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Post by aardvark on Sept 8, 2024 14:56:45 GMT -5
A jump straight up to #9 for Miami seems like a stretch after one big win. And Arkansas is far too high with that ridiculously soft schedule. I don't think people should vote based on "last week" or jumping, but you can all have your theories. If people move their polls based on week 1 and preseason... isn't is possible their polls are "off" and it's faulty all-together? I'll agree with you re: Arkansas, but not because of their schedule, but because I don't think they're that great of a team. If this was NCAA Football - where would Miami be after winning at the #1 team's house and being undefeated? Miami's wins over Colorado and Indiana aren't certainly anything to turn your nose at either. But Madden and Blue both hate Miami, so there's that. |
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Post by trojansc on Sept 8, 2024 14:57:37 GMT -5
I don't think people should vote based on "last week" or jumping, but you can all have your theories. If people move their polls based on week 1 and preseason... isn't is possible their polls are "off" and it's faulty all-together? I'll agree with you re: Arkansas, but not because of their schedule, but because I don't think they're that great of a team. If this was NCAA Football - where would Miami be after winning at the #1 team's house and being undefeated? Miami's wins over Colorado and Indiana aren't certainly anything to turn your nose at either. But Madden and Blue both hate Miami, so there's that. Miami was #16 in Massey before the Texas win. Plus like, who is that Grace Lopez kid anyways? None of these NCAA'ers were watching what she did to a good Team USA squad. |
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Post by trojansc on Sept 8, 2024 14:59:21 GMT -5
Early in the season, I like to rank aggressively on wins/losses. Undefeated teams who beat quality competition deserve to be at the top of the polls. Now, teams like Wisconsin, Texas, and others who play brutal schedules are given some credit but I'm also not giving a Florida a pass because of injuries. I'm voting based on the personnel they are putting on the court now. Florida doesn't have much of a win and has a bad loss to South Florida. I'm not ranking them on potential return's of Stucky and Martin.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Sept 8, 2024 14:59:53 GMT -5
I don't think people should vote based on "last week" or jumping, but you can all have your theories. If people move their polls based on week 1 and preseason... isn't is possible their polls are "off" and it's faulty all-together? I'll agree with you re: Arkansas, but not because of their schedule, but because I don't think they're that great of a team. If this was NCAA Football - where would Miami be after winning at the #1 team's house and being undefeated? Miami's wins over Colorado and Indiana aren't certainly anything to turn your nose at either. But Madden and Blue both hate Miami, so there's that. "Both" |
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Post by uofaGRAD on Sept 8, 2024 15:01:18 GMT -5
I preemptively have Miami at like 10 or 11 and Texas at 12🤷♂️
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Post by NYCHusker on Sept 8, 2024 15:03:40 GMT -5
A jump straight up to #9 for Miami seems like a stretch after one big win. And Arkansas is far too high with that ridiculously soft schedule. I don't think people should vote based on "last week" or jumping, but you can all have your theories. If people move their polls based on week 1 and preseason... isn't is possible their polls are "off" and it's faulty all-together? I'll agree with you re: Arkansas, but not because of their schedule, but because I don't think they're that great of a team. If this was NCAA Football - where would Miami be after winning at the #1 team's house and being undefeated? Miami's wins over Colorado and Indiana aren't certainly anything to turn your nose at either. Yeah, that's not unfair. I'll definitely have them ranked - I think I'm just overly skeptical after watching SMU and Minny take down the #1 and #2 teams and then turn around drop matches right away. |
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Post by trojansc on Sept 8, 2024 15:05:55 GMT -5
My top 5:
Penn State, Pittsburgh, Creighton, Stanford, Miami-FL.
