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Post by guest2 on Oct 8, 2023 22:34:33 GMT -5
Progress over the decades? What countries are you referring to? Israel and Palestine have been shooting at each other more or less non-stop since the last Intifada, Syria is in the midst of a civil war that has killed or displaced millions, Egypt is less than a decade from its most recent coup/revolution etc. Yemen is in the midst of an ongoing civil war, fueled in part by its neighbors. I guess Lebanon has been somewhat calm recently, by comparison anyway. Has Iraq strung together a few calm years yet? Yes progress. Painfully slow progress with many setbacks. But still progress nevertheless. Read up on modern Middle Eastern history before you come back for your next post. Just out of curiosity how much time have you actually spent in the Middle East? |
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Post by ironhammer on Oct 8, 2023 22:57:20 GMT -5
Yes progress. Painfully slow progress with many setbacks. But still progress nevertheless. Read up on modern Middle Eastern history before you come back for your next post. Just out of curiosity how much time have you actually spent in the Middle East? Trying to change the subject are we? Probably more than you. And don't avoid the question. Do your homework about Middle Eastern history. Do you know anything about it, at all? Do you know where all those countries are geographically? Don't go rushing to wikipedia now for your answers... |
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Post by guest2 on Oct 8, 2023 23:03:47 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity how much time have you actually spent in the Middle East? Trying to change the subject are we? Probably more than you. And don't avoid the question. Do your homework about Middle Eastern history. Do you know anything about it, at all? Do you know where all those countries are geographically? Don't go rushing to wikipedia now for your answers... You didn't ask a question. I did, which you dodged. But for your reference, I have spent significant time in every country I mentioned except Iran and Yemen, as well as several I didn't mention. More than a decade altogether. So yes, I know where these countries are. But unlike you, I did ask a question. How much time have you actually spent in the Middle East? And in which countries? |
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Post by ironhammer on Oct 8, 2023 23:09:04 GMT -5
Trying to change the subject are we? Probably more than you. And don't avoid the question. Do your homework about Middle Eastern history. Do you know anything about it, at all? Do you know where all those countries are geographically? Don't go rushing to wikipedia now for your answers... You didn't ask a question. I did, which you dodged. But for your reference, I have spent significant time in every country I mentioned except Iran and Yemen, as well as several I didn't mention. More than a decade altogether. So yes, I know where these countries are. I told you to do homework on Middle Eastern history. And for the record, I don't believe what you just stated. Anyone who did actually spent as long as you claim in the region would not say something so remote from reality. So please, stop lying. Its really sad that someone would take this tragedy to engage in petty spats. I think you need to grow up. Seriously, do some reflection. Thousands have been killed in Israel and here you are lying just to spite me? What is wrong with you? |
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Post by guest2 on Oct 8, 2023 23:15:52 GMT -5
You didn't ask a question. I did, which you dodged. But for your reference, I have spent significant time in every country I mentioned except Iran and Yemen, as well as several I didn't mention. More than a decade altogether. So yes, I know where these countries are. I told you to do homework on Middle Eastern history. And for the record, I don't believe what you just stated. Anyone who did actually spent as long as you claim in the region would not say something so remote from reality. So please, stop lying. Its really sad that someone would take this tragedy to engage in petty spats. I think you need to grow up. Seriously, do some reflection. Thousands have been killed in Israel and here you are lying just to spite me? What is wrong with you? Wow |
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Post by ironhammer on Oct 8, 2023 23:18:01 GMT -5
I told you to do homework on Middle Eastern history. And for the record, I don't believe what you just stated. Anyone who did actually spent as long as you claim in the region would not say something so remote from reality. So please, stop lying. Its really sad that someone would take this tragedy to engage in petty spats. I think you need to grow up. Seriously, do some reflection. Thousands have been killed in Israel and here you are lying just to spite me? What is wrong with you? Wow Seriously, you need to stop it. I don't know what your deal is, but this is crossing basic moral decency. |
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Post by guest2 on Oct 8, 2023 23:29:09 GMT -5
Seriously, you need to stop it. I don't know what your deal is, but this is crossing basic moral decency. Typing wow is "crossing basic moral decency." Also is moral decency something you cross? |
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Post by ironhammer on Oct 8, 2023 23:33:10 GMT -5
Seriously, you need to stop it. I don't know what your deal is, but this is crossing basic moral decency. Typing wow is "crossing basic moral decency." Also is moral decency something you cross? I don't make stuff up. Especially over such a heinous event. If that is not crossing one's basic ethical standard, then one can say they don't have an ethical core to their being. |
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Post by guest2 on Oct 8, 2023 23:37:51 GMT -5
Typing wow is "crossing basic moral decency." Also is moral decency something you cross? I don't make stuff up. Especially over such a heinous event. If that is not crossing one's basic ethical standard, then one can say they don't have an ethical core to their being. Tell you what sport, lets say I can prove that I have spent over 10 years in the Middle East. Would you agree to never post on this site again? BTW you still haven't asked the question I initially asked, which was how much time have you spent in the Middle East (and I added what countries). Once you are done self-gratifying to an old issue of Foreign Policy magazine, why not answer that one |
