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Post by vballfan17 on Nov 26, 2024 17:32:22 GMT -5
Adding in all of the conference tournament matches is a very tedious process. Updated RPI futures might not get posted until tomorrow. Do all the other matches get added manually? Or do you have that part automated? In recent years, yes, manually. That being said, you can imagine how many hours upon hours it takes to manually add in every match for all 346 teams. However, bluepenquin gave me a tip on how to use schedules posted on RichKern's site for the future. This still wouldn't account for conference tournaments, and those would still have to be added manually. |
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Post by Blaze on Nov 26, 2024 17:37:47 GMT -5
Do all the other matches get added manually? Or do you have that part automated? In recent years, yes, manually. That being said, you can imagine how many hours upon hours it takes to manually add in every match for all 346 teams. However, bluepenquin gave me a tip on how to use schedules posted on RichKern's site for the future. This still wouldn't account for conference tournaments, and those would still have to be added manually. I don't know why, but that makes me feel relieved. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 26, 2024 18:21:13 GMT -5
Manually putting in everyone's schedule was/is a major project. Figured out last year that I could do in by copying and pasting from Rich Kern in about 3 hours or so. That was/is a game changer. Otherwise I wouldn't be shadowing RPI Futures.
Manually putting in all the conference tournaments is also a pain in the rear. The thread with conference championships and auto qualifiers has been a tremendous help this year. The way RPI Futures is programmed - it doesn't work with conditional matches - so the matches can only be entered once the two teams are known. So there is some extra work this time of year. For me - I will look ahead with the Big East and maybe the Big West and input early by a couple weeks based on my projection.
There is also a lot of work in reprogramming all the duplicate opponent matches - but at this point I just don't bother with teams that aren't close to being in the top 75. I am taking a lot of shortcuts. This also is a big pain in the rear with conference tournaments.
In order to run simulations - there is extra programming work with making each match dependent. So, in each simulation the winner of each match will have a loser - and play this out for each simulation. The base RPI program doesn't do simulations, so this extra step isn't needed.
Other than that - it isn't so bad logging in the winner of each match. It allows me to at least see the result of each match played - and I enjoy looking to see how much of an upset this might be and then to automatically see the result on every team's RPI ranking after each match input. That work has more instant reward.
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Post by tomclen on Nov 26, 2024 18:58:12 GMT -5
Pablo is predicting Washington to win the last two matches against USC and Purdue?? That seems.... unlikely Washington has been so inconsistent this year nothing will surprise me in these last two games. Huskies should have a huge home-court advantage - these pre-post Thanksgiving games have seen big crowds at HecEd. I wouldn't bet on two wins for UW, but I won't be surprised if they win one or both. Conversely, I'm not as comfortable as some posters that Washington makes the tournament (especially if they don't win either match). Every year there seems to always be one team that everyone feels the committee shafted. I could see UW being that team if they don't win one more match. The committee could make the case that Washington ended the season on a downward trajectory. (Doesn't help that they lost twice to UCLA and were swept by Michigan and tOSU.) Win one and concerns are limited. Win both and they're a tournament lock. |
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Post by maigrey on Nov 26, 2024 19:23:39 GMT -5
Do all the other matches get added manually? Or do you have that part automated? In recent years, yes, manually. That being said, you can imagine how many hours upon hours it takes to manually add in every match for all 346 teams. However, bluepenquin gave me a tip on how to use schedules posted on RichKern's site for the future. This still wouldn't account for conference tournaments, and those would still have to be added manually. Rich Kern adds the conference tournament matches in by the morning of the match, if not sooner. Big East, Big West, Big Sky, and MWC are already in. Also, I have found a way to get excel to pull in today's matches straight from stats.ncaa.org. I could probably tweak it to pull a full week or something. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Nov 26, 2024 20:45:33 GMT -5
Pablo is predicting Washington to win the last two matches against USC and Purdue?? That seems.... unlikely Washington has been so inconsistent this year nothing will surprise me in these last two games. Huskies should have a huge home-court advantage - these pre-post Thanksgiving games have seen big crowds at HecEd. I wouldn't bet on two wins for UW, but I won't be surprised if they win one or both. Conversely, I'm not as comfortable as some posters that Washington makes the tournament (especially if they don't win either match). Every year there seems to always be one team that everyone feels the committee shafted. I could see UW being that team if they don't win one more match. The committee could make the case that Washington ended the season on a downward trajectory. (Doesn't help that they lost twice to UCLA and were swept by Michigan and tOSU.) Win one and concerns are limited. Win both and they're a tournament lock. I feel you on Washington's inconsistencies (it doesn't help to have to deal with so many injuries) but they are currently #36 in RPI. Their last two opponents are currently Top 25 teams and will (most likely) be Top 25 RPI teams by Selection Sunday. Even losing twice, I don't see how they fall beneath trojansc's projected RPI cutoff line. Now if they were facing say Rutgers or Iowa, maybe I'd be concerned if they dropped both but I just don't see it if you lose to Purdue and USC that they haven't done enough to be in. |
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Post by Millenium on Nov 30, 2024 12:17:43 GMT -5
Was there a final RPI Futures thread posted this week?
Did I miss it?
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Post by boilermaker5 on Nov 30, 2024 12:19:15 GMT -5
Was there a final RPI Futures thread posted this week? Did I miss it? At this point just go to figstats. I think I remember reading something about forecasting conference tournaments being too cumbersome as well. ncaastats.figstats.net/volleyball-rpi.cgi |
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Post by Millenium on Nov 30, 2024 12:28:41 GMT -5
Was there a final RPI Futures thread posted this week? Did I miss it? At this point just go to figstats. I think I remember reading something about forecasting conference tournaments being too cumbersome as well. ncaastats.figstats.net/volleyball-rpi.cgi |
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