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Post by jcvball22 on Apr 26, 2024 11:27:50 GMT -5
Yes, especially when the other two attackers were better. This really isn't that hard. votings fine. I never said they weren’t. Maybe you missed that Bickford was left off all-american completely? Do you think he was worse than Wickens, Cooper, Fiorenza, Norman, Normandin, Flanagan, Shelly, and Zaharewicz? Wasn't Bickford out for a decent chunk of the season with injury? He may not have cleared the number of games necessary to qualify for AA. It has happened before.
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Post by destroyedlabrum on Apr 26, 2024 11:32:54 GMT -5
I never said they weren’t. Maybe you missed that Bickford was left off all-american completely? Do you think he was worse than Wickens, Cooper, Fiorenza, Norman, Normandin, Flanagan, Shelly, and Zaharewicz? Wasn't Bickford out for a decent chunk of the season with injury? He may not have cleared the number of games necessary to qualify for AA. It has happened before. No, he was named to all-region, meaning he was qualified.
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Post by jcvball22 on Apr 26, 2024 11:36:31 GMT -5
Wasn't Bickford out for a decent chunk of the season with injury? He may not have cleared the number of games necessary to qualify for AA. It has happened before. No, he was named to all-region, meaning he was qualified. Weird. He definitely should have been AA then.
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Post by eastcoasthomer on Apr 26, 2024 12:05:35 GMT -5
Yes, especially when the other two attackers were better. This really isn't that hard. votings fine. I never said they weren’t. Maybe you missed that Bickford was left off all-american completely? Do you think he was worse than Wickens, Cooper, Fiorenza, Norman, Normandin, Flanagan, Shelly, and Zaharewicz? definitely noticed he was left out. definitely didn't deserve all-american this year over those names. get over it.
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Post by destroyedlabrum on Apr 26, 2024 12:09:33 GMT -5
I never said they weren’t. Maybe you missed that Bickford was left off all-american completely? Do you think he was worse than Wickens, Cooper, Fiorenza, Norman, Normandin, Flanagan, Shelly, and Zaharewicz? definitely noticed he was left out. definitely didn't deserve all-american this year over those names. get over it. Braindead.
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Post by eastcoasthomer on Apr 26, 2024 12:22:15 GMT -5
definitely noticed he was left out. definitely didn't deserve all-american this year over those names. get over it. Braindead. brain-dead*
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Post by TheReignman on Apr 26, 2024 12:36:13 GMT -5
I always appreciate transparency in our sport, so I’m hoping to provide some here. As a member of the All-American committee, I was on the call. First of all, the conversation about NPOY really only included the 4 regional players of the year. Any other dialogue on this forum is either misleading or just false. We did take team success into consideration, which really hurt Andrew’s case. Laboo’s efficiency was the difference maker (.413 against ranked opponents compared to .369 from Sheaffer and .341 from Mayotte). Appreciate you giving those guys’ hitting percentages against ranked opponents. I just calculated Percy Bickford’s and it came out to .380. Mind explaining that one Coach Beachy? This is what is so frustrating to me about VT. Someone who is not veiled with anonymity comes out to explain a decision or process for what folks are interested in. When that person does, they are immediately questioned with "why didn't you do X or Y or Z". I was on the All-Region call for Percy's selection. Nobody questioned his talent or ability, but a large chunk of AVCA Awards are statistical evidence based on production. You could cherry pick specific statistics to build a case for many of the nominated athletes reaching All-American status. In Percy's specific case, his point scoring volume was significantly lower than many other honorees, specifically his percentage of points scored for his own team. I am sure if he was on some of the other rosters we would see him scoring more points - but would he be doing it at the same volume? Inversely, if someone like Tim Flanagan or Michael Shelley was on the Stevens roster- I am sure they would be much more efficient with less volume. At the end of the day, I am sure Percy and Coach Buehring will both sleep comfortably at night as they pursue a 2nd straight national title starting at 6:30 PM EST / 5:30 CST
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Post by TheReignman on Apr 26, 2024 12:37:07 GMT -5
Dear average fan, didn't have the heart to tell you that you were not close. It's a pretty simple process if all the committees choose a #1 out of the region it's not hard for the AA committee to follow. The final 4 in each region were very good. Middles rarely get top 3 so it is hard for a committee to pick one. Try to think the last middle in the last 10 years that was a one or a two??? Was Matt Knigge ever one or two? There were not All-Region teams when Matt was at Vassar. NPoY process was different.
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Post by destroyedlabrum on Apr 26, 2024 13:27:29 GMT -5
Appreciate you giving those guys’ hitting percentages against ranked opponents. I just calculated Percy Bickford’s and it came out to .380. Mind explaining that one Coach Beachy? This is what is so frustrating to me about VT. Someone who is not veiled with anonymity comes out to explain a decision or process for what folks are interested in. When that person does, they are immediately questioned with "why didn't you do X or Y or Z". I was on the All-Region call for Percy's selection. Nobody questioned his talent or ability, but a large chunk of AVCA Awards are statistical evidence based on production. You could cherry pick specific statistics to build a case for many of the nominated athletes reaching All-American status. In Percy's specific case, his point scoring volume was significantly lower than many other honorees, specifically his percentage of points scored for his own team. I am sure if he was on some of the other rosters we would see him scoring more points - but would he be doing it at the same volume? Inversely, if someone like Tim Flanagan or Michael Shelley was on the Stevens roster- I am sure they would be much more efficient with less volume. At the end of the day, I am sure Percy and Coach Buehring will both sleep comfortably at night as they pursue a 2nd straight national title starting at 6:30 PM EST / 5:30 CST I appreciate this response. I guess we’ll have a good look tonight as Percy competes against 2 all-american pins!
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Post by gofaster88 on Apr 26, 2024 18:22:34 GMT -5
Stevens up 2-0 down 11-15 in the 3rd set
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Post by gofaster88 on Apr 26, 2024 18:42:14 GMT -5
Cal Lutheran wins the 3rd set 25-22, Stevens up 2-1
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Post by gofaster88 on Apr 26, 2024 19:17:04 GMT -5
Going to a 5th set, Cal Lutheran wins the 4th 25-23.
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Post by gofaster88 on Apr 26, 2024 19:35:59 GMT -5
This match is insane back and forth 5th set. 12-12 in the 5th
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Post by gofaster88 on Apr 26, 2024 19:42:17 GMT -5
An ace down the line to finish the reverse sweep 16-14 Cal Lutheran wins.
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Post by eastcoasthomer on Apr 26, 2024 19:50:55 GMT -5
This is what is so frustrating to me about VT. Someone who is not veiled with anonymity comes out to explain a decision or process for what folks are interested in. When that person does, they are immediately questioned with "why didn't you do X or Y or Z". I was on the All-Region call for Percy's selection. Nobody questioned his talent or ability, but a large chunk of AVCA Awards are statistical evidence based on production. You could cherry pick specific statistics to build a case for many of the nominated athletes reaching All-American status. In Percy's specific case, his point scoring volume was significantly lower than many other honorees, specifically his percentage of points scored for his own team. I am sure if he was on some of the other rosters we would see him scoring more points - but would he be doing it at the same volume? Inversely, if someone like Tim Flanagan or Michael Shelley was on the Stevens roster- I am sure they would be much more efficient with less volume. At the end of the day, I am sure Percy and Coach Buehring will both sleep comfortably at night as they pursue a 2nd straight national title starting at 6:30 PM EST / 5:30 CST I appreciate this response. I guess we’ll have a good look tonight as Percy competes against 2 all-american pins! Maybe if they just had one more all-American the result would have been different.
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