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Post by ManapuaSurprise on Apr 20, 2024 21:39:47 GMT -5
Next season, it will be a two way battle for the BWC Tournament Title, between LBSU and UC Irvine. Both teams will have enough coming back that they will be head and shoulders over everyone else. Do not see Hawaii challenging for the BWC Tournament Title, or even getting into the NCAA Tournament next year. Main reason, Hawaii will have talent, but they will be extremely young. Being so young they will not be consistent. But watch out, come 2026 and 2027, Hawaii will be a team that will be awfully difficult to beat. Hawaii could even win back to back National Titles, maybe even in 2028, if Charlie Wade can come up with a Setter, for that 2028 team. UCI won't have any experienced setter at the helm with those returning pins. That's a question mark if I ever saw one. LBSU losing more starters than us! Hawaii will be young but talented. It will be a dog fight next year. But to count Hawaii out is crazy. Dont forget a libero. Sheward, Power, & also Tangutur's digs/passing are the real driving force behind UCI
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Post by VolleyMamaz on Apr 20, 2024 21:52:47 GMT -5
Here is hoping, and praying, Charlie Wade hits the transfer portal hard. Hawaii needs a lot of experienced D1 Level players for next year. You really think there's anyone in the transfer portal who wants to come play for Coach Wade after seeing what he did with an All-american transfer? Coming from a big Hawaii and Wade supporter, I 1000% agree. Kauling was done absolutely dirty. We don't even have to talk about the setting aspect of things. Let's just talk about leadership. We can all agree that we were in desperate need of a leader, whole time it was right there... On the bench? Absolutely insane. Wishing Kauling the best smh
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Post by klumfanatic on Apr 21, 2024 1:27:16 GMT -5
You really think there's anyone in the transfer portal who wants to come play for Coach Wade after seeing what he did with an All-american transfer? Coming from a big Hawaii and Wade supporter, I 1000% agree. Kauling was done absolutely dirty. We don't even have to talk about the setting aspect of things. Let's just talk about leadership. We can all agree that we were in desperate need of a leader, whole time it was right there... On the bench? Absolutely insane. Wishing Kauling the best smh How was Kauling done dirty? Kauling injured his ankle warming up before the first match of the year. He was out for a number of weeks with the injury. By then Tread was installed as the starter. I do think Wade could have brought Kauling in to set more when Tread was struggling with his location during the middle and later part of the season, but that’s just me as a spectator. Hard to say what was going on in the practice gym because I wasn’t there. Once Kauling missed the early part of the season, I can see Wade sticking to one setter and let Tread grow through his struggles. It is a tough decision, but one Wade made. Can’t say Kauling was done dirty. Might have been different if he didn’t get hurt early.
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Post by klumfanatic on Apr 21, 2024 1:59:53 GMT -5
It is bittersweet to see the end of the season come. I will miss players like Spyros, Voss and Galloway that played an integral part of the 4 straight trips to the NCAA finals and back to back championships. But we get to look forward to the exciting talent that is coming in the next few seasons.
Without Spyros’ injury I still think UH would still be playing. You can’t tell me that with Spyros that Hawaii wouldn’t be able to take on LBSU, Irvine or UCLA. Spyros was a candidate for the player of the year. We really missed him on out os system sets. The equivalent would be if you took Henno off Irvine. Where would Irvine be? So the results of the season are not surprising. At the end of the last season we knew we were losing Dimi, Thelle and Hogland. We didn’t know Sheward would transfer and we’d lose Spyros before conference play started. That’s five of the starting 7 from the previous year. We also didn’t know that none of the recruits other than Tread and Sakanoko would really contribute. Aleska Mandic was probably the most anticipated recruit, but he ended up not contributing at all as he transferred to lower division before the season started. None of the Moanalua trio set foot on the court. Understandable. Two of them redshirted and one quit/got cut from the team. Look forward to the contribution they can make to the team in the future. Many things have to go right to win a championship, but this year it seemed like a lot of things didn’t go right. That’s the breaks.
