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Post by robtearle on Sept 22, 2024 15:20:57 GMT -5
Schumacher looks like she's the libero, at least for now. But her serving, IMO, has been less than great; not "bad", but could be better. So one possibility that occurs to me is that you could see a "second libero" who is nothing more that a serving sub for her, that costs you nothing in terms of the substitution count. It's nothing they've done so far, but a possibility I was thinking about last night. Before I saw - and recognized the benefits of - using a pair of Ls for serve / receive, I thought that what you said was the only half-useful reason for utilizing two Liberos. It seems like a potentially risky move, though, to tie up a good serving sub to just one position, for just the benefit of a substitution-savings. Once a 'small' has come in to serve in a set, they're locked into the role for the set; they can't serve sub for a middle, and then also for a left; eg. And you can change your libero designation(s) from set to set. But I'm not talking about someone who would otherwise be used as a DS - GG, in Wisconsin's case. Maile Chan, for example, or the #3 setter, Morgan Van Wie could be a libero-SS, if their serving is enough better (no idea if they are; both have served in matches but only once (?) each). |
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Post by 25or624 on Sept 22, 2024 15:24:47 GMT -5
I don't care who does it, but we need to see the resurrection of The Badger Block. Carter seems a bit off and things look a little haphazard at times.
Go bigs, Go Badgers. Much harder to block in a 5-1 because you have three rotations of Fuerbringer in the front row. Opponents are going to attack Fuerbringer every chance they get. They certainly have been doing that with significant success at times. I guess we will add this to the list of things that are likely to improve as the season wears on and the front row gets more practice and game reps together. |
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Post by maigrey on Sept 22, 2024 16:00:03 GMT -5
Before I saw - and recognized the benefits of - using a pair of Ls for serve / receive, I thought that what you said was the only half-useful reason for utilizing two Liberos. It seems like a potentially risky move, though, to tie up a good serving sub to just one position, for just the benefit of a substitution-savings. Once a 'small' has come in to serve in a set, they're locked into the role for the set; they can't serve sub for a middle, and then also for a left; eg. And you can change your libero designation(s) from set to set. But I'm not talking about someone who would otherwise be used as a DS - GG, in Wisconsin's case. Maile Chan, for example, or the #3 setter, Morgan Van Wie could be a libero-SS, if their serving is enough better (no idea if they are; both have served in matches but only once (?) each). Yeah, maybe Maile gets the L2. |
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Post by Wiswell on Sept 22, 2024 16:09:18 GMT -5
I haven't read much about Minnesota this year. Playing well but under the radar?
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 22, 2024 17:00:20 GMT -5
Looks like the L jersey is Schumacher's alone to lose - although her passing has been a little less solid of late, so we'll see. GG is DSing for whoever is playing RS. That looks to be Smrek now that she seems to have recovered - but could be Devyn the injury flares up again. When Smrek plays, the middle has been a rotation of Booth, Robinson and CC. I'm not sure which starts this match - but I think they are leaning toward using CC as a blocking sub for charley when serving with Orzol in the front row. Last night they switched to CC instead of Devyn for the third set. And I wondered if it might have been because Devyn dumped a couple serves into the net at 'critical' times. Lots of factors to consider, but "a good problem to have". Devyn also had a couple blocking errors in a row just before the switch if I remember. Good service run to begin, but it was not her best night in the end. Anyway, this is why I'm not sure who Sheff will go with. |
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 22, 2024 17:44:21 GMT -5
Not the ideal match to open league play for the Badgers. They have not had much success in The Pav over the years, and they are improving but not there yet.
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Post by maigrey on Sept 22, 2024 17:56:47 GMT -5
I AM SO READY FOR THIS
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 22, 2024 18:00:42 GMT -5
Yeah. Still too early for the badgers. The match against TAMU wasn't totally convincing to me. Ill be interested to see how they play now the real matches are starting.
