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Post by fromonhigh on May 1, 2024 18:58:55 GMT -5
I dunno about Benefield's overall recruitment, but if we we are getting players who are changing their minds, there are plenty of 2025's who could/would have made more sense, and the timing would have been better, but that's just me. My hunch is that while Garus hates to lose the recruiting time spent, he is relieved that he dodged a player who would always be looking around for the next best thing. I question what this says about UW recruiting.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 1, 2024 19:07:43 GMT -5
I dunno about Benefield's overall recruitment, but if we we are getting players who are changing their minds, there are plenty of 2025's who could/would have made more sense, and the timing would have been better, but that's just me. My hunch is that while Garus hates to lose the recruiting time spent, he is relieved that he dodged a player who would always be looking around for the next best thing. I question what this says about UW recruiting. IDK, considering he's coming off a losing season and has only been to the tournament twice in 15 years, I imagine Garus is probably sad to miss out on having a player a program like Washington is interested in that he already had committed.
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Post by tomclen on May 1, 2024 19:08:02 GMT -5
Wonder if the Volleyball B1G schedule will look similar to the Men's Basketball sked: [ They've already released the home/away for volleyball, Tom. Wow. My bad. VT let me down - or I wasn't paying attention.
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Post by ay2013 on May 1, 2024 19:10:01 GMT -5
I dunno about Benefield's overall recruitment, but if we we are getting players who are changing their minds, there are plenty of 2025's who could/would have made more sense, and the timing would have been better, but that's just me. My hunch is that while Garus hates to lose the recruiting time spent, he is relieved that he dodged a player who would always be looking around for the next best thing. I question what this says about UW recruiting. Washington is a poster child for a low drama, above board coaching team that fosters a program that players never transfer out of. This hasn't been the first player who has signed an NLI with a different school but eventually switched to Washington (see Kylin Munoz). I'm not sure what the future will hold, but considering this is an unheralded player that, from my eyes, won't be seeing the court anytime soon, I don't think this says all that much about "UW recruiting", at least not as you are making it out to be. Regardless, Washington and Boise State are NOT peers when it comes to college volleyball. If you are implying that Washington somehow back channel poached Benefield, alright, but even if that was the case (and I'm not saying that it is), Washington would just be joining the number of actual peer programs who are doing the same things.
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Post by luckydawg on May 1, 2024 19:37:50 GMT -5
Not unusual for players to have an unexpectedly good senior season, or grow a few inches, and then get recruited by higher level teams.
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Post by ay2013 on May 1, 2024 19:48:18 GMT -5
Not unusual for players to have an unexpectedly good senior season, or grow a few inches, and then get recruited by higher level teams. I would argue that it IS unusual for that to happen. By time their senior season rolls around, most quality players have, at minimum, verballed to a school, and depending on the timeline, some have signed LNI. Other schools actively recruiting those players is an explicit violation of the no contact rules. That doesn't preclude the athletes themselves from reopening their recruitment before enrolling, but that's different than another school being the catalyst for such a thing. There are examples of that actually happening - I won't call out those programs and players here specifically, but it's still an uncommon occurrence.
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Post by luckydawg on May 1, 2024 20:13:42 GMT -5
Not unusual for players to have an unexpectedly good senior season, or grow a few inches, and then get recruited by higher level teams. I would argue that it IS unusual for that to happen. By time their senior season rolls around, most quality players have, at minimum, verballed to a school, and depending on the timeline, some have signed LNI. Other schools actively recruiting those players is an explicit violation of the no contact rules. That doesn't preclude the athletes themselves from reopening their recruitment before enrolling, but that's different than another school being the catalyst for such a thing. There are examples of that actually happening - I won't call out those programs and players here specifically, but it's still an uncommon occurrence. Perhaps I phrased it poorly. More accurately, a late bloomer gets on the radar of a higher level school. A coach or friend being the contact person keeps it all "above board". Regardless, under current rules, NLIs really don't mean much. Players can transfer at anytime without penalty and be immediately eligible. Not necessarily a good thing, but its the current reality of college athletics.
