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Post by douglass9 on Apr 21, 2024 19:27:24 GMT -5
Steph did not make the Volleyball Nations League team. Bummer.
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Post by mplsgopher on Apr 22, 2024 7:23:56 GMT -5
Physics: Superimpose Wookie & Grote's point of contact (above the court) and serve trajectory Angle of attack (+ is above the horizon, = at horizon, - angles down Serve velocity beyond the math of a parabola you have point of contact relative to the back line, ball spin rate, inflation pressure, temperature, etc. all of these factors determines whether a serve clears the net, goes long, or travels a distance that lands in the court if it doesn't go wide. Not everyone's shoulder is built exactly the same. And especially if you have several years of going through a range of motion in a particular way, and thus the muscles and joints have built up for that ROM .... now you suddenly ask her to start reaching up higher.
That could be asking for a shoulder injury. Just sayin
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Post by mcmike on Apr 22, 2024 10:05:03 GMT -5
In last year’s failed experiment The spinning toss was big The serve was struck in front of the baseline At ‘high spike’ height Too Many Moving Parts
No change in body mechanics vis a vis shoulder or reaching Just raise point of contact higher above court surface
Think attack angle like a tall pitcher throwing a low fast ball down off the pitching mound vs an infielder throwing to first base against a slow batter
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Post by mplsgopher on Apr 22, 2024 10:34:20 GMT -5
I will admit that I don’t understand how it is physically possible to increase the height of the contact point without changing the arm swing path.
Here I am assuming the contact occurs in the same vertical plan (relative to front-to-back direction, ie towards/away from net) in all cases.
If what you’re saying is to change the vertical plane of contact (eg something like “don’t contact the ball so far in front of your body, bring it back a bit”) then I can understand that would not require a change in arm swing path.
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Post by comet on Apr 22, 2024 10:41:38 GMT -5
I will admit that I don’t understand how it is physically possible to increase the height of the contact point without changing the arm swing path. Here I am assuming the contact occurs in the same vertical plan (relative to front-to-back direction, ie towards/away from net) in all cases. If what you’re saying is to change the vertical plane of contact (eg something like “don’t contact the ball so far in front of your body, bring it back a bit”) then I can understand that would not require a change in arm swing path. Couldn't it just be increasing her vertical jump a bit so she contacts higher?
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Post by mcmike on Apr 22, 2024 10:51:21 GMT -5
higher off the court on hop or jump, not stretching or reaching
if Grote, think clockface, has a point of contact past vertical (:00) at :55 and Wookie currently hits the ball at the arc in her swing at :05 before reaching vertical that Wookie's point of contact would come a tad later in her swing, but this a trivial shift
Wookie doesn't need a high spinning ball toss (although more spin would be good) or jump like last year's failed experiment Her serve effectiveness would take a positive jump if she hopped higher on her approach, just a few inches.
I like the trend in the Gopher serve. Feels like fewer floats and more 'drives'. IL, in particular, did not have many FBSOs and their serve reception wasn't crisp. This may have had more to do with a depleted lineup and unfamiliar spacing than MN's pressure.
The only thing I like about watching from the end of the court is how the serve moves and how the players on the court move into position, so I rarely sit there. I'd like hearing from end line folks how they see the MN serving.
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Post by mplsgopher on Apr 22, 2024 12:55:53 GMT -5
Oh. You want her to jump higher on the serve. OK. Why not just say that?
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Post by gophervballfan on Apr 22, 2024 17:03:09 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong but the transfer portal opens back up May 1-15? I feel like our team is gelling well together, but for the sake of us, I hope the transfer portal gets messy and a couple big names drop in from other teams. I feel like if we can land a really solid DS and maybe a utility player/middle (for depth) we could be in really good shape come fall. If Wookie and Hanson lock in on passing and floor defense and Wookie gets her serve down, I think our pins will be able to participate in a really balanced offense. Mel seems to be more mobile (no more knee brace!) per the reports of the spring-game attendees. Seems like Calissa could have a breakout season, and Phoebe is only going to get better, with Pedro they are in really good hands. Zeynep has an opportunity to make a name for herself in the Big 10 and shock a lot of people. Big 10 will be fierce with competition this season, but our coaches are creating a good culture and I think we could make some refinements this summer that will let us compete with the best of the best.
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Apr 22, 2024 18:34:01 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong but the transfer portal opens back up May 1-15? I feel like our team is gelling well together, but for the sake of us, I hope the transfer portal gets messy and a couple big names drop in from other teams. I feel like if we can land a really solid DS and maybe a utility player/middle (for depth) we could be in really good shape come fall. If Wookie and Hanson lock in on passing and floor defense and Wookie gets her serve down, I think our pins will be able to participate in a really balanced offense. Mel seems to be more mobile (no more knee brace!) per the reports of the spring-game attendees. Seems like Calissa could have a breakout season, and Phoebe is only going to get better, with Pedro they are in really good hands. Zeynep has an opportunity to make a name for herself in the Big 10 and shock a lot of people. Big 10 will be fierce with competition this season, but our coaches are creating a good culture and I think we could make some refinements this summer that will let us compete with the best of the best. Yes that’s the May portal window and I agree with everything you said here.
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Post by gopherhim on Apr 23, 2024 15:05:46 GMT -5
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Apr 23, 2024 17:19:05 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, that means both of them are also the captains for the 2024 season.
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Post by vbruh on Apr 23, 2024 18:25:57 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, that means both of them are also the captains for the 2024 season. Mel will be a captain.
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Post by mop on Apr 23, 2024 18:50:53 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, that means both of them are also the captains for the 2024 season. Mel will be a captain. Probably. She went last year, guessing Keegan wanted to give others the opportunity
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Post by HeyHey on Apr 24, 2024 16:25:52 GMT -5
Oh. You want her to jump higher on the serve. OK. Why not just say that? Because then he couldn't try make everyone think how smart he is. Or how much he knows about volleyball.
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Post by mcmike on Apr 26, 2024 2:49:03 GMT -5
higher off the court on hop or jump, not stretching or reaching if Grote, think clockface, has a point of contact past vertical (:00) at :55 and Wookie currently hits the ball at the arc in her swing at :05 before reaching vertical that Wookie's point of contact would come a tad later in her swing, but this a trivial shift Wookie doesn't need a high spinning ball toss (although more spin would be good) or jump like last year's failed experiment Her serve effectiveness would take a positive jump if she hopped higher on her approach, just a few inches. 1:52 and that is more ball toss and jump height than necessary lower toss but 6 more inches above the court floor
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