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Post by HOLIDAY on Oct 23, 2024 17:21:09 GMT -5
This is exactly why you should not be the moderator. You’ve banned me twice now. Oh wait three times because you don’t have the guts to have a discussion about this election. I didn’t think in 1 million years thst the great BIK, who helped build Volley Talk on differences of opinion ,..,would be such a coward about it. Go ahead and ban me again. That’s the only answer you Democrats have for everything. Silence them, lock them up, use censorship, whatever it takes. And that’s why you’re going to lose. Nothing you do here is acceptable or allowed under forum rules, and you could have, and probably should have, been permanently banned long ago. I don't care if you are banned or not, but good grief, don't get all sanctimonious about it This is not about that, and you know it. Because if you had a liberal who said the exact same thing as I do, you wouldn’t even blink an eye. So it’s hardly about behavior. As with all Democrats is always about politics. You cannot live without thinking about every second of every day politically. You will get rid of friends, family, because they don’t agree with you. You people are mentally damaged. It’s crazy how much it affected your lives . I assume that when Donald Trump was voted out, that you people would get back to normal? That never happened. Your entire life is wrapped up into getting your way. Look at you guys. You spend more time on here than you do with your own families.
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Post by oldnewbie on Oct 23, 2024 17:41:47 GMT -5
In retrospect, it's quite clear that the Democrats should have convinced Biden not to run for a second term. In 2023, not 2024. An open primary campaign might well have ended up with Harris as the candidate, or it might have ended up with someone else. But convincing a first-term President not to run for a second term is, historically, almost impossible. And no party is going to encourage a primary campaign against their own sitting President. Also, when you are in your 80s, things can happen quickly. Somebody can seem strong one year and seem 10 years older the next year. Anyway, I don't think the issue is that Harris isn't a good choice. I think the issue is that the campaign has repeated the error of 2016 of running against Trump more than running for Harris. The war in Gaza doesn't help at all, either. I would think Arab-Americans would realize Trump sure AF isn't the answer they are looking for, but I can understand why they might be really pissed at Harris and/or anyone associated with the current administration. I disagree somewhat. I think the intention and for the most part the execution, has been to run entirely on Harris, what she believes in, what her policies will be and not mention anything about being Black, Indian or a woman, and she also didn't want to even mention Trump. The problem with that, as she and her campaign staff have found, is that all he cares about is that he is being talked about and leads the news cycle. During the DNC, he was out of the news cycle, and since then he has ratcheted up the lies and straight up deplorable behavior like a toddler throwing a tantrum until he gets attention. Unfortunately it got so bad that the news actually started paying attention to him again, they began to ask Harris about what he was doing and made it very difficult not to talk about what a disgusting, immoral piece of crap he is. that is where he lives. His base eats it up, because they have all made up a narrative in their collective heads that he is brilliant, will actually do whatever they all think he will do and everything he has done to steal the news cycle is just to troll the woke libs. I don't know how you run against someone like that, who lies like he breathes with virutally no repercussions. I've never seen it. I actually listened to Hannity for half an hour at lunch today. It hurt. He was talking with O'Reilly. Hannity literally said that John Kelly, a 4-star General and Trump's Chief of Staff was lying and making up his opinions and direct quotes from Trump that he is personally expressing today, because he was butthurt and hated Trump and should be completely ignored, and Hannity then could not understand why instead the news media was not widely investigating the anonymous claim that Harris' husband slapped his former girlfriend at a party before Harris knew him. Hannity's audience literally agrees with Hannity on which of those is newsworthy in a presidential election and which is not. How do you run for office and engage people like HOLIDAY and Hannity's audience who actually want to be lied to?
