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Post by uofaGRAD on Nov 21, 2024 19:53:33 GMT -5
Statistically, it's one of those things where I think--of all the D1 volleyball teams in the country where it's impossible that no middle is in the Top 3/4 passers on their team in passing and defense. (and can see time in the back row) Is middle so specialized that they can't also work on their back row? Is playing middle that exhausting that they always need the break? There's even been some teams in some rotations where if the middle could pass like a 1.5 covering a small section of the court--it would help a team not always get stuck and unable to side out in a certain rotation. it definitely will never ever been a common thing ever again, but i just don’t get why you wouldn’t make it work for a middle that’s your focal point on offense if they have the ability to play back row at all. i mean your outsides and libero should hypothetically be able to pass |
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Post by abcd098 on Nov 21, 2024 20:01:54 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, Ohio State had some 6 rotation middles back in the Stacey Gordon days.
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Post by eastbeachwestcoast on Nov 21, 2024 20:04:13 GMT -5
I dream of Andi Jackson being in for 6 rotations. Either as a middle or oppo
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Post by Fight On! on Nov 21, 2024 20:15:29 GMT -5
Casey Hinger from CSUN, c/o 2015, I think.
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Post by jengal on Nov 22, 2024 1:03:57 GMT -5
Ronika Stone played some 6-rotation middle reps for Oregon in 2019. Not a good year for the Ducks.
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Post by cbrown1709 on Nov 22, 2024 2:02:03 GMT -5
Were there any 6ro middles this season? Who have been some notable ones since the liberos was implemented? Just thinking about it because I’m stunned Georgia didn’t have Sophie Fischer run 6ro this season. I mean seriously, they’re way underperforming and still nothing lol. I was a little surprised Amber was never allowed to at Hawaii either. especially when Hawaii’s liberos weren’t at the level they probably should’ve been during her career (sorry!) and all of their pins being able to pass in 2023. I mean hell, her floor defense was excellent, granted she did seem a little slowed by an injury in 2023 so maybe a back row attack would’ve been ineffective (granted, it’s not like Riley, Caylen, or Hakas were effective last season. hell the other middle hit under .300 too) 100% agreed on Fischer. She was SUCH a dominant OH in high school and she played at the highest division. I felt she was only moved to middle in club / at Kentucky bc of her height. If Georgia is struggling THIS badly, at least go back to letting her bomb away on D balls out of the back row -- what could it possibly hurt? She's shown she's more than capable of doing it. PS -- i love watching HS vball for this reason bc in the last match I watched (in Michigan's smallest division - enrollment less than 200), the team had 7 total players, didn't use a libero or have the 7th girl play at all. They just won their state semifinal with all pins and middles playing six ros, both OH's and both middles hitting pipes and D balls lol. It's so fun to watch to me. At Kentucky, Sophie trained on the left side and some rightside. I'm pretty sure she ever was never a middle at UK. |
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Post by abrigham22 on Nov 22, 2024 10:22:18 GMT -5
Were there any 6ro middles this season? Who have been some notable ones since the liberos was implemented? Just thinking about it because I’m stunned Georgia didn’t have Sophie Fischer run 6ro this season. I mean seriously, they’re way underperforming and still nothing lol. I was a little surprised Amber was never allowed to at Hawaii either. especially when Hawaii’s liberos weren’t at the level they probably should’ve been during her career (sorry!) and all of their pins being able to pass in 2023. I mean hell, her floor defense was excellent, granted she did seem a little slowed by an injury in 2023 so maybe a back row attack would’ve been ineffective (granted, it’s not like Riley, Caylen, or Hakas were effective last season. hell the other middle hit under .300 too) CC Crawford at Wisconsin can be a 6R MB. Hasn’t been standard though. |
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Post by coachdavid on Nov 22, 2024 10:36:44 GMT -5
Statistically, it's one of those things where I think--of all the D1 volleyball teams in the country where it's impossible that no middle is in the Top 3/4 passers on their team in passing and defense. (and can see time in the back row) Is middle so specialized that they can't also work on their back row? Is playing middle that exhausting that they always need the break? There's even been some teams in some rotations where if the middle could pass like a 1.5 covering a small section of the court--it would help a team not always get stuck and unable to side out in a certain rotation. If she's good enough to play all around you put her as a pin so she can get set more often and not just on perfect passes/free balls. Middles are usually middles because they struggle with passing.* *relatively, I'm sure most D1 middles pass at a much higher level than I do, but not enough to hold up against D1 servers. |
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Post by volleyball303 on Nov 22, 2024 11:29:56 GMT -5
Olivia Nicholson at Colorado State sorta did for a bit her senior year. She was a middle in high school, but played primarily as a receiving opposite in college. In fact, she either played or started in every position for CSU except at setter. When Paulina Hougaard-Jensen was injured, Nicholson (at opposite) filled in with another middle, where she would hit and block from the middle on serve, and hit/block from the right on serve receive. Angela Knopf was the best CSU 6 rotation middle. I remember them knocking off #1 UCLA and Florida to start the season her junior or senior year. Very special player. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 22, 2024 11:56:40 GMT -5
Ronika Stone played some 6-rotation middle reps for Oregon in 2019. Not a good year for the Ducks. She was only 4.5, IIRC. They would libero the OH2 when she was serving, and she’d stay in until that outside went back to front row. |
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Post by azvb on Nov 22, 2024 11:58:10 GMT -5
10 or so years ago, my daughter coached a boys team in high school with a middle who could crush a BIC out of the back row. They hid him in SR, and he was decent on defense. They won the State Championship.
With OH’s being much better at hitting from the back row now, no real reason to keep a middle in the back.
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Post by Longhorn20 on Nov 22, 2024 13:21:05 GMT -5
Wasn’t there a 6ro middle on the KSU team that upset Nebraska in the tourney in 2011?
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Post by jag on Nov 22, 2024 14:04:57 GMT -5
Megan Korver, Nebraska 1997 & 1998.
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Post by Fight On! on Nov 22, 2024 23:10:59 GMT -5
Since so many people aren’t bothering to actually respond to OP, I will throw in Eve from DR.
I also played 6-ro MB for much of my illustrious career in BB in NAGVA. Lol
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Post by jiml on Nov 22, 2024 23:30:40 GMT -5
The last 6ro middle I recall at Wisconsin was transfer Meggan Kohnen in 2000. She really improved the serve receive and digging when in the back row.
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