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Post by ay2013 on May 1, 2024 20:22:34 GMT -5
I would argue that it IS unusual for that to happen. By time their senior season rolls around, most quality players have, at minimum, verballed to a school, and depending on the timeline, some have signed LNI. Other schools actively recruiting those players is an explicit violation of the no contact rules. That doesn't preclude the athletes themselves from reopening their recruitment before enrolling, but that's different than another school being the catalyst for such a thing. There are examples of that actually happening - I won't call out those programs and players here specifically, but it's still an uncommon occurrence. Perhaps I phrased it poorly. More accurately, a late bloomer gets on the radar of a higher level school. A coach or friend being the contact person keeps it all "above board". Regardless, under current rules, NLIs really don't mean much. Players can transfer at anytime without penalty and be immediately eligible. Not necessarily a good thing, but its the current reality of college athletics. true.
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Post by fromonhigh on May 1, 2024 23:55:10 GMT -5
My hunch is that while Garus hates to lose the recruiting time spent, he is relieved that he dodged a player who would always be looking around for the next best thing. I question what this says about UW recruiting. Washington is a poster child for a low drama, above board coaching team that fosters a program that players never transfer out of. This hasn't been the first player who has signed an NLI with a different school but eventually switched to Washington (see Kylin Munoz). I'm not sure what the future will hold, but considering this is an unheralded player that, from my eyes, won't be seeing the court anytime soon, I don't think this says all that much about "UW recruiting", at least not as you are making it out to be. Regardless, Washington and Boise State are NOT peers when it comes to college volleyball. If you are implying that Washington somehow back channel poached Benefield, alright, but even if that was the case (and I'm not saying that it is), Washington would just be joining the number of actual peer programs who are doing the same things. The point I was trying to make is that it is unusual for a program to recruit a player that has verbally committed, not to mention signed an NLI. I’m also not sure that using Kylin Munoz in order to buttress your argument is a great one. I recall a lot of disagreement over her backing out of the commitment to BYU.
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Post by alwayslearning on May 2, 2024 11:05:33 GMT -5
I don't follow recruiting so I have no opinion on Benefield's talent level. But I assume that Tui and the rest of the staff must see some potential and athleticism. Also, just the fact that we now have 16 players on the roster is a good sign, especially after the low roster numbers and rash of injuries the last few years. Finally, adding another player of color is a good sign, IMO, that the UW program is becoming more diverse -- it can't hurt future recruiting efforts.
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Post by mikegarrison on May 2, 2024 15:50:09 GMT -5
I’m also not sure that using Kylin Munoz in order to buttress your argument is a great one. I recall a lot of disagreement over her backing out of the commitment to BYU. I don't think it was ever publicly explained why she did that, but ultimately BYU decided her justification was reasonable enough that they allowed her to play a fourth season at UW. All that was publicly reported was that her decision to switch schools after signing the NLI was not volleyball-related.
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Post by redbeard2008 on May 5, 2024 11:13:53 GMT -5
also, is she on scholarship? I assume Bush, Endsley, Barton, Tulino, Fletcher, Wilmes, Hani, Wessels, Wilson, Haury, and Bays are on scholarships. That's 12. so one of these 13 is not on scholarship. Or she delays full-time enrollment until Winter/Spring Quarters (Greyshirting). Looks like it could be a Carl Bonnell situation: "Carl Bonnell is a 6-3, 198-pound Quarterback from Kent, WA. He signed with Washington State in the 2002 recruiting cycle but grayshirted that fall and then requested his release and transferred to Washington." - 247sports.com/player/carl-bonnell-46132725/
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Post by ay2013 on May 7, 2024 17:56:21 GMT -5
So far we have Montana State and Middle Tennessee State... to start the season. Unfortunately for us, the potential for Montana State to be a solid RPI team to have scheduled (I think they will do very well in conference) was also picked up on by Nebraska and ASU. Hopefully Montana State is able to win the rest of their non-conference slate other than to us, ASU, and Nebraska. Thankfully, MTSU didn't schedule too difficulty for their non-conference, which helps us.
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Post by Huskyfan on May 7, 2024 20:20:40 GMT -5
Emoni Bush is on Canada's long roster for VNL. This is a big honor and a good experience for her
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Post by JJVb on May 9, 2024 19:41:17 GMT -5
Looking forward to this.
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