In hindsight knowing the outcome the season, it might have been better strategic decision to redshirt Tread and preserve his eligibility, but I can’t deny that he should learn and improve a lot from the experience he got this season. He really needs to work at becoming more consistent with his location on all sets. Thelle spoiled us. And for Tread, he did say that he came to Hawaii (and reclassified a year early) to play with Spyros, Chaz and Voss. So he got his wish. He is better than Thelle at the same point in their careers. Same can be said about Sakonoko. I’m unsure on Sakanoko, but he contributed more than Spyros and Rado in their freshmen year. If he keeps working he can definitely become a difference maker. For both Tread and Sakanoko, there is a path forward for them. With Tread, Sakanoko and the known recruits UH will be young next season, but a lot of the newcomers have a lot of international experience. We also still don’t know about transfers and potential unknown recruits. Given that UCLA, LBSU and Irvine lose half or more than half of their top 7, it is going to be wide open next season. So let’s hope everything goes well next season since everything seemed to go bad this season.
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Post by soljah808 on Apr 21, 2024 2:13:57 GMT -5
It is bittersweet to see the end of the season come. I will miss players like Spyros, Voss and Galloway that played an integral part of the 4 straight trips to the NCAA finals and back to back championships. But we get to look forward to the exciting talent that is coming in the next few seasons. Without Spyros’ injury I still think UH would still be playing. You can’t tell me that with Spyros that Hawaii wouldn’t be able to take on LBSU, Irvine or UCLA. Spyros was a candidate for the player of the year. We really missed him on out os system sets. The equivalent would be if you took Henno off Irvine. Where would Irvine be? So the results of the season are not surprising. At the end of the last season we knew we were losing Dimi, Thelle and Hogland. We didn’t know Sheward would transfer and we’d lose Spyros before conference play started. That’s five of the starting 7 from the previous year. We also didn’t know that none of the recruits other than Tread and Sakanoko would really contribute. Aleska Mandic was probably the most anticipated recruit, but he ended up not contributing at all as he transferred to lower division before the season started. None of the Moanalua trio set foot on the court. Understandable. Two of them redshirted and one quit/got cut from the team. Look forward to the contribution they can make to the team in the future. Many things have to go right to win a championship, but this year it seemed like a lot of things didn’t go right. That’s the breaks. In hindsight knowing the outcome the season, it might have been better strategic decision to redshirt Tread and preserve his eligibility, but I can’t deny that he should learn and improve a lot from the experience he got this season. He really needs to work at becoming more consistent with his location on all sets. Thelle spoiled us. And for Tread, he did say that he came to Hawaii (and reclassified a year early) to play with Spyros, Chaz and Voss. So he got his wish. He is better than Thelle at the same point in their careers. Same can be said about Sakonoko. I’m unsure on Sakanoko, but he contributed more than Spyros and Rado in their freshmen year. If he keeps working he can definitely become a difference maker. For both Tread and Sakanoko, there is a path forward for them. With Tread, Sakanoko and the known recruits UH will be young next season, but a lot of the newcomers have a lot of international experience. We also still don’t know about transfers and potential unknown recruits. Given that UCLA, LBSU and Irvine lose half or more than half of their top 7, it is going to be wide open next season. So let’s hope everything goes well next season since everything seemed to go bad this season. How do you redshirt Tread especially when Kauling is injured during warm ups of the very first game of the season? Who plays instead??? Buchanan!
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Post by alohavball on Apr 21, 2024 2:15:46 GMT -5
The lack of awareness by that KHON2 reporter asking about the teams at large chances. You could hear a pin drop during those 10 seconds of silence. Next reporter asked Wade what he'll remember most about this season. Wade: "Hmm great question" KHON2 getting blacklisted next year for sure! lol
Wade also talked highly of the JT's progress, so I think it's safe to say he won't be transferring.
Voss talked about wishing he had more time to develop a connection with Tread. He then said he didn't have enough time to put into the gym and getting the needed reps. Probably was busy with school related stuff?
The only thing I didn't agree with was Wade plugging in Josh Green at the end there.
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Post by ManapuaSurprise on Apr 21, 2024 2:24:53 GMT -5
The lack of awareness by that KHON2 reporter asking about the teams at large chances. You could hear a pin drop during those 10 seconds of silence. Next reporter asked Wade what he'll remember most about this season. Wade: "Hmm great question" KHON2 getting blacklisted next year for sure! lol Wade also talked highly of the JT's progress, so I think it's safe to say he won't be transferring. Voss talked about wishing he had more time to develop a connection with Tread. He then said he didn't have enough time to put into the gym and getting the needed reps. Probably was busy with school related stuff? The only thing I didn't agree with was Wade plugging in Josh Green at the end there. i mean Voss is majoring in Electrical Engineering for crying out loud. Those guys pretty much live in Holmes Hall
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Post by woozie808 on Apr 21, 2024 4:15:56 GMT -5
Nice to see Guilherme and Kurt talking to Brett after the final match.
