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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jan 12, 2020 11:58:05 GMT -5
Oh man, the Special Editions. Smh.
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Post by nowhereman on Jan 15, 2020 18:51:37 GMT -5
I said in another thread that they should put the franchise in frozen carbonite permanently. I stand by that opinion and am ready to move on to other genres... Hitchock, Best Pictures from the 1950s..... I once used to only have the original Star Wars Trilogy, Indana Jones and the Sound of Music so I'd like to think I've become a lot more open minded about movies..... Changing it to Greedo shooting first soured ya, didn't it? Good one. I don't remember seeing the special edition of the original Star Wars and if I did I didn't remember that Greedo shot first. But yes the "revised" versions definitely left a lot to be desired. Not to hijack this thread but in chronological order I have the following lined up. Eventually I will get to them. Wizard Of OZ (1939) Psycho (1960) West Side Story (1961) the Birds (1963) Goldfinger (1964)
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Post by BearClause on Jan 15, 2020 21:59:21 GMT -5
Changing it to Greedo shooting first soured ya, didn't it? Good one. I don't remember seeing the special edition of the original Star Wars and if I did I didn't remember that Greedo shot first. They added some scenes that were originally cut, like the one of Jabba the Hutt meeting with Han. I'd seen stills of that shot years ago but I was under the impression that Jabba was originally a human although some claim it was supposed to be some sort of stand-in for a test filming. But adding the scene of Luke meeting up with his best friend from Tattoine (Biggs) was extremely important to the story and not terribly well explained if one had only watched the movie. I remember listening to the Star Wars radio drama on NPR. That was done using George Lucas's extensive backstory, and they had an extensive plot with Biggs visiting Tattoine after graduating from an Imperial Academy and telling Luke that the first chance he got he intended on joining the Rebellion. Biggs was actually his training officer. However, the originally cut scene in the movie was extremely useful to explain their friendship and kind of explains why he would mention "Beggar's Canyon back home". There were a few mentions of Biggs and I think they might have mentioned his name on the attack on the Death Star, but that was something that wasn't necessarily made clear. All the special effects tinkering was kind of gratiutitous. They really didn't need that.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jan 15, 2020 22:03:50 GMT -5
Mark Hamill played Luke Skywalker as a whiny and annoying doof. However, he grew up to be a fine voice actor (e.g., Batman video game series).
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 15, 2020 23:28:21 GMT -5
I said in another thread that they should put the franchise in frozen carbonite permanently. I stand by that opinion and am ready to move on to other genres... Hitchock, Best Pictures from the 1950s..... I once used to only have the original Star Wars Trilogy, Indana Jones and the Sound of Music so I'd like to think I've become a lot more open minded about movies..... Changing it to Greedo shooting first soured ya, didn't it? This reminds me of a podcast I heard between national sportswriter Joe Posnanski and Parks and Rec creator Michael Schur. They were talking about the Greedo controversy, and Schur made a great point. It wasn't that Han shot first. It's that Han shot only. He shot Greedo, and that was it. Personally, my biggest issue with the revised scene isn't that Greedo shot first. It's that Greedo is allegedly a professional bounty hunter and can't hit a target sitting across a table from him at point blank range. Anyway, Disney is sitting on a gold mine if they just release the "Han Shot Only Edition" (i.e. the original cuts).
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Post by XAsstCoach on Jan 16, 2020 3:01:25 GMT -5
Good one. I don't remember seeing the special edition of the original Star Wars and if I did I didn't remember that Greedo shot first. They added some scenes that were originally cut, like the one of Jabba the Hutt meeting with Han. I'd seen stills of that shot years ago but I was under the impression that Jabba was originally a human although some claim it was supposed to be some sort of stand-in for a test filming. But adding the scene of Luke meeting up with his best friend from Tattoine (Biggs) was extremely important to the story and not terribly well explained if one had only watched the movie. I remember listening to the Star Wars radio drama on NPR. That was done using George Lucas's extensive backstory, and they had an extensive plot with Biggs visiting Tattoine after graduating from an Imperial Academy and telling Luke that the first chance he got he intended on joining the Rebellion. Biggs was actually his training officer. However, the originally cut scene in the movie was extremely useful to explain their friendship and kind of explains why he would mention "Beggar's Canyon back home". There were a few mentions of Biggs and I think they might have mentioned his name on the attack on the Death Star, but that was something that wasn't necessarily made clear. All the special effects tinkering was kind of gratiutitous. They really didn't need that. I kind of like the additional special effects. Kind of takes away from how amazing the originals were, I mean amazing for that time period. But seeing the additional X-Wings approach the Death Star was just awesome! "There were a few mention of Biggs..." You mean in the radio drama?