Fight me.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 8, 2024 15:13:01 GMT -5
But Madden and Blue both hate Miami, so there's that. "Both" Work with me here. If we put just a little effort in, we could keep this joke going for a few more years. |
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Post by hornshouse23 on Sept 8, 2024 15:21:35 GMT -5
I don't think people should vote based on "last week" or jumping, but you can all have your theories. If people move their polls based on week 1 and preseason... isn't is possible their polls are "off" and it's faulty all-together? I'll agree with you re: Arkansas, but not because of their schedule, but because I don't think they're that great of a team. If this was NCAA Football - where would Miami be after winning at the #1 team's house and being undefeated? Miami's wins over Colorado and Indiana aren't certainly anything to turn your nose at either. Yeah, that's not unfair. I'll definitely have them ranked - I think I'm just overly skeptical after watching SMU and Minny take down the #1 and #2 teams and then turn around drop matches right away. I don’t think those teams performance post significant wins should color Miami’s ranking until they lose. Sure they could pull an SMU. But they haven’t… that’s where I am at least |
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Post by aardvark on Sept 8, 2024 15:22:15 GMT -5
Early in the season, I like to rank aggressively on wins/losses. Undefeated teams who beat quality competition deserve to be at the top of the polls. Now, teams like Wisconsin, Texas, and others who play brutal schedules are given some credit but I'm also not giving a Florida a pass because of injuries. I'm voting based on the personnel they are putting on the court now. Florida doesn't have much of a win and has a bad loss to South Florida. I'm not ranking them on potential return's of Stucky and Martin. Florida will have an opportunity for another good win on Wednesday, when they come to Atlanta to play GT. It's a revenge match for them, after we bipped them off in the second round of last year's tourney. |
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Post by trojansc on Sept 8, 2024 15:27:36 GMT -5
Yeah, that's not unfair. I'll definitely have them ranked - I think I'm just overly skeptical after watching SMU and Minny take down the #1 and #2 teams and then turn around drop matches right away. I don’t think those teams performance post significant wins should color Miami’s ranking until they lose. Sure they could pull an SMU. But they haven’t… that’s where I am at least Correct. They also could have been caught looking ahead of Texas instead of taking care of business with Indiana in the same week. Indiana is not top 25 in my books, but definitely an at-large contender. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2024 15:27:49 GMT -5
Will this be Pitt’s first #1 ranking ever? not if penn state jumps them Please, NO!! Penn State doesn't need that curse. We'd be happy at # 3, after Stanford and Pitt. |
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Post by NYCHusker on Sept 8, 2024 15:30:37 GMT -5
Yeah, that's not unfair. I'll definitely have them ranked - I think I'm just overly skeptical after watching SMU and Minny take down the #1 and #2 teams and then turn around drop matches right away. I don’t think those teams performance post significant wins should color Miami’s ranking until they lose. Sure they could pull an SMU. But they haven’t… that’s where I am at least I don't disagree. I think it's just easy, when you watch a lot of volleyball, to notice trends and let it affect your outlook. But I definitely want to play fair. I haven't come close to finalizing my rankings and this is definitely healthy discussion haha. |
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Post by hornshouse23 on Sept 8, 2024 15:33:08 GMT -5
I don’t think those teams performance post significant wins should color Miami’s ranking until they lose. Sure they could pull an SMU. But they haven’t… that’s where I am at least I don't disagree. I think it's just easy, when you watch a lot of volleyball, to notice trends and let it affect your outlook. But I definitely want to play fair. I haven't come close to finalizing my rankings and this is definitely healthy discussion haha. You could also look at a team like San Diego ‘22. Kept winning and winning and everyone was waiting for the flub up until the regional, and they didn’t. Not saying that’s Miami, but there’s evidence on both sides, albeit not as much just saying. |
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Post by jwvolley on Sept 8, 2024 15:35:45 GMT -5
I don't disagree. I think it's just easy, when you watch a lot of volleyball, to notice trends and let it affect your outlook. But I definitely want to play fair. I haven't come close to finalizing my rankings and this is definitely healthy discussion haha. You could also look at a team like San Diego ‘23. Kept winning and winning and everyone was waiting for the club up until the regional, and they didn’t. Not saying that’s Miami, but there’s evidence on both sides, albeit not as much just saying. 22 |
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