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Post by VT Karen on May 13, 2024 20:52:14 GMT -5
Congratulations to Kainoa Wade and the Kamehameha Warriors for winning the Hawaii state title. I didn't think they would do it but they did. Kainoa absolutely took over and denied Punahou a state title for the first time in 10 years. 2 POY awards, 1 state title, probably the best recruit out of the islands since Maâa. Not a bad three year hs career for Kainoa. A fantastic career. I think it is the right move for him to graduate early and get to working on his game for the next level. He was that much better than his local competition and much better than his teammates. Charlie must be very proud. |
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Post by cosmo on May 13, 2024 21:25:27 GMT -5
Iâm confused. People want quality depth but then when UH has a lot of quality depth people talk about that they would/should leave because they wonât get starting roles or should/shouldnât redshirt. Everyone is one injury or bad night away from getting on/off the court. A quality bench pushes the starters. The programâs culture could be one where people understand that there are a lot talented players which fosters healthy competition and are working to make the team better. Look at UCLAâs roster. Itâs full of talented players. Some have redshirted and worked their way onto the court. Some have stepped in when starters have struggled. Why shouldnât this also be the case for UH, to have a stacked bench where people understand their worth while also understanding their roles and what it takes to get on the floor when surrounded by people who could/should start anywhere else. 2 different perspectives. For a teams success, of course any team would love to be multiple all Americans deep at every position. From a players perspective, what kind of all American player would be satisfied riding the bench. |
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Post by thor on May 13, 2024 21:26:34 GMT -5
There are only so many D1 programs for these elite high school players to join. I'm sure other elite programs with humongous roster size and depth like UCLA and Long Beach have elite players sitting on the bench waiting for
their turn at PT. This is far less the situation at Hawaii where the player count is below an average sized roster as is the depth chart. Look at UCLA for instance, Ido has a bad night so in comes Sloan, ditto with Robinson and Rama..Genis not blocking or hitting poorly? no problem...there's big middle McQuiggan! Then there's the Beach with their 5 fab 50 liberos, 8 MBs, 4 setters and gawd knows how many fab 50 pin hitters. If you're going to bemoan playing opportunities for players that sign on with Hawaii, you should really take a look at these other elite programs with overstocked rosters that are twice as large as Hawaii's. Finn has a much higher chance of getting on the court with Hawaii than these other 2 programs and would face at least a similar challenge at any other top 10 program.
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Post by soljah808 on May 13, 2024 22:54:03 GMT -5
Iâm confused. People want quality depth but then when UH has a lot of quality depth people talk about that they would/should leave because they wonât get starting roles or should/shouldnât redshirt. Everyone is one injury or bad night away from getting on/off the court. A quality bench pushes the starters. The programâs culture could be one where people understand that there are a lot talented players which fosters healthy competition and are working to make the team better. Look at UCLAâs roster. Itâs full of talented players. Some have redshirted and worked their way onto the court. Some have stepped in when starters have struggled. Why shouldnât this also be the case for UH, to have a stacked bench where people understand their worth while also understanding their roles and what it takes to get on the floor when surrounded by people who could/should start anywhere else. đŻ spot on! The same ones calling out Charlie for not bringing in depth are the same ones thinking players will high tail it out of here if they don't get on the court immediately. It's hilarious. Fact is, redshirting for Finn and Kainoa may be the way to go. Only the coaches and the player themselves know what they will agree too. We can speculate all we like but we don't truly know the dynamics and moving parts of next season. But Koa does and as he says....the choice will be Finn's to decide. Btw, we had multiple AA's ride the bench their first or second years only to level up and ball out. I think people are so quick to assume these players will bolt. And maybe they will and maybe they won't. But I trust the Hawaii coaches in what they do and trying to build depth and stability for years to come for the program. And we see what happens. |
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Post by soljah808 on May 13, 2024 22:56:18 GMT -5
Iâm confused. People want quality depth but then when UH has a lot of quality depth people talk about that they would/should leave because they wonât get starting roles or should/shouldnât redshirt. Everyone is one injury or bad night away from getting on/off the court. A quality bench pushes the starters. The programâs culture could be one where people understand that there are a lot talented players which fosters healthy competition and are working to make the team better. Look at UCLAâs roster. Itâs full of talented players. Some have redshirted and worked their way onto the court. Some have stepped in when starters have struggled. Why shouldnât this also be the case for UH, to have a stacked bench where people understand their worth while also understanding their roles and what it takes to get on the floor when surrounded by people who could/should start anywhere else. 2 different perspectives. For a teams success, of course any team would love to be multiple all Americans deep at every position. From a players perspective, what kind of all American player would be satisfied riding the bench. We've had a few over the years wait their turn or redshirt and become AA's. Btw, Koa said that's the hope to possibly redshirt them...doesn't mean it will happen most especially if the player doesn't want it to happen. We see but it's good to say we have a group of players coming in that could all start potentially! |