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Post by HOLIDAY on Oct 23, 2024 17:54:57 GMT -5
In retrospect, it's quite clear that the Democrats should have convinced Biden not to run for a second term. In 2023, not 2024. An open primary campaign might well have ended up with Harris as the candidate, or it might have ended up with someone else. But convincing a first-term President not to run for a second term is, historically, almost impossible. And no party is going to encourage a primary campaign against their own sitting President. Also, when you are in your 80s, things can happen quickly. Somebody can seem strong one year and seem 10 years older the next year. Anyway, I don't think the issue is that Harris isn't a good choice. I think the issue is that the campaign has repeated the error of 2016 of running against Trump more than running for Harris. The war in Gaza doesn't help at all, either. I would think Arab-Americans would realize Trump sure AF isn't the answer they are looking for, but I can understand why they might be really pissed at Harris and/or anyone associated with the current administration. I disagree somewhat. I think the intention and for the most part the execution, has been to run entirely on Harris, what she believes in, what her policies will be and not mention anything about being Black, Indian or a woman, and she also didn't want to even mention Trump. The problem with that, as she and her campaign staff have found, is that all he cares about is that he is being talked about and leads the news cycle. During the DNC, he was out of the news cycle, and since then he has ratcheted up the lies and straight up deplorable behavior like a toddler throwing a tantrum until he gets attention. Unfortunately it got so bad that the news actually started paying attention to him again, they began to ask Harris about what he was doing and made it very difficult not to talk about what a disgusting, immoral piece of crap he is. that is where he lives. His base eats it up, because they have all made up a narrative in their collective heads that he is brilliant, will actually do whatever they all think he will do and everything he has done to steal the news cycle is just to troll the woke libs. I don't know how you run against someone like that, who lies like he breathes with virutally no repercussions. I've never seen it. I actually listened to Hannity for half an hour at lunch today. It hurt. He was talking with O'Reilly. Hannity literally said that John Kelly, a 4-star General and Trump's Chief of Staff was lying and making up his opinions and direct quotes from Trump that he is personally expressing today, because he was butthurt and hated Trump and should be completely ignored, and Hannity then could not understand why instead the news media was not widely investigating the anonymous claim that Harris' husband slapped his former girlfriend at a party before Harris knew him. Hannity's audience literally agrees with Hannity on which of those is newsworthy in a presidential election and which is not. How do you run for office and engage people like HOLIDAY and Hannity's audience who actually want to be lied to? You are seriously troubled. I call conservatives, common sense people. For instance, it’s common sense that you do not allow 10 million people into a country in three years because logic should tell you that it will text every. educational and metropolitan service. And of course, that’s exactly what happens. Also logic would tell you that crime will increase because many of these people come from countries where crime is rampant. Logic should’ve told you that Donald Trump would not be in a Moscow hotel, screwing a prostitute but you believed it. Logic should’ve also told you that Donald Trump couldn’t possibly be be a Russian asset but yet you believe that. So let’s not talk about common sense because frankly Democrats don’t understand common sense
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Post by oldnewbie on Oct 23, 2024 18:04:21 GMT -5
Nothing you do here is acceptable or allowed under forum rules, and you could have, and probably should have, been permanently banned long ago. I don't care if you are banned or not, but good grief, don't get all sanctimonious about it This is not about that, and you know it. Because if you had a liberal who said the exact same thing as I do, you wouldn’t even blink an eye. So it’s hardly about behavior. As with all Democrats is always about politics. You cannot live without thinking about every second of every day politically. You will get rid of friends, family, because they don’t agree with you. You people are mentally damaged. It’s crazy how much it affected your lives . I assume that when Donald Trump was voted out, that you people would get back to normal? That never happened. Your entire life is wrapped up into getting your way. Look at you guys. You spend more time on here than you do with your own families. The story you just told is pure fiction, but you believe it, and that is all the matters to you. Your behavior here is objectively worse than anyone else here. You post far most than anybody else and start threads incessantly. You lie, insult, curse, and run away from more topics than anybody can count, because your candidate is objectively a Putin-loving fascist who told Putin state secrets and put out intelligence apparatus at risk. That is just on the surface before you dig any deeper int their relationship. I'm not a Democrat and never have been. I have not been a Republican in about 30 years, largely because of people like you that slowly led the party to be co-opted by I have not lost a single friend, or family member or alienated a single co-worker over politics. I enjoy intelligent differences of opinion. After Trump got his butt kicked by a weak candidate in 2020 because, with all the advantages of the incumbancy, he still butchered the Covid crisis and the Covid economy so badly that he lost. Any normal, sane party would have moved on and nobody would have given him a second thought. Of course the current MAGA