. freshman GPA. Very good accounting and business programs. Not many graduate programs but I don't think that matters to undergraduate athletes. It's kind of like an "almost UC", but more fun in some ways. Really nice campus, and San Diego is a pretty cool place to go to college. It's interesting that the students at UCSD typically drive the 20 minutes to go SDSU for parties, since UCSD is such a dead campus. The recruiting parallel would be women's softball. SDSU has made the NCAA tournament a bunch of times, but not every year. They tend to hover in the 40-50 ranking in RPI. I would expect SDSU volleyball to eventually occupy that sort of space. In softball, as probably in Volleyball, the first picks would be PAC10 -- UCLA, Oregon, UDub, UofA, ASU, Cal, Stanford for academic reasons though not for softball reasons, then a drop down some to OSU and Utah. Then about half the SEC schools, three or four Big12 schools, some ACC schools, three or four B1G schools (but crappy weather hurts that), and FINALLY to SDSU, Cal Poly, LBSU, Fullerton, and such. Did you mean to omit every WCC school on your way down to "Fullerton and such"? Hahaha I think he’s talking about softball still— which is a way different animal than volleyball. The WCC has only like half of their teams in the league and most are not good every year with the exception of BYU and LMU. CSUF however— is good every year. Recruiting is very different there and can’t be paralleled here to volleyball.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Dec 30, 2019 17:14:11 GMT -5
Lots of famous athletes are SDSU alums including my friend 1 Chris Marlowe. ---- 1 When I say "my friend," I mean I met him and talked to him once. Marlowe, Marshall Faulk and Kawhi. That is about it. Mens vb won their sole championship and they cut the program. Tony Gwynn, the greatest Aztec of all. Stephen Strasburg. Does Johnny Hyden count as famous? But that’s about all I got.
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Post by bayarea on Dec 30, 2019 17:25:10 GMT -5
Did you mean to omit every WCC school on your way down to "Fullerton and such"? Hahaha I think he’s talking about softball still— which is a way different animal than volleyball. The WCC has only like half of their teams in the league and most are not good every year with the exception of BYU and LMU. CSUF however— is good every year. Recruiting is very different there and can’t be paralleled here to volleyball. I should improve my skim-reading. Thanks.
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Post by Mocha on Dec 30, 2019 17:31:57 GMT -5
This year SDSU had the distinction of being the first school to claim the postseason MVP in two major sports; Kawhi Leonard in the NBA, Stephen Strasburg in Major League Baseball.
Of course, how that applies to the volleyball program, I have no idea. 😳
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Post by 642fiddi on Dec 30, 2019 18:34:50 GMT -5
Tony Gwynn, the greatest Aztec of all. Stephen Strasburg. Does Johnny Hyden count as famous? But that’s about all I got. Forgot all about Gwynn. He was a pretty good point guard in his skinny days. He never had a skinny day.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Dec 30, 2019 18:51:59 GMT -5
Tony Gwynn, the greatest Aztec of all. Stephen Strasburg. Does Johnny Hyden count as famous? But that’s about all I got. Forgot all about Gwynn. He was a pretty good point guard in his skinny days. Fun fact: Gwynn walked on the baseball team his sophomore year. Worked out OK.
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Post by beachdude on Dec 30, 2019 19:21:09 GMT -5
Brent Hillard will get this job.
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