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Apr 21, 2024 11:32:57 GMT -5
I know that we all think Hawaii has no chance of getting that last at-large spot but this looks a lot closer than I thought according to off the block. Also I just realized that Irvine has 10 loss. When was last time a double digit loss team gets an at-large? I know that VT will go crazy if Hawaii gets in.
Hawai’i vs. UC Irvine KPI ranking: Hawai’i No. 7 (0.351); UC Irvine No. 4 (0.430). Edge: UC Irvine RPI ranking: Hawai’i No. 7 (0.59036); UC Irvine No. 6 (0.61145). Edge: UC Irvine Strength of schedule: Hawai’i No. 23; UC Irvine No. 4. Edge: UC Irvine Won-lost results: Hawai’i 23-7; UC Irvine 19-10. Edge: Hawai’i Head-to-head competition: Season series tied at 2-2. Edge: Push Non-conference record: Hawai’i 16-1; UC Irvine 11-5. Edge: Hawai’i Home record: Hawai’i 17-3; UC Irvine 10-3. Edge: Hawai’i Road record: Hawai’i 5-4; UC Irvine 8-5. Edge: UC Irvine Record vs. common opponents: Hawai’i 8-4; UC Irvine 9-4. Edge: UC Irvine Record vs. teams qualified or under consideration: Hawai’i 3-4; UC Irvine 6-6. Edge: UC Irvine
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 21, 2024 11:37:38 GMT -5
I know that we all think Hawaii has no chance of getting that last at-large spot but this looks a lot closer than I thought according to off the block. Also I just realized that Irvine has 10 loss. When was last time a double digit loss team gets an at-large? I know that VT will go crazy if Hawaii gets in. Hawai’i vs. UC Irvine KPI ranking: Hawai’i No. 7 (0.351); UC Irvine No. 4 (0.430). Edge: UC Irvine RPI ranking: Hawai’i No. 7 (0.59036); UC Irvine No. 6 (0.61145). Edge: UC Irvine Strength of schedule: Hawai’i No. 23; UC Irvine No. 4. Edge: UC Irvine Won-lost results: Hawai’i 23-7; UC Irvine 19-10. Edge: Hawai’i Head-to-head competition: Season series tied at 2-2. Edge: Push Non-conference record: Hawai’i 16-1; UC Irvine 11-5. Edge: Hawai’i Home record: Hawai’i 17-3; UC Irvine 10-3. Edge: Hawai’i Road record: Hawai’i 5-4; UC Irvine 8-5. Edge: UC Irvine Record vs. common opponents: Hawai’i 8-4; UC Irvine 9-4. Edge: UC Irvine Record vs. teams qualified or under consideration: Hawai’i 3-4; UC Irvine 6-6. Edge: UC Irvine agree it was close. in the back of the committee's mind and even though last 10 games not a criteria, Hawaii was 6-6 since Chakas went down Hawaii was maybe/probably one win (even Northridge) from getting in, with two wins over Irvine, and the win over GCU. would have been intersting to see the decision between a 6 loss Hawaii and 10 loss Irvine. Irvine absolutely needed to have that home win over Beach, or they would have been out.
