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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 19, 2024 9:08:17 GMT -5
Are county appraisers usually off by 2,300%? I don't think so. Let the truth be told. "Is Mar-a-Lago really worth $1B? Trump’s claim at core of fraud trial" "How much is Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago worth? That’s been a point of contention after a New York judge ruled that the former president exaggerated the Florida property’s value when he said it’s worth at least $420 million and perhaps $1.5 billion." "He noted that one Trump estimate of the club’s value was 2,300% times the Palm Beach County tax appraiser’s valuations, which ranged from $18 million to $37 million." "On those statements, Trump valued Mar-a-Lago as high as $739 million — a figure James said ignored deed restrictions requiring the property to be used as a social club — not a private home. Her lawyers have argued that in his financial statements, Trump should have valued Mar-a-Lago the same way the county does, based on its club status." "Trump’s financial statements, the New York lawyers wrote, valued the club “based on the false and misleading premise that it was an unrestricted residential plot of land that could be sold and used as a private home, which was clearly not the case.”" Was any bank defrauded? Who exactly was defrauded because that is supposedly the crime? Fraud means you’ve cheated somebody out of something. So when no bank would admit they were unhappy who was defrauded. Lying on financial disclosure statements is fraud.
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Post by bobinmd on Feb 19, 2024 9:14:29 GMT -5
Was any bank defrauded? Who exactly was defrauded because that is supposedly the crime? Fraud means you’ve cheated somebody out of something. So when no bank would admit they were unhappy who was defrauded. Lying on financial disclosure statements is fraud. Heck Orange even lied on the RICO booking documents. When one reads the official charges (which Hol won’t do) one can see the crazy huge fraud. But you know uh laptop and er um ‘Democrats’ so there crimes addressed. ✝️
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 19, 2024 9:32:01 GMT -5
Was any bank defrauded? Who exactly was defrauded because that is supposedly the crime? Fraud means you’ve cheated somebody out of something. So when no bank would admit they were unhappy who was defrauded. Lying on financial disclosure statements is fraud. So you’re saying that all real estate developers that inflate their self-worth should be punished with a $350 million decision?Brilliant New York City. Especially when you’ve already lost so much wealth in the first place. Your petty politics is going to cost you your city.But gosh darn it you just wanted to win didn’t you.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 19, 2024 9:33:41 GMT -5
Lying on financial disclosure statements is fraud. So you’re saying that all real estate developers that inflate their self-worth should be punished with a $350 million decision?Brilliant New York City. Especially when you’ve already lost so much wealth in the first place. Your petty politics is going to cost you your city.But gosh darn it you just wanted to win didn’t you. If you don't want to get sued for fraud in New York, don't do fraud in New York.
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Post by bobinmd on Feb 19, 2024 9:35:26 GMT -5
Lying on financial disclosure statements is fraud. So you’re saying that all real estate developers that inflate their self-worth should be punished with a $350 million decision?Brilliant New York City. Especially when you’ve already lost so much wealth in the first place. Your petty politics is going to cost you your city.But gosh darn it you just wanted to win didn’t you. Read at least some of the evidence/charges would ya Hol? If you need assistance ask AmieriCan. 83.3 plus 355 + + MILLION.
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Feb 19, 2024 9:38:13 GMT -5
Lying on financial disclosure statements is fraud. So you’re saying that all real estate developers that inflate their self-worth should be punished with a $350 million decision?Brilliant New York City. Especially when you’ve already lost so much wealth in the first place. Your petty politics is going to cost you your city.But gosh darn it you just wanted to win didn’t you. Many with much lesser inflations have.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 19, 2024 9:39:06 GMT -5
So you’re saying that all real estate developers that inflate their self-worth should be punished with a $350 million decision?Brilliant New York City. Especially when you’ve already lost so much wealth in the first place. Your petty politics is going to cost you your city.But gosh darn it you just wanted to win didn’t you. If you don't want to get sued for fraud in New York, don't do fraud in New York. answer the question. I realize you’re avoiding it like the plague because you know as well as I do it’s political. For once have some balls and say what the truth is.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 19, 2024 9:39:31 GMT -5
So you’re saying that all real estate developers that inflate their self-worth should be punished with a $350 million decision?Brilliant New York City. Especially when you’ve already lost so much wealth in the first place. Your petty politics is going to cost you your city.But gosh darn it you just wanted to win didn’t you. Many with much lesser inflations have. Really? List them.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 19, 2024 9:42:05 GMT -5
If you don't want to get sued for fraud in New York, don't do fraud in New York. answer the question. I realize you’re avoiding it like the plague because you know as well as I do it’s political. For once have some balls and say what the truth is. I think real estate developers who do fraud should face the legal consequences for fraud.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 19, 2024 9:44:18 GMT -5
answer the question. I realize you’re avoiding it like the plague because you know as well as I do it’s political. For once have some balls and say what the truth is. I think real estate developers who do fraud should face the legal consequences for fraud. Great, give other examples of people who have faced the same kind of punishment? Because obviously you believe in political legal warfare. I guess anything is fair in politics? The goal is just to get rid of your political opponent no matter what? That’s democracy at its finest isn’t it in Merv?
