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Post by ay2013 on Aug 27, 2024 23:54:31 GMT -5
IMO this loss is squarely on Sheffields inability to grab an OH from the portal. Blah setting is to be expected, it's the first match of the season - we saw poor setting in the Kentucky/Nebraska match as well. But the bigger problem is that Wisconsin doesn't have an outlet option on the left side for three rotations. For a program the caliber of Wisconsin, who has national championship aspirations, is coaching negligence not to have a viable option on the left side at all times. I mean, it was supposed to be Landfair. Instead she's on the bench at Nebraska. It's tough to go after someone else when you think Landfair is all locked up, and then she isn't. Ok but there were still better options than having a player you almost refuse to set, and even then, said player still hits 2-3-15 . Shadd-Ceres certainly isn't always going to have that stat line, but it's just unacceptable that she is the OH floor for Wisconsin in any given match right now - that's a pretty low floor. Even if they didn't get Landfair, you can't tell me nobody else in the portal wanted to go to Wisconsin.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 27, 2024 23:59:22 GMT -5
I mean, it was supposed to be Landfair. Instead she's on the bench at Nebraska. It's tough to go after someone else when you think Landfair is all locked up, and then she isn't. Ok but there were still better options than having a player you almost refuse to set, and even then, said player still hits 2-3-15 . Shadd-Ceres certainly isn't always going to have that stat line, but it's just unacceptable that she is the OH floor for Wisconsin in any given match right now - that's a pretty low floor. Even if they didn't get Landfair, you can't tell me nobody else in the portal wanted to go to Wisconsin. I'm not going to tell you that. What I am going to tell you is that she chose Nebraska a little late in the portal process, after a lot of players had made their choice. Not only are you getting in on players late, but it's apparent you didn't think enough of them to go after them in the first place, while other schools made them their priority. I'm sure if Sheffield had to do it over again, he'd pursue someone else, but he had every indication he was getting Landfair...until he didn't. That throws everything off.
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Post by pittsburgh7717 on Aug 28, 2024 0:03:45 GMT -5
So when Louisville moves to the 5-1, which oppo goes to the bench?
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Post by huskersoftroy on Aug 28, 2024 0:03:55 GMT -5
I wonder why he didn’t sign anymore prep outsides in his 22/23 classes? Getting an outside from the portal every year doesn’t seem sustainable.
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Post by Burly Ives on Aug 28, 2024 0:05:11 GMT -5
Watch again! The announcers even name dropped TSC for her heads up play a couple times. I acknowledged that she didn't have a good game but not having a block, poor passing, and a setter that was pretty erratic after Set 1 gave us little chance. And her getting name dropped didn’t help her team win 😭 It’s gonna be very hard to beat a top 5 team while only getting 2 kills from your second OH spot. Like kudos to her for going out there and trying in her first match, but there was definitely an impact. Not the deciding factor. Service errors. If she is as 'bad' as you say Sheffield could have easily brought in Carly to set and moved Charlie in as OH. Surely Charlie would have performed better then the 'awful' TSC right? Right!??
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Post by northwoods on Aug 28, 2024 0:05:15 GMT -5
Kudos to ESPN radio Madison for staying with the volleyball coverage well after the game.Caught the Sheffield presser& there will be some players putting more time & effort in practicing their serving….
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Post by princessavb on Aug 28, 2024 0:08:09 GMT -5
With the whole 6-2 and 5-1 one thing for Lou, i personally think its gonna be used for most of the season i mean they played lights out with it in se 4 they got comfy with a 6-2
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Post by xlumie on Aug 28, 2024 0:12:00 GMT -5
I don’t think the affects of TSC are being truly grasped here either. not to put unfair blame on TSC, but Charlie was sending some very questionable sets to Sarah back row that would’ve otherwise likely gone to Orzol but since there was no trust with TSC, they were forcing a weird behind pipe thing that was NOT working either. also the block was able to load up on Smrek bc TSC wasn’t a threat. Orzol when 100% will be a MUCH better option, even if it’s just having her passing for 6ro instead of 3. So are we also going to blame TSC on the myriad of poor sets from Charlie to Anna and Dev. She was not good from Sets 2 on forward. She was outplayed by both Louisville setters. If TSC is so poor then put Charlie (which she is very capable) in at OH and bring in Anderson at setter. You guys are being entirely overly critical of TSC. Charli can play OH?
