|
|
Post by avid 2.0 on Sept 9, 2024 11:17:18 GMT -5
well their ranking is probably more nuanced than just head to head wins. all of those matches went to five sets and had many match points saved... So basically, because Wisconsin folded like a cheap suit against Texas in sets 3 and 4, that's more impactful than the fact that Wisconsin went 2-2 (with the more recent wins) against the same set of opponents that Minnesota went 1-3 against. Nuance. Okay, I guess I buy it. I mean, I don't, but when rankings teams that are 1-3 or 2-3 you need to be using nuance. Frankly, as a Badger fan I'm stunned no one ranked them below 13* even though all their losses were against opponents ranked in the top 5 ... oh wait Texas, what happened? *except hornshouse? is their vote not official? its not my ranking so they can explain more. Minnesota has a win over Texas, Wisconsin doesnt. Minnesota went five sets with Stanford, Wisconsin didnt. All four results between Minnesota/Wisconsin/TCU/Baylor were decided by almost the minimal amount of points possible, with match points saved across the board. Thats why I said it's more nuanced than just straight wins/losses. If they want to say Minnesota's other results are stronger, they're free to do that. also getting mad about a VT poll at 11am on a monday is something. its quite literally meaningless. |
|
bluepenquin
Hall of Fame
4-Time VolleyTalk Poster of the Year (2019, 2018, 2017, 2016), All-VolleyTalk 1st Team (2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016) All-VolleyTalk 2nd Team 2023
Posts: 13,316 
|
Post by bluepenquin on Sept 9, 2024 11:19:48 GMT -5
If Creighton drops just one of these matches, do we think the committee will pull a San Diego and not let them host a regional? Creighton's schedule is much tougher than what San Diego's was that year. I see the potential for 8 RPI T25 teams on their schedule. Marquette could be T25 - and Creighton could play them 3X. USC right now is a borderline T25 team - along with Purdue. Nebraska, Louisville, and Kansas look like T10 teams. What makes this much harder - Nebraska, Louisville, and Kansas are all road games. Thus far - Creighton has only played at home. I am very curious how many Creighton can lose and be a regional host. They go undefeated - they are a sure bet for a regional host. I think they are a sure thing with undefeated in the non conference and 1 missed step in conference. I just don't have a good feel yet on whether a 1 or a 2 loss season gets them there? I assume 1 loss probably gets them there, but that is just a guess at this point. |
|
|
|
Post by NYCHusker on Sept 9, 2024 11:20:33 GMT -5
You're a monster and this is garbage! (kidding) After all that waffling yesterday, I ended up giving Miami more credit than I should have. But I was trying to weigh out quality of schedule between the undefeateds, while still keeping perspective on the one-loss power teams. Curious what you're seeing in Kentucky to put them so high? (Not coming for you, they're better than I thought they would be) I’ve seen a few of their matches and they look really scary to me, in comparison to what I’ve seen across the board. They have stretches of inconsistency, but I thought they were competitive in their losses. If I’m honest, early weeks are about a lot of vibes simply because how do you gauge quality of win until you have a higher sample size. Makes sense. They're pretty talented. And yeah, I hear you. I tend to lean on numbers too much sometimes, which is hard this time of year. |
|
|
|
Post by WahineFan44 on Sept 9, 2024 11:20:48 GMT -5
1. Penn state
2. Pitt
3. Stanford
4. Creighton
5. Nebraskan
6. Texas
7. Louisville
8. Wisconsin
9. Purdue
10. Kentucky
11. Oregon
12. Miami
13. Kansas
14. Minnesota
15. TCU
16. BYU
17. Arizona state
18. Tennessee
19. USC
20. Baylor
21. Hawaii
22. Florida state
23. Florida
24. SMU
25. Marquette
My ranking is horrendous and you may kill me for it.