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Post by ManapuaSurprise on May 13, 2024 23:36:13 GMT -5
finn is an absolute baller and will immediately be considered to start on one of the pins. i just think itâs funny how everyone was so high on him when he first committed. hawaii fans are very bi polar and sometimes need a reality check. I think fans tend to fall in love with the latest best thing. Itâs just human nature, I guess. Finn committed about 2 years ago so we all used up all our love for him. Then Louis, Adrien and now Kainoa come aboard and we forget about our previous love. If another stud was to be announced joining the team, you can bet fans will fall for this kid too. If Josh Aruya, Cam Thorne, or Wesley Smith was to announce a transfer to Hawaii, Kurt Nusterer will be push back to âyesterdayâs newsâ. đ dont forget the japanese libero thats comin in |
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Post by brooselee on May 13, 2024 23:56:29 GMT -5
I think fans tend to fall in love with the latest best thing. Itâs just human nature, I guess. Finn committed about 2 years ago so we all used up all our love for him. Then Louis, Adrien and now Kainoa come aboard and we forget about our previous love. If another stud was to be announced joining the team, you can bet fans will fall for this kid too. If Josh Aruya, Cam Thorne, or Wesley Smith was to announce a transfer to Hawaii, Kurt Nusterer will be push back to âyesterdayâs newsâ. đ dont forget the japanese libero thats comin in I don't think Fukie Yamada coming. Too much da kine going around when his name is mentioned. đ
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Post by gravity77 on May 15, 2024 18:27:23 GMT -5
Clay Wieter to Hawaii. Posted his commitment on IG.
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Post by raian13 on May 15, 2024 19:11:28 GMT -5
Clay Wieter to Hawaii. Posted his commitment on IG. Confirmed! |
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Post by hapaguy on May 15, 2024 20:00:29 GMT -5
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Post by wahinefan on May 15, 2024 20:21:56 GMT -5
With all the players committing to the Hawaii Men's Volleyball Team, we do know that Charlie Wade and Staff have been working hard and doing their job. That cannot be said on the Wahine Volleyball side. It does not seem like Robyn and her staff, have truly been working hard at all. It does not even seem like Robyn and her staff even go on recruiting trips. Only thing you hear, is how much Robyn is involved in coaching Club Volleyball. Robyn is not being paid to coach Club Volleyball, Robyn needs to understand she is being paid to be the Wahine Volleyball Team's Head Coach.
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Post by klumfanatic on May 15, 2024 20:39:29 GMT -5
Charlie Wade's job is to secure the best players he can and then find players that are better to replace them. That's the nature of the beast. It is called competition...albeit at the highest level. Look it is sad to see some players like Thiim, Yewchuk, Sheward...leave for other schools, but there are only 7 starters. On an elite level team some guys that would be starters in any other program are on the bench. That's why those programs are elite...depth. If players are not happy being a back up, then ok, let them go and wish them the best. We want guys that want to be here and will fight to make UH the best.
It is much better than saying we got a great top 6 or 7 and if they all stay healthy and have good nights we can compete with anyone. Because we all know injuries and off nights happen. Look at Spyros. These are 18-22 year old boys. Wild things happen. Wade's job, if he wants to hunt for national titles, is to bring in as many great players as he can and then let it sort out, and that's exactly what he is doing.
I'm not a huge fan of the transfer portal in any sport of the NCAAs. I think while it gives players mobility to do what is best for themselves, it also gives them an out to build character, experience failure and then grow. So it is a double edged sword. You want the guys that will fight through adversity because that makes them stronger. The guys that move on for no good reason...and there are good reasons to move on...are not the type you want to be the fabric of your team.
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Post by goblin on May 15, 2024 21:20:08 GMT -5
Welcome to Hawaii Clay! Weiter is a solid and much needed addition to our team. Now if Santa Wade can just deliver us another experienced middle and a third seasoned setter that would be great.
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Post by ManapuaSurprise on May 15, 2024 22:12:49 GMT -5
Clay Wieter to Hawaii. Posted his commitment on IG. Good experience and memory for him to play for more than 314 in the stands |
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Post by brooselee on May 15, 2024 22:33:22 GMT -5
Clay Wieter to Hawaii. Posted his commitment on IG. Good experience and memory for him to play for more than 314 in the stands âŠand fans wanting his autograph, taking his picture and giving him leis of local goodies. A chance for him to be a celebrity for one season. |
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