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Post by saywhatnow on Aug 28, 2024 0:14:02 GMT -5
I know they don’t have this kid picking up someone’s lost gum!!! 🤢🤮🥴
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Aug 28, 2024 0:14:33 GMT -5
So are we also going to blame TSC on the myriad of poor sets from Charlie to Anna and Dev. She was not good from Sets 2 on forward. She was outplayed by both Louisville setters. If TSC is so poor then put Charlie (which she is very capable) in at OH and bring in Anderson at setter. You guys are being entirely overly critical of TSC. Charli can play OH? Not at the D1 level lmao. That poster just has some beef with Charlie, and so wants to build up TSC to try to put all the blame on Charlie's setting for this loss.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 28, 2024 0:15:09 GMT -5
IMO this loss is squarely on Sheffields inability to grab an OH from the portal. Blah setting is to be expected, it's the first match of the season - we saw poor setting in the Kentucky/Nebraska match as well. But the bigger problem is that Wisconsin doesn't have an outlet option on the left side for three rotations. For a program the caliber of Wisconsin, who has national championship aspirations, is coaching negligence not to have a viable option on the left side at all times. I mean, it was supposed to be Landfair. Instead she's on the bench at Nebraska. It's tough to go after someone else when you think Landfair is all locked up, and then she isn't. Shall we make Ms. Landfair volleytalk famous and coin her name? To pull a "Landfair" or to be "Landfaired" is when a program expects a commitment from a player, but said player reneges before making the actual commitment, thus leaving the program in a lurch.
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Post by dodger on Aug 28, 2024 0:17:02 GMT -5
Watch again! The announcers even name dropped TSC for her heads up play a couple times. I acknowledged that she didn't have a good game but not having a block, poor passing, and a setter that was pretty erratic after Set 1 gave us little chance. And her getting name dropped didn’t help her team win 😭 It’s gonna be very hard to beat a top 5 team while only getting 2 kills from your second OH spot. Like kudos to her for going out there and trying in her first match, but there was definitely an impact. TSC(?) Wisc. OH was not in the OH 2 Spot:she was playing the OH1 spot: so Franklin is in front row twice with smrek and the freshman is only with smrek 1 time: which means the hitter helping new OH carry the load is Franklin; i know franklin had bad ankle from USA thing: but her rapid weight loss seems to also have effected her ball velocity?? A guess: but Wisconsin’s issue will be low and shaky number of quality OH’s: and outside pressure, and a freshman setter with lots of expectations on her. Along with a tough pre-season schedule. Wisc stay into the process you’ll come out other end ok!!!
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Post by slxpress on Aug 28, 2024 0:24:10 GMT -5
I mean, it was supposed to be Landfair. Instead she's on the bench at Nebraska. It's tough to go after someone else when you think Landfair is all locked up, and then she isn't. Shall we make Ms. Landfair volleytalk famous and coin her name? To pull a "Landfair" or to be "Landfaired" is when a program expects a commitment from a player, but said player reneges before making the actual commitment, thus leaving the program in a lurch. I felt like Ayden Ames did that a little bit to Nebraska. But that was before they brought in Leyla Blackwell of all people to be a backup. I think the real lesson is that it pays to be able to run circles around everyone else in NIL money. It’s Nebraska by a country mile, then Texas waaay behind Nebraska, and then you can’t even see the next program after those two everyone else is so far behind. I don’t understand how this settlement is going to change things. Only that it’s going to change things a lot. But everything is in such flux. However, in terms of volleyball Nebraska simply dwarfs everyone else in resources. Outside of something like what happened to Nijaree Canady in softball, where Texas Tech grossly over paid her with a $1 million deal, Nebraska is going to win every portal battle if compensation is a factor. Nebraska really chopped Wisconsin at the knees with this one. No question about it.
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Post by Fight On! on Aug 28, 2024 0:24:26 GMT -5
Is Orzol injured?
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Aug 28, 2024 0:27:26 GMT -5
Yes, she has an ankle/shin injury that’s limited her ability to jump in practice, which is why she only played backrow tonight and didn’t play in the exhibition match.
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