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Post by bucky415 on Nov 30, 2024 1:24:39 GMT -5
And Pablo top rated team Colorado State, which played SJSU twice in the regular season, won the tournament and got the NCAA Tournament bid.
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Post by fishnpoi on Nov 30, 2024 1:24:43 GMT -5
I like overly simplistic. Man - Strong Woman - Not as Man - Jump High Woman - Not as H L Mencken - For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. Okay, and Dr. Suess loved green eggs and ham. Just because someone is an author doesn't make his philosophies correct. I had no clue who this guy is that you quoted, he was controversial at best. Of course he will appeal to the masses, but probably just about half of them. Case in point, you should give "Mein Kampf" a good read. Very educational. Its published, so the author must be correct in his conclusions. Oh yeah, I almost forgot /s |
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Post by Fight On! on Nov 30, 2024 1:37:10 GMT -5
And Pablo top rated team Colorado State, which played SJSU twice in the regular season, won the tournament and got the NCAA Tournament bid. Huh? They play on Saturday (11/30) |
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Post by fishnpoi on Nov 30, 2024 1:40:28 GMT -5
Couldn't one say "the San Jose player" or "Brooke", and everyone would know to whom you are referring? Insufficiently dehumanizing.  ... for both comments. You guys are just adorable. |
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Post by fishnpoi on Nov 30, 2024 1:41:48 GMT -5
So "the Trans" is name calling. So the next time I speak about say, a judge, I can't say "the Judge"? Is your argument, a general statement of "correctly labeling" or is it just for the trans community. Or can I say "the trans" community. Please elaborate, because I'd like to know what the correct terminology is for "the trans" community. I don't want offend anyone. I'm pretty sure if you called a black person "the black" they'd be pretty offended. Same principle here. ... don't worry, you're adorable too. Don't want you to feel left out since you found the urge to participate. |
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Post by fishnpoi on Nov 30, 2024 1:43:03 GMT -5
Couldn't one say "the San Jose player" or "Brooke", and everyone would know to whom you are referring? or the trans woman or she. ... so many adorable people here. Its hard to keep track |
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Post by fishnpoi on Nov 30, 2024 1:46:41 GMT -5
or the trans woman or she. Not a chance. ... well, nuff said |
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Post by interstate680 on Nov 30, 2024 1:47:39 GMT -5
Back on topic: The highlight video from Colorado State's 3-1 win vs. San Diego State is below.
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Post by fishnpoi on Nov 30, 2024 1:48:16 GMT -5
“Trans” is an adjective, not a noun, so it can’t be said in isolation. Saying “the trans community” is perfectly fine since the adjective (trans) is describing the noun (community). “The judge” is fine since judge is both a noun and an occupation. Let me know if you need any other linguistic lessons. showoff  My apologies, I didn't see the /s after your statement. Oh, okay.. you're serious then...in that case you can join your adorable friends |
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Post by fishnpoi on Nov 30, 2024 1:51:58 GMT -5
Dude, you need to chill. She played on club teams in high school for ages, played on several different college teams, and now suddenly this is an issue. This isn't about the "PC police" as you say. It's darker than that. I don't like to start any of these flame wars...ever. But no one called out miss "Holier than Thou". It was crickets. So I had to say something. Look at my history over 12 years on this board. I'm a chronic lurker. But the condescending attitude that is so prevalent here and that remains unchecked because that opinion fall on the right side of the issue...or more specifically, the left? Put it this way, I'll go back to my living under a rock lurker status, when they stop responding to me. NO SARCASM HERE: It was not my intent to hijack this thread. I will shut my pie hole. As long as the initiators will do the same. Apologies to everyone that was an unintentional bystander. For real. |
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Post by bucky415 on Nov 30, 2024 1:58:44 GMT -5
And Pablo top rated team Colorado State, which played SJSU twice in the regular season, won the tournament and got the NCAA Tournament bid. Huh? They play on Saturday (11/30) Sorry, my bad! I thought that final had already happened, with the SJSU loss to Fresno State. |
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Post by justahick on Nov 30, 2024 3:39:40 GMT -5
Been hiding in the locker room watching her change, have you? Got a camera rigged up in her shower? I'm not sure how else you would know what a volleyball player's genitals look like. Creep. Nope, not my thing. Its funny, you know, there's nothing you could say that would insult me. But you think that there is. Its comical. I got involved in the conversation because, someone took the liberty of calling another poster a disparaging name. Amoral Bigot, I believe the term was. Go back to when I started, not once did I call anyone a slur or a disparaging name. At the very most I called someone Holier than Thou, but if the shoe fits.... Or if this person was offended, than maybe that might be closer to the truth than I thought. Also, I said genitals, I could have used some other word, but the noun/adjective/linguistics crowd would be in an uproar. Okay, teachable moment for me. Answer me this. Does he or doesn't she have the same genitals as it were at birth? If no, my apologies to her. If yes, no apologies to him. In either scenario, "the person" shouldn't be playing on a female gender specific sport. You can quote Olympic committee this, or LBG.. that, its still a biological male playing in a league meant for biological females. And let me respond to your statement that I'm sure you are chomping at the bit to say. Yes, it is my business to know and everyone else to know, if in fact, he is still intact or she isn't. Its all our business because that is part of what all this commentary is about. But heaven forbid someone mentions genitals. Whoever does must be a