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Post by JB Southpaw on Feb 10, 2022 19:55:45 GMT -5
Free housing, Food, clothing and training. Not to mention any NIL deals. They are ahead of the game compared to any "PRO" outside the top 4 teams. Why would they leave?
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Post by burbank55 on Feb 10, 2022 20:45:50 GMT -5
Free housing, Food, clothing and training. Not to mention any NIL deals. They are ahead of the game compared to any "PRO" outside the top 4 teams. Why would they leave? Yeah, exactly. These young women are smartly setting themselves up for their future. At USC, if I’m not mistaken Haley Hallgren and Mollie Ebertin both got their Bachelors after 3 years. Haley even finished her Masters program by the end of her fourth year. USC, total cost before aid is over $80,000/year. Now, I have to point out that there are a limited number of scholarships per school. Some student athletes will have just the free housing, food, clothing and training mentioned above. As JB just pointed out, NIL deals are now allowed and it is now widely accepted that pay for play will be the norm at major collegiate athletics. Beach isn’t there yet, but the big booster money will trickle down to the Olympic sports soon enough. “Texas A&M boosters are rumored to have committed over $25 million to NIL deals to help bolster recruiting, both this year and in the future. “ ”The University of Texas boosters recently set up a program that's paying $50,000 per year to offensive linemen who are on scholarship. It's part of the nonprofit Horns with Heart initiative.” spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2022/01/14/texas-a-m--recruiting--nil
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Post by newbeach on Feb 10, 2022 23:45:13 GMT -5
Free housing, Food, clothing and training. Not to mention any NIL deals. They are ahead of the game compared to any "PRO" outside the top 4 teams. Why would they leave? This is especially true over the last couple of years. Not only did COVID essentially take the 2020 competitive college season, but it also resulted in fewer international events (with a shorter”quad”). With the new tier system, there is a slim chance any new players out of the gate will make the Olympics. Even TKN have said that it’s much harder to get high-level competition in for them, and that they had “way more touches” in college. Would these parents who are complaining because their “child” isn’t getting playing time now, really advise their own daughters to give it all up and go pro during these uncertain times (and have to pay for everything themselves) and not make any money as a new pro? I agree that these players are setting themselves up well now (whether they play pro or not).
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Post by newbeach on Feb 11, 2022 9:16:04 GMT -5
Jacqueline Quade (born 1997 - same year as Scoles and Miric from Cal Poly) was on the UCLA roster last year. Scoles has a medical red shirt due to devastating concussions causing her to miss her sophomore year (indoors). Quade isn’t much different than Scoles, in that they were both cross-overs from indoors born the same year (but Quade couldn’t play any longer because she doesn’t have a medical redshirt). I’m not knocking Quade…I think if she has further beach volleyball aspirations (after her short-lasting indoor debut), was smart to get as much beach experience as she could. Abby Van Winkle is a 22 year old junior (23 this year). If she, for some reason, found herself on a medical redshirt (hoping this never happens!), she could find herself playing at 25. I’m not sure why Abby seems to be older than her peers of the same class (maybe her parents held her back or there was a medical condition when she was young?) whatever the reason, it doesn’t matter, she fits the NCAA eligibility requirements. I think the ones complaining are more from parents whose child isn’t getting the playing time they feel their “child” deserves. Maybe they could benefit from an extra year so they can improve enough to make the top flights or go pro? God-forbid their “child” ever needs a medical redshirt either. volleyballmag.com/julia-scoles-082519/This bears repeating. Scoles started beach volleyball late after she had to quit indoor due to concussions. A medical redshirt is deserved. This makes her a year older than some of her peers (Just as Abby is a year older than some of years and will be 24 years old as a senior). She also started beach volleyball much later than many of the college players right now.