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Feb 19, 2024 9:48:32 GMT -5
I think real estate developers who do fraud should face the legal consequences for fraud. Great, give other examples of people who have faced the same kind of punishment? Because obviously you believe in political legal warfare. I guess anything is fair in politics? The goal is just to get rid of your political appointment no matter what? That’s democracy at its finest isn’t it in Merv? Punishment is proportional to the extent and amount involved in the crime, and falsifying business records is the crime. DJT’s Former Campaign Chairman Indicted for Real Estate Fraud and Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, was charged with 16 felonies in connection to residential mortgage fraud, having allegedly lied to take out mortgage loans during 2015 to early 2017. Real estate developer and art collector Michael Shvo enters plea for evading $1M in taxes Real estate developer and collector Michael Shvo, his companies, Shvo Art Ltd. and Seren LLC, and two shipping companies and their principals were indicted in September 2016 in New York City for participating in a scheme to evade the payment of more than $1 million in state and local sales and use taxes associated with the purchase of fine art, furniture, jewelry, and Ferrari 458 Spider. see others www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/survey-new-york-felony-falsification-of-business-records-just-security.pdf
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Post by bobinmd on Feb 19, 2024 10:00:23 GMT -5
Great, give other examples of people who have faced the same kind of punishment? Because obviously you believe in political legal warfare. I guess anything is fair in politics? The goal is just to get rid of your political appointment no matter what? That’s democracy at its finest isn’t it in Merv? Punishment is proportional to the extent and amount involved in the crime, and falsifying business records is the crime. DJT’s Former Campaign Chairman Indicted for Real Estate Fraud and Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, was charged with 16 felonies in connection to residential mortgage fraud, having allegedly lied to take out mortgage loans during 2015 to early 2017. Real estate developer and art collector Michael Shvo enters plea for evading $1M in taxes Real estate developer and collector Michael Shvo, his companies, Shvo Art Ltd. and Seren LLC, and two shipping companies and their principals were indicted in September 2016 in New York City for participating in a scheme to evade the payment of more than $1 million in state and local sales and use taxes associated with the purchase of fine art, furniture, jewelry, and Ferrari 458 Spider. see others www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/survey-new-york-felony-falsification-of-business-records-just-security.pdf Way too many facts for our cult guy. New thread coming? Run Forrest.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 19, 2024 10:14:15 GMT -5
I think real estate developers who do fraud should face the legal consequences for fraud. Great, give other examples of people who have faced the same kind of punishment? Because obviously you believe in political legal warfare. I guess anything is fair in politics? The goal is just to get rid of your political opponent no matter what? That’s democracy at its finest isn’t it in Merv? If the Trump Org broke the law (which seems pretty clear it did), it should face the legal consequences for breaking the law. Again, don't do fraud and you don't have to worry about getting sued for fraud.
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 19, 2024 10:19:26 GMT -5
I think real estate developers who do fraud should face the legal consequences for fraud. Great, give other examples of people who have faced the same kind of punishment? Because obviously you believe in political legal warfare. I guess anything is fair in politics? The goal is just to get rid of your political opponent no matter what? That’s democracy at its finest isn’t it in Merv? That statute is 70 years old, and has been used countless times in New York. Letitia James’s office has used it against Exxon Mobil, the tobacco brand Juul and the pharma executive Martin Shkreli so far. Trump and his lawyers are idiots.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 19, 2024 10:24:01 GMT -5
Great, give other examples of people who have faced the same kind of punishment? Because obviously you believe in political legal warfare. I guess anything is fair in politics? The goal is just to get rid of your political opponent no matter what? That’s democracy at its finest isn’t it in Merv? That statute is 70 years old, and has been used countless times in New York. Letitia James’s office has used it against Exxon Mobil, the tobacco brand Juul and the pharma executive Martin Shkreli so far. Trump and his lawyers are idiots. When you campaign for years on this issue before there’s even a crime? Every single normal person should find that concerning. Even you, as partisan as you are should know that its wrong. I just can’t believe what has happened to peoples integrity when it comes to politics. Because if a Republican candidate came out and said I will definitely prosecute a Democrat before they even knew what the crime was? I would find that horrifying. You people are just awful. You’ve let your party ruin your decency and integrity.If you even had integrity in the first place.
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