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Post by maigrey on Sept 22, 2024 18:05:14 GMT -5
Yeah. Still too early for the badgers. The match against TAMU wasn't totally convincing to me. Ill be interested to see how they play now the real matches are starting. yeah, but how are Mel's fingers? She had a down week last week :/ |
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Post by 25or624 on Sept 22, 2024 18:21:16 GMT -5
Yeah. Still too early for the badgers. The match against TAMU wasn't totally convincing to me. Ill be interested to see how they play now the real matches are starting. yeah, but how are Mel's fingers? She had a down week last week :/ It would be nice to have some input from Gopher fans, but this is what I have picked up from dropping in on the regular Gopher thread and the match threads:
1. Generally, it looks like The Gophers are similar to The Badgers in that they are working their way through some rough spots. 2. Most noticeable to me are McKenna Wucherer's struggles. This seems to have opened the door to playing time for Hanson and Acevedo [?] 3. No Kylie Murr. I believe "Z" is coming along nicely, but I'm not totally clear on the libero situation. 4. Lydia Grote has been a bit up and down. 5. Generally, might be a little tougher in the middle?
So, this year's Gophers and Badgers are not last years teams redux. This puts us in Mother Gump territory, i.e. "You never know what you'll get". I hope everyone rises to the occasion and both teams play a great match. |
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Post by maigrey on Sept 22, 2024 18:53:39 GMT -5
yeah, but how are Mel's fingers? She had a down week last week :/ It would be nice to have some input from Gopher fans, but this is what I have picked up from dropping in on the regular Gopher thread and the match threads:
1. Generally, it looks like The Gophers are similar to The Badgers in that they are working their way through some rough spots. 2. Most noticeable to me are McKenna Wucherer's struggles. This seems to have opened the door to playing time for Hanson and Acevedo [?] 3. No Kylie Murr. I believe "Z" is coming along nicely, but I'm not totally clear on the libero situation. 4. Lydia Grote has been a bit up and down. 5. Generally, might be a little tougher in the middle?
So, this year's Gophers and Badgers are not last years teams redux. This puts us in Mother Gump territory, i.e. "You never know what you'll get". I hope everyone rises to the occasion and both teams play a great match. MN and ILL are my second teams so I follow them pretty closely. McKenna hasn't been dressed for the last 2 games (I think), but before that she had a SS (Acevedo), and struggled in the BR. With McKenna out, Acevedo has been getting 6 ro reps, and she is good. Hanson has blossomed into a stud. 3.06 kps, 0.36 saps, 2.63 dps, 0.54 bps. She's a gladiator 😁 Z is getting really good as well. She's the second coming of GG, but her serve isn't in GG's level yet. She has the same passing woes, but is getting better quickly. When Mel sets the middles, Minatee is a beast in offense. Phoebe is great in defense. Grote has a nasty serve, and has hit >0.300 in 4 of 9 games, but <0.200 3 of 9 games. But, if Mel's fingers are still a problem (she injured them 2 weeks ago), we are going to see fewer middle sets and a low number of setter dumps (she already got a triple double this year!), and I think that's going to be a major factor in how the pieces get put together. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 22, 2024 20:23:15 GMT -5
My sense watching the gophers this year is that their middle attack has been pretty effective when they use it, but they are only hitting about 0.200 from the pins overall - with no one really standing out except maybe Hanson. Statistically and by eye test they are better than the badgers in terms of floor defense. It feels like they spend an inordinate amount of their time on offense in transition. Both teams have an HP-Opp HP of about 0.080, but they achieve that in different ways. The gophers wear other teams down. They also serve better than the badgers at this point.
Shaffmaster has really been the dominant player when I've watched, but I did not know about the finger problem. Grote I have always thought is up and down. If she's on, it's a problem for the other team. I don't know what's up with McKenna.
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 22, 2024 22:04:04 GMT -5
Questions for Badgers: 1) Was the TAMU match's "one-Libero" an exception, or do you think the Badgers are going to keep with that? LOLABERO IT IS! |
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Sept 22, 2024 22:38:01 GMT -5
History
Last Meeting: Wisconsin won 3-0 on Oct-29-2023
Last-Ten: Wisconsin is 8-2 against Minnesota since Oct-31-2018
All-Time: Minnesota is 53-38 against Wisconsin since Oct-11, 1975
Looking to get past that 2-8 last 10 matches mark, but it'll be a tall task for the Gophers. Need to see the effort they had against Texas and Auburn and hope our serve game is on. Wisconsin seems to be getting closer to where we thought they'd be, after the 0-3 start and they have more offensive weapons than the Gophers. |
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Post by pull3 on Sept 23, 2024 5:11:22 GMT -5
Seeing how a 98% healthy Orzol played the last few matches, I don't miss Landfair anymore.
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