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jan 16, 2020 20:54:25 GMT -5
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Post by BearClause on Jan 19, 2020 11:55:20 GMT -5
They added some scenes that were originally cut, like the one of Jabba the Hutt meeting with Han. I'd seen stills of that shot years ago but I was under the impression that Jabba was originally a human although some claim it was supposed to be some sort of stand-in for a test filming. But adding the scene of Luke meeting up with his best friend from Tattoine (Biggs) was extremely important to the story and not terribly well explained if one had only watched the movie. I remember listening to the Star Wars radio drama on NPR. That was done using George Lucas's extensive backstory, and they had an extensive plot with Biggs visiting Tattoine after graduating from an Imperial Academy and telling Luke that the first chance he got he intended on joining the Rebellion. Biggs was actually his training officer. However, the originally cut scene in the movie was extremely useful to explain their friendship and kind of explains why he would mention "Beggar's Canyon back home". There were a few mentions of Biggs and I think they might have mentioned his name on the attack on the Death Star, but that was something that wasn't necessarily made clear. All the special effects tinkering was kind of gratiutitous. They really didn't need that. I kind of like the additional special effects. Kind of takes away from how amazing the originals were, I mean amazing for that time period. But seeing the additional X-Wings approach the Death Star was just awesome! "There were a few mention of Biggs..." You mean in the radio drama? The radio drama was based off of Lucas’s original script. And I’m not the biggest Star Wars nut, but I found there were scenes that were filmed but didn’t make the final version that were pretty much what made it to the radio drama. The scene with Biggs that did make it to the SE version wasn’t quite the same. In remember in the radio drama Luke and Biggs met up right after arriving at Yavin. Biggs recommended him to the leader, and when Luke was worried that he didn’t have the piloting experience, Biggs reassured him that he was a better pilot than most of the other pilots in Red Squadron. He also placed Luke in a simulator where he died several times, but with Biggs throwing everything at him. However, the added SE scene had Luke just meeting up with Biggs just before getting in his X-wing. Which didn’t really make much sense because they should have both been in the Death Star briefing.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Mar 6, 2020 4:55:05 GMT -5
Just read a Rey spoiler in the novelization of Rise of the Skywalker to be released next week: Rey is the daughter of a Palpatine clone that was defective, could not absorb all of Palpatine's power yet was able to live and have the lovechild. WTF!!! I think Disney really screwed the pooch on the Skywalker saga. Still, gonna order my copy of the book.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 16:11:08 GMT -5
I don't understand this and none of the articles I've read explained it adequately. I mean, WTH? Are they upset because it's different from the movie's explanation or are they upset because it makes no sense?
Are they blaming the movie?
I don't understand.
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 6, 2020 19:11:12 GMT -5
If Daisy Ridley wasn't so cute, all those movies would have been a total waste of time.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Mar 6, 2020 22:22:18 GMT -5
I don't understand this and none of the articles I've read explained it adequately. I mean, WTH? Are they upset because it's different from the movie's explanation or are they upset because it makes no sense? Are they blaming the movie? I don't understand. I think it’s because it makes no sense. For me it’s really stretching things.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 23:42:04 GMT -5
I really thought Rey was Han and Qi'ra's kid. That would have been interesting. And dramatically satisfying.
Bringing Palpatine back? Just weird. And boring.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Sept 21, 2020 20:37:36 GMT -5
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Post by keener on Sept 21, 2020 22:19:16 GMT -5
CHEWBACCA!
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