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Post by twkpwrbtmlib on Apr 21, 2024 12:03:23 GMT -5
I know that we all think Hawaii has no chance of getting that last at-large spot but this looks a lot closer than I thought according to off the block. Also I just realized that Irvine has 10 loss. When was last time a double digit loss team gets an at-large? I know that VT will go crazy if Hawaii gets in. Hawai’i vs. UC Irvine KPI ranking: Hawai’i No. 7 (0.351); UC Irvine No. 4 (0.430). Edge: UC Irvine RPI ranking: Hawai’i No. 7 (0.59036); UC Irvine No. 6 (0.61145). Edge: UC Irvine Strength of schedule: Hawai’i No. 23; UC Irvine No. 4. Edge: UC Irvine Won-lost results: Hawai’i 23-7; UC Irvine 19-10. Edge: Hawai’i Head-to-head competition: Season series tied at 2-2. Edge: Push Non-conference record: Hawai’i 16-1; UC Irvine 11-5. Edge: Hawai’i Home record: Hawai’i 17-3; UC Irvine 10-3. Edge: Hawai’i Road record: Hawai’i 5-4; UC Irvine 8-5. Edge: UC Irvine Record vs. common opponents: Hawai’i 8-4; UC Irvine 9-4. Edge: UC Irvine Record vs. teams qualified or under consideration: Hawai’i 3-4; UC Irvine 6-6. Edge: UC Irvine something symmetrical if hawaii were to get it over UCI like 2018
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Apr 21, 2024 12:13:10 GMT -5
I know that we all think Hawaii has no chance of getting that last at-large spot but this looks a lot closer than I thought according to off the block. Also I just realized that Irvine has 10 loss. When was last time a double digit loss team gets an at-large? I know that VT will go crazy if Hawaii gets in. Hawai’i vs. UC Irvine KPI ranking: Hawai’i No. 7 (0.351); UC Irvine No. 4 (0.430). Edge: UC Irvine RPI ranking: Hawai’i No. 7 (0.59036); UC Irvine No. 6 (0.61145). Edge: UC Irvine Strength of schedule: Hawai’i No. 23; UC Irvine No. 4. Edge: UC Irvine Won-lost results: Hawai’i 23-7; UC Irvine 19-10. Edge: Hawai’i Head-to-head competition: Season series tied at 2-2. Edge: Push Non-conference record: Hawai’i 16-1; UC Irvine 11-5. Edge: Hawai’i Home record: Hawai’i 17-3; UC Irvine 10-3. Edge: Hawai’i Road record: Hawai’i 5-4; UC Irvine 8-5. Edge: UC Irvine Record vs. common opponents: Hawai’i 8-4; UC Irvine 9-4. Edge: UC Irvine Record vs. teams qualified or under consideration: Hawai’i 3-4; UC Irvine 6-6. Edge: UC Irvine agree it was close. in the back of the committee's mind and even though last 10 games not a criteria, Hawaii was 6-6 since Chakas went down Hawaii was maybe/probably one win (even Northridge) from getting in, with two wins over Irvine, and the win over GCU. would have been intersting to see the decision between a 6 loss Hawaii and 10 loss Irvine. Irvine absolutely needed to have that home win over Beach, or they would have been out. After looking at this, I haven’t completely lost hope yet but won’t be mad at all if Irvine gets in. Will be interesting!
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 21, 2024 12:18:26 GMT -5
agree it was close. in the back of the committee's mind and even though last 10 games not a criteria, Hawaii was 6-6 since Chakas went down Hawaii was maybe/probably one win (even Northridge) from getting in, with two wins over Irvine, and the win over GCU. would have been intersting to see the decision between a 6 loss Hawaii and 10 loss Irvine. Irvine absolutely needed to have that home win over Beach, or they would have been out. After looking at this, I haven’t completely lost hope yet but won’t be mad at all if Irvine gets in. Will be interesting! the other thing, had Ball State won the MIVA auto-bid, Hawaii would have added a significant criteria win, and a road win at that I don't think it would have changed the decision, but you never know.
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Post by soljah808 on Apr 21, 2024 12:45:37 GMT -5
Tbh as much as I hoped Hawaii could pull off the at large....after everything that occured post-Chakas and Hawaii's inconsistencies....I'd feel UCI deserves it more just because they have a fighting chance to win a title. Hawaii imo was barely able to keep up after Chakas. So even had they won against CSUN and UCSD and possibilities had a bunch of criteria that could have propelled them over UCI in that scenario....I'd say give it to UCI.
Now with that said....Hawaii will be young and stacked next year and if they can work hard in the off season...I expect 2025 Hawaii to be turning a lot of heads. They have their full compliment of players and have a fighting chance. Hawaii without Chakas for this season just wasn't the same and it was obvious beyond just their record without him in there.
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Post by kb808 on Apr 21, 2024 13:02:19 GMT -5
10 loses is a lot.. does Irvine really deserve it ? If Hawaiis strength of schedule was stronger I think they’d have a better chance!
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