lurker or a creep. Well add I'll add that to Amoral Bigot because just like any other slurs or insults you throw my way, it doesn't phase me. I'm not a victim of anything. It's ironic that the type of people (to be clear, I'm not talking about you, just in case your getting your book of slurs ready) that are so sensitive about how they are even addressed properly and their respective posses are the very ones to shoot from the hip with the worst thing to call someone in response to having their sensitivities offended. I'm sure there are many on this board that agree that there is no place for a MAN on a WOMANS team. But when you get into the details of what the context really is all about, then the PC police comes out guns a blazing. So hide your collective heads in the sand. By not discussing this in all its context and not saying what needs to be said, accomplishes nothing. And that begins by calling someone an Amoral Bigot. It is rather simple - nobody has actually announced that she is even trans. Let alone what is or isn't in her pants. |
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Post by fishnpoi on Nov 30, 2024 3:55:37 GMT -5
Nope, not my thing. Its funny, you know, there's nothing you could say that would insult me. But you think that there is. Its comical. I got involved in the conversation because, someone took the liberty of calling another poster a disparaging name. Amoral Bigot, I believe the term was. Go back to when I started, not once did I call anyone a slur or a disparaging name. At the very most I called someone Holier than Thou, but if the shoe fits.... Or if this person was offended, than maybe that might be closer to the truth than I thought. Also, I said genitals, I could have used some other word, but the noun/adjective/linguistics crowd would be in an uproar. Okay, teachable moment for me. Answer me this. Does he or doesn't she have the same genitals as it were at birth? If no, my apologies to her. If yes, no apologies to him. In either scenario, "the person" shouldn't be playing on a female gender specific sport. You can quote Olympic committee this, or LBG.. that, its still a biological male playing in a league meant for biological females. And let me respond to your statement that I'm sure you are chomping at the bit to say. Yes, it is my business to know and everyone else to know, if in fact, he is still intact or she isn't. Its all our business because that is part of what all this commentary is about. But heaven forbid someone mentions genitals. Whoever does must be a lurker or a creep. Well add I'll add that to Amoral Bigot because just like any other slurs or insults you throw my way, it doesn't phase me. I'm not a victim of anything. It's ironic that the type of people (to be clear, I'm not talking about you, just in case your getting your book of slurs ready) that are so sensitive about how they are even addressed properly and their respective posses are the very ones to shoot from the hip with the worst thing to call someone in response to having their sensitivities offended. I'm sure there are many on this board that agree that there is no place for a MAN on a WOMANS team. But when you get into the details of what the context really is all about, then the PC police comes out guns a blazing. So hide your collective heads in the sand. By not discussing this in all its context and not saying what needs to be said, accomplishes nothing. And that begins by calling someone an Amoral Bigot. It is rather simple - nobody has actually announced that she is even trans. Let alone what is or isn't in her pants. Well, like I said, I do like simple. Very cool. Good to know. Although I appreciate the info, I still maintain my resolve that this should not be allowed. If this decorum was presented from the start, we would not have gone through any of this. |
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Nov 30, 2024 9:16:37 GMT -5
Love putting my degree to use. Makes the debt seem almost worth it. I'm still waiting for my human biology lesson. I'd like to help you feel that your debt is even more valuable. My degree’s not in biology, but I can recommend to you Anne Fausto-Sterling’s “Sexing the Body: Gender Politics and the Construction of Sexuality”, originally published in 2000 but republished in 2020. The first few chapters are available to read on Google: books.google.com/books?id=rrC0DwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&hl=en&source=newbks_fbI’d also recommend you do some research on conditions like Swyer Syndrome, de la Chapelle Syndrome, and other sex chromosome anomalies so that you can get a better sense of how complex human biology is. |
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Post by fishnpoi on Nov 30, 2024 9:59:45 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for my human biology lesson. I'd like to help you feel that your debt is even more valuable. My degree’s not in biology, but I can recommend to you Anne Fausto-Sterling’s “Sexing the Body: Gender Politics and the Construction of Sexuality”, originally published in 2000 but republished in 2020. The first few chapters are available to read on Google: books.google.com/books?id=rrC0DwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&hl=en&source=newbks_fbI’d also recommend you do some research on conditions like Swyer Syndrome, de la Chapelle Syndrome, and other sex chromosome anomalies so that you can get a better sense of how complex human biology is. Look, I appreciate the effort you took out of your day to research this on my behalf. I even clicked on the link, but when the sub-heading of the literature you recommended is this: Sexing the Body: Gender Politics and the Construction of Sexuality, its hard not to think that this isn't biased in some way. I don't think I'm being closed minded, nor are others on this board that hold similar opinions as mine, but I've made my stance quite clear. The grey areas in which a lot of this subject is being seen, by each side, is seen as black and white by each on this issue. It's not even a spin, its a belief. Hell, I'm not even the quintessential type category of person that you may have in your mind about me. The word fairness is being seen differently by you and me, is all, and its being defined by our belief system. I think that we keep this off this thread and move it somewhere more approrpiate for this discussion. |
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