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Post by beachconch on Feb 11, 2022 9:55:23 GMT -5
Jacqueline Quade (born 1997 - same year as Scoles and Miric from Cal Poly) was on the UCLA roster last year. Scoles has a medical red shirt due to devastating concussions causing her to miss her sophomore year (indoors). Quade isn’t much different than Scoles, in that they were both cross-overs from indoors born the same year (but Quade couldn’t play any longer because she doesn’t have a medical redshirt). I’m not knocking Quade…I think if she has further beach volleyball aspirations (after her short-lasting indoor debut), was smart to get as much beach experience as she could. Abby Van Winkle is a 22 year old junior (23 this year). If she, for some reason, found herself on a medical redshirt (hoping this never happens!), she could find herself playing at 25. I’m not sure why Abby seems to be older than her peers of the same class (maybe her parents held her back or there was a medical condition when she was young?) whatever the reason, it doesn’t matter, she fits the NCAA eligibility requirements. I think the ones complaining are more from parents whose child isn’t getting the playing time they feel their “child” deserves. Maybe they could benefit from an extra year so they can improve enough to make the top flights or go pro? God-forbid their “child” ever needs a medical redshirt either. volleyballmag.com/julia-scoles-082519/This bears repeating. Scoles started beach volleyball late after she had to quit indoor due to concussions. A medical redshirt is deserved. This makes her a year older than some of her peers (Just as Abby is a year older than some of years and will be 24 years old as a senior). She also started beach volleyball much later than many of the college players right now. You keep referring to AVW. She’s a 22 yr old senior. If she plays a 5th yr due to Covid, then she’ll play as a 23 yr old.
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Post by newbeach on Feb 11, 2022 12:06:08 GMT -5
volleyballmag.com/julia-scoles-082519/This bears repeating. Scoles started beach volleyball late after she had to quit indoor due to concussions. A medical redshirt is deserved. This makes her a year older than some of her peers (Just as Abby is a year older than some of years and will be 24 years old as a senior). She also started beach volleyball much later than many of the college players right now. You keep referring to AVW. She’s a 22 yr old senior. If she plays a 5th yr due to Covid, then she’ll play as a 23 yr old. She turns 23 this year. She is a junior. And, I don’t “keep referring to her”. I used her as an example that if she were to incur an injury and a medical redshirt like Scoles (and I hope she never does…I like Abby), she could potentially be playing until she is 25. It’s just an example. I am not against any of the UCLA players or anyone else for that matter. I just believe there are some exceptions to why players are older than the peers in their class and COVID has complicated matters further. It is tough on the younger players, but like it or not, the “older” players are still eligible and people will just have to live with it (and stop complaining - like these players should be judged for their choice to continue to play?).
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Post by burbank55 on Feb 11, 2022 13:15:55 GMT -5
volleyballmag.com/julia-scoles-082519/This bears repeating. Scoles started beach volleyball late after she had to quit indoor due to concussions. A medical redshirt is deserved. This makes her a year older than some of her peers (Just as Abby is a year older than some of years and will be 24 years old as a senior). She also started beach volleyball much later than many of the college players right now. You keep referring to AVW. She’s a 22 yr old senior. If she plays a 5th yr due to Covid, then she’ll play as a 23 yr old. We know she’s been in college for four years and this is her fourth year playing, but UCLA is the one classifying her as a Junior due to the COVID 2020 half-campaign not counting. uclabruins.com/sports/womens-beach-volleyball/roster
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Post by beachconch on Feb 11, 2022 16:15:09 GMT -5
You keep referring to AVW. She’s a 22 yr old senior. If she plays a 5th yr due to Covid, then she’ll play as a 23 yr old. We know she’s been in college for four years and this is her fourth year playing, but UCLA is the one classifying her as a Junior due to the COVID 2020 half-campaign not counting. uclabruins.com/sports/womens-beach-volleyball/rosterI fully understand eligibility and classifications. Can we agree she’s a redshirt Junior? I was merely correcting New Beach on AVW’s age. She’s age appropriate for her class/grade. Redshirt Jr - 22yo Redshirt Sr - 23yo
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Post by newbeach on Feb 11, 2022 17:58:01 GMT -5
I fully understand eligibility and classifications. Can we agree she’s a redshirt Junior? I was merely correcting New Beach on AVW’s age. She’s age appropriate for her class/grade. Redshirt Jr - 22yo Redshirt Sr - 23yo I’m not sure I understand what you are correcting? I was merely pointing out that Abby was born in 1999 (she will be 23 this year) and is older than some of her peers (just as Scoles is currently 24 but will be 25 this year). Lindsey Spark who was in the same class was born in 2000. Lea Monkhouse who was born in 1999 is a year ahead of Abby. To be clear, I have not said her age is inappropriate in any way, but rather pointing out that sometimes players are older than others in the same class (for whatever reason).
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Post by sonofdogman on Feb 11, 2022 18:13:09 GMT -5
I've just noticed this is the 2020 thread. Way too old. One of you bruin fans start one for 2022 please before this thread is as old as the athletes' kids.