Republicans are not sane and rallied around their loser of a President, supported him in losing lawsuit after losing lawsuit to challenge the election, stormed the capitol for him when he asked, refused to leave and finally skulked away without transitioning to the new givernment. He then immediately began plotting his comeback and how to bolster his illegal campaign to steal the election in the next cycle. THAT is why anybody cared about him the last 4 years. Not because anybody wanted to, but because he kept doing the illegal s'hit that he does to keep himself in the news cycle. It is all about him, and there is no bad publicity, he just needs to be in the news. I spend a fraction of the time on here that you do. I am super proud of my graduate kids and am more happy than I can say that they actually want to spend time with me, which I do as often as we are able. I don't know why you have invested so heavily in the lie you just told, just as I have no idea why you believe Hannity, Carlson, Ingraham and Trump after they have all been shown to be proven liars in court. That is more of a response than you warrant. You deserve to be banned, but I don't care and I would never ask because you don't bother me. You are insignificant and I can ignore you. I occasionally try to gain some insight into how you became radicalized and why you can't think for yourself, as are so many in the Trump personality cult.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Oct 23, 2024 18:04:42 GMT -5
I disagree somewhat. I think the intention and for the most part the execution, has been to run entirely on Harris, what she believes in, what her policies will be and not mention anything about being Black, Indian or a woman, and she also didn't want to even mention Trump. The problem with that, as she and her campaign staff have found, is that all he cares about is that he is being talked about and leads the news cycle. During the DNC, he was out of the news cycle, and since then he has ratcheted up the lies and straight up deplorable behavior like a toddler throwing a tantrum until he gets attention. Unfortunately it got so bad that the news actually started paying attention to him again, they began to ask Harris about what he was doing and made it very difficult not to talk about what a disgusting, immoral piece of crap he is. that is where he lives. His base eats it up, because they have all made up a narrative in their collective heads that he is brilliant, will actually do whatever they all think he will do and everything he has done to steal the news cycle is just to troll the woke libs. I don't know how you run against someone like that, who lies like he breathes with virutally no repercussions. I've never seen it. I actually listened to Hannity for half an hour at lunch today. It hurt. He was talking with O'Reilly. Hannity literally said that John Kelly, a 4-star General and Trump's Chief of Staff was lying and making up his opinions and direct quotes from Trump that he is personally expressing today, because he was butthurt and hated Trump and should be completely ignored, and Hannity then could not understand why instead the news media was not widely investigating the anonymous claim that Harris' husband slapped his former girlfriend at a party before Harris knew him. Hannity's audience literally agrees with Hannity on which of those is newsworthy in a presidential election and which is not. How do you run for office and engage people like HOLIDAY and Hannity's audience who actually want to be lied to? You are seriously troubled. I call conservatives, common sense people. For instance, it’s common sense that you do not allow 10 million people into a country in three years because logic should tell you that it will text every. educational and metropolitan service. And of course, that’s exactly what happens. Also logic would tell you that crime will increase because many of these people come from countries where crime is rampant. Logic should’ve told you that Donald Trump would not be in a Moscow hotel, screwing a prostitute but you believed it. Logic should’ve also told you that Donald Trump couldn’t possibly be be a Russian asset but yet you believe that. So let’s not talk about common sense because frankly Democrats don’t understand common sense "How do you run for office and engage people like HOLIDAY and Hannity's audience who actually want to be lied to?"You can't. See above. It's a cult. 👆👆
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Post by oldnewbie on Oct 23, 2024 19:09:48 GMT -5
I disagree somewhat. I think the intention and for the most part the execution, has been to run entirely on Harris, what she believes in, what her policies will be and not mention anything about being Black, Indian or a woman, and she also didn't want to even mention Trump. The problem with that, as she and her campaign staff have found, is that all he cares about is that he is being talked about and leads the news cycle. During the DNC, he was out of the news cycle, and since then he has ratcheted up the lies and straight up deplorable behavior like a toddler throwing a tantrum until he gets attention. Unfortunately it got so bad that the news actually started paying attention to him again, they began to ask Harris about what he was doing and made it very difficult not to talk about what a disgusting, immoral piece of crap he is. that is where he lives. His base eats it up, because they have all made up a narrative in their collective heads that he is brilliant, will actually do whatever they all think he will do and everything he has done to steal the news cycle is just to troll the woke libs. I don't know how you run against someone like that, who lies like he breathes with virutally no repercussions. I've never seen it. I actually listened to Hannity for half an hour at lunch today. It hurt. He was talking with O'Reilly. Hannity literally said that John Kelly, a 4-star General and Trump's Chief of Staff was lying and making up his opinions and direct quotes from Trump that he is personally expressing today, because he was