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Post by JJVb on Mar 6, 2024 16:55:17 GMT -5
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Post by alwayslearning on Mar 7, 2024 18:59:15 GMT -5
Now we have our answer with regard to whether Tulino would be on scholarship. I assume that the Huskies now have no more scholies for 2024. Also good to see another libero/DS in the mix, bringing the total number of players to 15. Wouldn't mind seeing one or two more non-scholarship players.
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Post by marnvbc2 on Mar 7, 2024 22:01:56 GMT -5
11/23/23 Thanksgiving Day, 2023 While many VTers are enjoying family & turkey(s) and thinking about Selection Sunday, UW fans are still trying to figure out how the team missed the tournament for the first time in two decades. And wondering if things will get worse in 2024. To help answer that question, it might be time to re-think the JMac and KCook years on Montlake so we can set the correct bar for Leslie Gabriel. JMac took over a program that had just finished dead last in the PAC. After two years he got his team to fewer than 10 losses, and then never again did a JMac UW team have 10 losses. He won PAC titles and a National Championship. KCook took over in 2015, kept things stable for one year, but then had three consecutive increases in losses. In his 8 years at UW his teams had two seasons with more than 10 losses, including his final year in 2022. (He should get props for making the FF during the 2020 Covid year, but there are some who think that entire year was an outlier for many teams.) Gabriel took over in 2023, with a bare cupboard recruiting class, a departing AD and an impending conference change. Her first team suffered the most losses for any UW team since the JMac turnaround. And of course, missed the tournament. Seeing these numbers in chart form has me slightly rethinking the KCook years. (Gopher fans can do their own thinking.) Assuming UW has to play PSU, NEB, PUR, and the other UW in '24, I'd think getting the team to fewer than 10 losses would be success. Can LGab (sorry, need to keep with convention) do that? Can she build on that in "25 and beyond. IMO, it all comes down to recruiting. Nice work on this thought with backup doc. I agree with you. Cook has a lot of knowledgeable MN fans and more knowledgeable AD admin (in VB) than UW has. It will be very interesting to see if he pulls things together in MN and UW will have huge grind ahead of itself in the new league. It is likely to be tough sleding for 2 years even with good recruiting.
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Post by tomclen on Mar 9, 2024 17:55:41 GMT -5
Does the dismissal of UW Men's basketball coach have any sort of trickle-down impact on other sports? Volleyball, in particular?
The firing, IMO, was somewhat overdue.
I'd hope the only pressure Gabriel fells is self-imposed. And I think a decent B1G debut (top half of the B1G) will free her from any major concerns. There's a lot of upside potential.
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Post by alwayslearning on Mar 10, 2024 11:26:16 GMT -5
I seriously doubt any trickle-down effect on volleyball. Tui should be given the benefit of a doubt for a few years. If things aren't going well in, say 2026 (and 2024 and 2025 did not produce good results), well sure, the natives will be getting restless and the admin will be on alert. By then we should have a much better measure of both Tui's recruiting prowess and her volleyball development and coaching skills. I do think there is upside potential this season.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Mar 15, 2024 16:02:38 GMT -5
I seriously doubt any trickle-down effect on volleyball. Tui should be given the benefit of a doubt for a few years. If things aren't going well in, say 2026 (and 2024 and 2025 did not produce good results), well sure, the natives will be getting restless and the admin will be on alert. By then we should have a much better measure of both Tui's recruiting prowess and her volleyball development and coaching skills. I do think there is upside potential this season. It depends on whether she can bring in enough talent to compete in the top half of the B1G. The jury is out on that. That we have ZERO 2025 commits (USC has five, Oregon and UCLA each have four), with four open slots, is not a good sign. Srs: Endsley, Bays, Fletcher, Tulino Jrs: Bush, Wilmes, Wilson, Heard* Sophs: Hani, Wessels, Barton Frosh: Haury, Hunt, Huard*
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Post by sluggermatt15 on Mar 15, 2024 17:01:15 GMT -5
^You both are right. Time will tell. I also agree 2024 we will be good for 8-10 wins in the B1G. There is some talent there and I believe there will be player growth/development (Wessels, Hani, et al) that will lead to victories.