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Post by burbank55 on Feb 12, 2022 22:06:36 GMT -5
I've just noticed this is the 2020 thread. Way too old. One of you bruin fans start one for 2022 please before this thread is as old as the athletes' kids. Haha, for me as a Trojan fan, it’s humorous. I would have started one for them because it’s so humiliating, but I think there has only been one other UCLA Beach annual thread in the history of the program. Yes, I know collegiate beach is probably only 10-11 years old. So my thinking is the Bruins fans who do show up here are only indoor fans who remember to check Beach VT once a month at best during the season. There just isn’t the representation for a real fan discussion. And really, only the Hawaiians represent well for collegiate beach here. Props to the Rainbow Warriors!
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Post by newbeach on Feb 12, 2022 23:29:29 GMT -5
I've just noticed this is the 2020 thread. Way too old. One of you bruin fans start one for 2022 please before this thread is as old as the athletes' kids. Haha, for me as a Trojan fan, it’s humorous. I would have started one for them because it’s so humiliating, but I think there has only been one other UCLA Beach annual thread in the history of the program. Yes, I know collegiate beach is probably only 10-11 years old. So my thinking is the Bruins fans who do show up here are only indoor fans who remember to check Beach VT once a month at best during the season. There just isn’t the representation for a real fan discussion. And really, only the Hawaiians represent well for collegiate beach here. Props to the Rainbow Warriors! The men’s team are referred to as the Rainbow Warriors. Actually, it’s Rainbow Wahine (indoor) and the Sandbows (Bows for short) for beach. 😉 Mahalo 🤙 Props to both USC and UH for their respective threads! ✌️
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Post by newbeach on Feb 12, 2022 23:32:44 GMT -5
Haha, for me as a Trojan fan, it’s humorous. I would have started one for them because it’s so humiliating, but I think there has only been one other UCLA Beach annual thread in the history of the program. Yes, I know collegiate beach is probably only 10-11 years old. So my thinking is the Bruins fans who do show up here are only indoor fans who remember to check Beach VT once a month at best during the season. There just isn’t the representation for a real fan discussion. And really, only the Hawaiians represent well for collegiate beach here. Props to the Rainbow Warriors! The men’s team are referred to as the Rainbow Warriors. Actually, it’s Rainbow Wahine (indoor) and the Sandbows (Bows for short) for beach. 😉 Mahalo 🤙 Props to both USC and UH for their respective threads! ✌️ Sorry for hijacking UCLA’s thread to explain this.
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Post by david38 on Feb 12, 2022 23:52:14 GMT -5
I've just noticed this is the 2020 thread. Way too old. One of you bruin fans start one for 2022 please before this thread is as old as the athletes' kids. Haha, for me as a Trojan fan, it’s humorous. I would have started one for them because it’s so humiliating, but I think there has only been one other UCLA Beach annual thread in the history of the program. Yes, I know collegiate beach is probably only 10-11 years old. So my thinking is the Bruins fans who do show up here are only indoor fans who remember to check Beach VT once a month at best during the season. There just isn’t the representation for a real fan discussion. And really, only the Hawaiians represent well for collegiate beach here. Props to the Rainbow Warriors! I think I speak for all 5 of us UCLA fans participating on here, as well as anyone who ever pulled on a Bruin jersey in any sport, and those who have brandished a check-signing tuition pen to attend school in Westwood when I say...pulling a random number out of the air - let's go with 3! ...We gladly take the tradeoff over the last 3 years of NCAA championship round results vs. meager VT participation, and remain openly curious of how fans from other top performing schools view those same 3 years!!
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Post by burbank55 on Feb 13, 2022 3:06:54 GMT -5
Haha, for me as a Trojan fan, it’s humorous. I would have started one for them because it’s so humiliating, but I think there has only been one other UCLA Beach annual thread in the history of the program. Yes, I know collegiate beach is probably only 10-11 years old. So my thinking is the Bruins fans who do show up here are only indoor fans who remember to check Beach VT once a month at best during the season. There just isn’t the representation for a real fan discussion. And really, only the Hawaiians represent well for collegiate beach here. Props to the Rainbow Warriors! I think I speak for all 5 of us UCLA fans participating on here, as well as anyone who ever pulled on a Bruin jersey in any sport, and those who have brandished a check-signing tuition pen to attend school in Westwood when I say...pulling a random number out of the air - let's go with 3! ...We gladly take the tradeoff over the last 3 years of NCAA championship round results vs. meager VT participation, and remain openly curious of how fans from other top performing schools view those same 3 years!! Not sure I understand your point. UCLA’s superior depth should probably win again in 2023. No one has doubted that Stein has fielded formidable teams over the past 5 years. I was going to jab you a bit, but I’ll just take comfort in my confidence that in 3 months, USC will have 5 of the last 7 championships. ✌️
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