|
|
trojansc
Legend
All-VolleyTalk 1st Team (2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017), All-VolleyTalk 2nd Team (2016), 2021, 2019 Fantasy League Champion, 2020 Fantasy League Runner Up, 2022 2nd Runner Up
Posts: 31,671
|
Post by trojansc on Sept 9, 2024 11:24:38 GMT -5
"Scheduling and winning quality matches in the non-conference does not matter" - me, I have said this phrase several times ranting about the committee, but it could be applicable in some instances here lol
|
|
trojansc
Legend
All-VolleyTalk 1st Team (2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017), All-VolleyTalk 2nd Team (2016), 2021, 2019 Fantasy League Champion, 2020 Fantasy League Runner Up, 2022 2nd Runner Up
Posts: 31,671
|
Post by trojansc on Sept 9, 2024 11:25:37 GMT -5
Creighton's schedule is much tougher than what San Diego's was that year. I see the potential for 8 RPI T25 teams on their schedule. Marquette could be T25 - and Creighton could play them 3X. USC right now is a borderline T25 team - along with Purdue. Nebraska, Louisville, and Kansas look like T10 teams. What makes this much harder - Nebraska, Louisville, and Kansas are all road games. Thus far - Creighton has only played at home. I am very curious how many Creighton can lose and be a regional host. They go undefeated - they are a sure bet for a regional host. I think they are a sure thing with undefeated in the non conference and 1 missed step in conference. I just don't have a good feel yet on whether a 1 or a 2 loss season gets them there? I assume 1 loss probably gets them there, but that is just a guess at this point. Pretty sure San Diego only had 3 Top 25 teams on their schedule the year they wanted a regional. They got hurt by BYU missing out 2x (BYU was #26). USC was #25, which gave Stanford two extra top 25 wins, and the edge over San Diego probably. It would have great to see if BYU/USC were flopped if USD would have gotten the regional. |
|
|
|
Post by NYCHusker on Sept 9, 2024 11:29:00 GMT -5
Creighton's schedule is much tougher than what San Diego's was that year. I see the potential for 8 RPI T25 teams on their schedule. Marquette could be T25 - and Creighton could play them 3X. USC right now is a borderline T25 team - along with Purdue. Nebraska, Louisville, and Kansas look like T10 teams. What makes this much harder - Nebraska, Louisville, and Kansas are all road games. Thus far - Creighton has only played at home. I am very curious how many Creighton can lose and be a regional host. They go undefeated - they are a sure bet for a regional host. I think they are a sure thing with undefeated in the non conference and 1 missed step in conference. I just don't have a good feel yet on whether a 1 or a 2 loss season gets them there? I assume 1 loss probably gets them there, but that is just a guess at this point. They've gotta hope for more from the Big East. Marquette and St. John's have some good RPI games on their non-con schedule, but it drops off after that. So I'd think that they'd be afforded no more than 2 losses, with maybe one in non-con and one in conference. Just my guess, though. |
|
|
|
Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 9, 2024 11:32:56 GMT -5
Some of the submissions are laughable. Especially those that left SMU unranked while putting Nebraska in their top 10. SMU swept Nebraska, hello?
|
|
|
|
Post by vbprisoner on Sept 9, 2024 11:33:34 GMT -5
1. Penn state 2. Pitt 3. Stanford 4. Creighton 5. Nebraskan 6. Texas 7. Louisville 8. Wisconsin 9. Purdue 10. Kentucky 11. Oregon 12. Miami 13. Kansas 14. Minnesota 15. TCU 16. BYU 17. Arizona state 18. Tennessee 19. USC 20. Baylor 21. Hawaii 22. Florida state 23. Florida 24. SMU 25. Marquette My ranking is horrendous and you may kill me for it. LMAO... Is your #5 a Freudian slip because deep down you wish you were one?  |
|
|
|
Post by hornshouse23 on Sept 9, 2024 11:34:49 GMT -5
1. Penn state 2. Pitt 3. Stanford 4. Creighton 5. Nebraskan 6. Texas 7. Louisville 8. Wisconsin 9. Purdue 10. Kentucky 11. Oregon 12. Miami 13. Kansas 14. Minnesota 15. TCU 16. BYU 17. Arizona state 18. Tennessee 19. USC 20. Baylor 21. Hawaii 22. Florida state 23. Florida 24. SMU 25. Marquette My ranking is horrendous and you may kill me for it. I can’t with you and Penn/pitt. You know you’re wrong for that. |
|
trojansc
Legend
All-VolleyTalk 1st Team (2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017), All-VolleyTalk 2nd Team (2016), 2021, 2019 Fantasy League Champion, 2020 Fantasy League Runner Up, 2022 2nd Runner Up
Posts: 31,671
|
Post by trojansc on Sept 9, 2024 11:35:33 GMT -5
Some of the submissions are laughable. Especially those that left SMU unranked while putting Nebraska in their top 10. SMU swept Nebraska, hello? The SMU loss to LMU really threw a wrench in a lot of people's rankings probably. |
|
|
|
Post by NYCHusker on Sept 9, 2024 11:35:53 GMT -5
Some of the submissions are laughable. Especially those that left SMU unranked while putting Nebraska in their top 10. SMU swept Nebraska, hello? And then lost to LMU a few days later |
|
|
|
Post by WahineFan44 on Sept 9, 2024 11:38:11 GMT -5
1. Penn state 2. Pitt 3. Stanford 4. Creighton 5. Nebraskan 6. Texas 7. Louisville 8. Wisconsin 9. Purdue 10. Kentucky 11. Oregon 12. Miami 13. Kansas 14. Minnesota 15. TCU 16. BYU 17. Arizona state 18. Tennessee 19. USC 20. Baylor 21. Hawaii 22. Florida state 23. Florida 24. SMU 25. Marquette My ranking is horrendous and you may kill me for it. I can’t with you and Penn/pitt. You know you’re wrong for that. I have had Penn state as #1 agenda since week one sister And their win over Louisville reinforced that I’m not backing down. #gokittycats |
|
|
|
Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 9, 2024 11:39:33 GMT -5
Some of the submissions are laughable. Especially those that left SMU unranked while putting Nebraska in their top 10. SMU swept Nebraska, hello? The SMU loss to LMU really threw a wrench in a lot of people's rankings probably. Yikes, I missed that! |
|
|
|
Post by GatorsChomp on Sept 9, 2024 11:39:54 GMT -5
To the people who didn’t rank Florida… you will begin to cough in 7 days
|
|