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Post by ironhammer on Oct 8, 2023 23:41:43 GMT -5
I don't make stuff up. Especially over such a heinous event. If that is not crossing one's basic ethical standard, then one can say they don't have an ethical core to their being. Tell you what sport, lets say I can prove that I have spent over 10 years in the Middle East. Would you agree to never post on this site again? I'm not interested in your imaginary fantasy time in the Middle East nor would that, even if somehow true, prove your point true. Because it is false on the facts. Your position fails basic reasoning and an objective check on reality. Like I said, you have a deluded view of the Middle East, plain and simple. I think you need to stop it and end this petty nonsense. Because it really is rather pathetic on your part. |
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Post by guest2 on Oct 8, 2023 23:44:11 GMT -5
Tell you what sport, lets say I can prove that I have spent over 10 years in the Middle East. Would you agree to never post on this site again? I'm not interested in your imaginary fantasy time in the Middle East nor would that, even if somehow true, prove your point true. Because it is false on the facts. Your position fails basic reasoning and an objective check on reality. So you throw around accusations like "crossing moral decency" and exploiting tragedies while labelling someone a liar but then when offered proof you won't stand behind your claim. Enjoy your day |
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Post by ironhammer on Oct 8, 2023 23:48:01 GMT -5
I'm not interested in your imaginary fantasy time in the Middle East nor would that, even if somehow true, prove your point true. Because it is false on the facts. Your position fails basic reasoning and an objective check on reality. So you throw around accusations like "crossing moral decency" and exploiting tragedies while labelling someone a liar but then when offered proof you won't stand behind your claim. Enjoy your day What claim are you going on about? Typical nonsense of a troll. When caught red-handed, you retreat with tail between your leg. I'm not interested in your lies. I just know you are lying and that is reason enough for me to call you out. It is an objective fact that progress has been made in peace in the Middle East. Not all Arab countries now vow to eradicate Israel. Iraq and Iran is no longer engaged in a bloody war that cost over a half million lives like in the 80s. Saudi Arabia at least is entertaining the thought of some kind of normalization of ties with Israel. All that is progress. But go on, pretend nothing happened and Arabs still live in the stone age. Pathetic fools like you is a problem on VT. Answer me, are all Arabs at war with Israel? Yes or No? What's the matter, cat got your tongue? Just as I expected, as soon as facts arrived, the trolls vanish. |
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Post by ironhammer on Oct 8, 2023 23:51:10 GMT -5
Now that I gotten rid of a troll, can we please get back on topic? No more side tracks about imaginary invented fantasy time in the Middle East. Just the latest facts on the Israel-Hamas war.
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Post by guest2 on Oct 8, 2023 23:54:25 GMT -5
So you throw around accusations like "crossing moral decency" and exploiting tragedies while labelling someone a liar but then when offered proof you won't stand behind your claim. Enjoy your day What claim are you going on about? Typical nonsense of a troll. When caught red-handed, you retreat with tail between your leg. I'm not interested in your lies. I just know you are lying and that is reason enough for me to call you out. It is an objective fact that progress has been made in peace in the Middle East. Not all Arab countries now vow to eradicate Israel. Iraq and Iran is no longer engaged in a bloody war that cost over a half million lives like in the 80s. Saudi Arabia at least is entertaining the thought of some kind of normalization of ties with Israel. All that is progress. But go on, pretend nothing happened and Arabs still live in the stone age. Pathetic fools like you is a problem on VT. The claim that I was lying. You remember your impassioned claim from 30 seconds ago that I was exploiting a tragedy? The 1980s Iraq/Iran war has certainly ended. Well done there. Things certainly have been peaceful in Iraq since then |
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Post by ironhammer on Oct 8, 2023 23:56:18 GMT -5
What claim are you going on about? Typical nonsense of a troll. When caught red-handed, you retreat with tail between your leg. I'm not interested in your lies. I just know you are lying and that is reason enough for me to call you out. It is an objective fact that progress has been made in peace in the Middle East. Not all Arab countries now vow to eradicate Israel. Iraq and Iran is no longer engaged in a bloody war that cost over a half million lives like in the 80s. Saudi Arabia at least is entertaining the thought of some kind of normalization of ties with Israel. All that is progress. But go on, pretend nothing happened and Arabs still live in the stone age. Pathetic fools like you is a problem on VT. The claim that I was lying. You remember your impassioned claim from 30 seconds ago that I was exploiting a tragedy? The 1980s Iraq/Iran war has certainly ended. Well done there. Things certainly have been peaceful in Iraq since thenYes, because Saddam is no longer around and launching wars against Iran or Kuwait. You seem so interested to side track the discussion by inventing a fictious time in the Middle East. Which in any case, doesn't help the argument you claim, there has been no progress towards peace in the Middle East. That is plainly false on the facts. Stop beating around the bush and admit you were wrong. Arabs and the Israelis aren't at each other's throat like it was in 1948. That alone is progress. |
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