butthurt and hated Trump and should be completely ignored, and Hannity then could not understand why instead the news media was not widely investigating the anonymous claim that Harris' husband slapped his former girlfriend at a party before Harris knew him. Hannity's audience literally agrees with Hannity on which of those is newsworthy in a presidential election and which is not. How do you run for office and engage people like HOLIDAY and Hannity's audience who actually want to be lied to? You are seriously troubled. I call conservatives, common sense people. For instance, it’s common sense that you do not allow 10 million people into a country in three years because logic should tell you that it will text every. educational and metropolitan service. And of course, that’s exactly what happens. Also logic would tell you that crime will increase because many of these people come from countries where crime is rampant. Logic should’ve told you that Donald Trump would not be in a Moscow hotel, screwing a prostitute but you believed it. Logic should’ve also told you that Donald Trump couldn’t possibly be be a Russian asset but yet you believe that. So let’s not talk about common sense because frankly Democrats don’t understand common sense You hate conservatives. Trump is not a conservative. He spent money like a drunken sailor and ran up the national debt. Why are you talking about hookers in Moscow hotels? I never said anything about that. You are just making stuff up again to fit your narrative. Trump told Putin secret information at the White House during a visit to impress Putin. He could not keep his mouth shut. You are making up the claim that Trump is a "Russian asset". I certainly never said it and don't believe it. Do I believe Russia tried to interfere in our elections going back at least to 2016? Of course. Do I think that Trump has received loans and monetary assistance either directly or funneled through Russia? Of course. Does Trump obviously have some strange deference to Putin? Obviously. Again, not a Democrat and never have been. So, setting aside everything you made up to prove lack of common sense, what else you got?
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Post by HOLIDAY on Oct 23, 2024 20:24:05 GMT -5
You are seriously troubled. I call conservatives, common sense people. For instance, it’s common sense that you do not allow 10 million people into a country in three years because logic should tell you that it will text every. educational and metropolitan service. And of course, that’s exactly what happens. Also logic would tell you that crime will increase because many of these people come from countries where crime is rampant. Logic should’ve told you that Donald Trump would not be in a Moscow hotel, screwing a prostitute but you believed it. Logic should’ve also told you that Donald Trump couldn’t possibly be be a Russian asset but yet you believe that. So let’s not talk about common sense because frankly Democrats don’t understand common sense You hate conservatives. Trump is not a conservative. He spent money like a drunken sailor and ran up the national debt. Why are you talking about hookers in Moscow hotels? I never said anything about that. You are just making stuff up again to fit your narrative. Trump told Putin secret information at the White House during a visit to impress Putin. He could not keep his mouth shut. You are making up the claim that Trump is a "Russian asset". I certainly never said it and don't believe it. Do I believe Russia tried to interfere in our elections going back at least to 2016? Of course. Do I think that Trump has received loans and monetary assistance either directly or funneled through Russia? Of course. Does Trump obviously have some strange deference to Putin? Obviously. Again, not a Democrat and never have been. So, setting aside everything you made up to prove lack of common sense, what else you got? I know you have difficulty in simple understanding, but I was talking about the Democrat party in general. If you can find some proof that you were opposed to these opinions and didn’t participate in maligning him then I will apologize.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Oct 23, 2024 20:25:30 GMT -5
You are seriously troubled. I call conservatives, common sense people. For instance, it’s common sense that you do not allow 10 million people into a country in three years because logic should tell you that it will text every. educational and metropolitan service. And of course, that’s exactly what happens. Also logic would tell you that crime will increase because many of these people come from countries where crime is rampant. Logic should’ve told you that Donald Trump would not be in a Moscow hotel, screwing a prostitute but you believed it. Logic should’ve also told you that Donald Trump couldn’t possibly be be a Russian asset but yet you believe that. So let’s not talk about common sense because frankly Democrats don’t understand common sense "How do you run for office and engage people like HOLIDAY and Hannity's audience who actually want to be lied to?"You can't. See above. It's a cult. 👆👆 Let me see, the New York Times, the Washington post, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, and ABC, I’ll lie to you about Trump being a Russian asset and How’s the work coming up to believe that he was in Russia sleeping with prostitutes because isn’t that exactly what the investigation was about? It sure was.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Oct 23, 2024 21:01:55 GMT -5
"How do you run for office and engage people like HOLIDAY and Hannity's audience who actually want to be lied to?"You can't. See above. It's a cult. 👆👆 Let me see, the New York Times, the Washington post, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, and ABC, I’ll lie to you about Trump being a Russian asset and How’s the work coming up to believe that he was in Russia sleeping with prostitutes because isn’t that exactly what the investigation was about? It sure was. Could you do that one again in English? Thanks so much!