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Post by tomclen on Mar 20, 2024 12:16:19 GMT -5
Guy didn't stay long enough to go to Pike Place Market
Not liking much of what's happening these days at UW. Gabriel's going to be getting another new boss soon.
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Post by ay2013 on Mar 20, 2024 12:53:47 GMT -5
Guy didn't stay long enough to go to Pike Place Market Not liking much of what's happening these days at UW. Gabriel's going to be getting another new boss soon. Meh, losing Cohen hurt, I have little opinion about Dannen. I'm more concerned about turnover, generally, at the top spots, than I am losing this guy to a program like Nebraska. I feel like perception matters, though in today's college athletics landscape, who isn't replacing top jobs these days? It's like a carousel.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Mar 20, 2024 13:20:31 GMT -5
Guy didn't stay long enough to go to Pike Place Market Not liking much of what's happening these days at UW. Gabriel's going to be getting another new boss soon. Meh, losing Cohen hurt, I have little opinion about Dannen. I'm more concerned about turnover, generally, at the top spots, than I am losing this guy to a program like Nebraska. I feel like perception matters, though in today's college athletics landscape, who isn't replacing top jobs these days? It's like a carousel. Perhaps shows respect for the institution, that we're their go-to for "spare parts", but also that we're at a disadvantage when it comes to matching "athletic" salaries.
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Post by hookem1 on Mar 20, 2024 13:29:52 GMT -5
So in the last two years UW lost their… AD to Nebraska FB HC to Alabama AD to USC VB HC to Minnesota
Besides Kalen going to bama, I don’t understand why people are leaving for other big ten jobs??? Washington seems like a great combination of athletics and academics to me, with lots to sell as an institution.
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Post by tomclen on Mar 20, 2024 13:31:39 GMT -5
So in the last two years UW lost their… AD to Nebraska FB HC to Alabama AD to USC VB HC to Minnesota Besides Kalen going to bama, I don’t understand why people are leaving for other big ten jobs??? Washington seems like a great combination of athletics and academics to me, with lots to sell as an institution. $,$$$,$$$.$$
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Post by luckydawg on Mar 20, 2024 13:48:15 GMT -5
So in the last two years UW lost their… AD to Nebraska FB HC to Alabama AD to USC VB HC to Minnesota Besides Kalen going to bama, I don’t understand why people are leaving for other big ten jobs??? Washington seems like a great combination of athletics and academics to me, with lots to sell as an institution. Most likely: AD to Nebraska: $500k pay bump and lower academics makes easier recruiting; DeBoer: Core of UW team graduating and a marquee program wanted him; Cohen: Changes in personal life made it a good time to start over and much more$; Cook: Uncertainty about future if the Pac12
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Post by Huskyfan on Mar 20, 2024 14:23:35 GMT -5
Cook: Uncertainty about future if the Pac12 With Cook: also: loss of most starters to graduation for 2023 with a combination of poor recruiting in the previous years resulting in a bare cupboard
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Post by ay2013 on Mar 20, 2024 14:25:11 GMT -5
So in the last two years UW lost their… AD to Nebraska FB HC to Alabama AD to USC VB HC to Minnesota Besides Kalen going to bama, I don’t understand why people are leaving for other big ten jobs??? Washington seems like a great combination of athletics and academics to me, with lots to sell as an institution. Most likely: AD to Nebraska: $500k pay bump and lower academics makes easier recruiting; DeBoer: Core of UW team graduating and a marquee program wanted him; Cohen: Changes in personal life made it a good time to start over and much more$; Cook: Uncertainty about future if the Pac12 Add a ton more money for DeBoer AND a much lower cost of living and less travel playing in the SEC, also add in a lot more money for Cook than Washington was willing to pay for womens volleyball. From this list, the only real loss, IMO, was Cohen, Washington should have done everything to keep her, everyone else, let them go - IMO, the money wasn't worth what they brought to the program. I'd much have a carousel of coaches that are appropriately paid for what they bring to the program, rather than being one of those programs that just throws obscene amounts of money around without anything to show for it.
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