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Post by HOLIDAY on Oct 23, 2024 21:02:55 GMT -5
Let me see, the New York Times, the Washington post, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, and ABC, I’ll lie to you about Trump being a Russian asset and How’s the work coming up to believe that he was in Russia sleeping with prostitutes because isn’t that exactly what the investigation was about? It sure was. Could you do that one again in English? Thanks so much! Read between thr lines, California, I’m at a meeting
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 23, 2024 21:07:24 GMT -5
I disagree somewhat. I think the intention and for the most part the execution, has been to run entirely on Harris, what she believes in, what her policies will be and not mention anything about being Black, Indian or a woman, and she also didn't want to even mention Trump. The problem with that, as she and her campaign staff have found, is that all he cares about is that he is being talked about and leads the news cycle. During the DNC, he was out of the news cycle, and since then he has ratcheted up the lies and straight up deplorable behavior like a toddler throwing a tantrum until he gets attention. Unfortunately it got so bad that the news actually started paying attention to him again, they began to ask Harris about what he was doing and made it very difficult not to talk about what a disgusting, immoral piece of crap he is. that is where he lives. His base eats it up, because they have all made up a narrative in their collective heads that he is brilliant, will actually do whatever they all think he will do and everything he has done to steal the news cycle is just to troll the woke libs. I don't know how you run against someone like that, who lies like he breathes with virutally no repercussions. I've never seen it. I actually listened to Hannity for half an hour at lunch today. It hurt. He was talking with O'Reilly. Hannity literally said that John Kelly, a 4-star General and Trump's Chief of Staff was lying and making up his opinions and direct quotes from Trump that he is personally expressing today, because he was butthurt and hated Trump and should be completely ignored, and Hannity then could not understand why instead the news media was not widely investigating the anonymous claim that Harris' husband slapped his former girlfriend at a party before Harris knew him. Hannity's audience literally agrees with Hannity on which of those is newsworthy in a presidential election and which is not. How do you run for office and engage people like HOLIDAY and Hannity's audience who actually want to be lied to? You are seriously troubled. I call conservatives, common sense people. For instance, it’s common sense that you do not allow 10 million people into a country in three years because logic should tell you that it will text every. educational and metropolitan service. And of course, that’s exactly what happens. Also logic would tell you that crime will increase because many of these people come from countries where crime is rampant. Logic should’ve told you that Donald Trump would not be in a Moscow hotel, screwing a prostitute but you believed it. Logic should’ve also told you that Donald Trump couldn’t possibly be be a Russian asset but yet you believe that. So let’s not talk about common sense because frankly Democrats don’t understand common sense I could totally believe that Trump would be in a Moscow hotel screwing a prostitute. The question is, why would you not believe that is possible?
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 23, 2024 21:10:27 GMT -5
Could you do that one again in English? Thanks so much! Read between thr lines, California, I’m at a meeting Wednesday night at Alcoholics Anonymous? Or is Wednesday reserved for your Liars Syndrome therapy?
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Post by Fight On! on Oct 23, 2024 21:15:41 GMT -5
Could you do that one again in English? Thanks so much! Read between thr lines, California, I’m at a meeting AA or NA?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Oct 23, 2024 21:16:49 GMT -5
Could you do that one again in English? Thanks so much! Read between thr lines, California, I’m at a meeting Tell your right hand to take five, and then write a coherent sentence. Thanks!
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Post by HOLIDAY on Oct 23, 2024 21:19:34 GMT -5
Read between thr lines, California, I’m at a meeting Tell your right hand to take five, and then write a coherent sentence. Thanks! Anytime friend
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