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Post by BeachbytheBay on Feb 11, 2025 14:53:34 GMT -5
not any news that's any different than what is already out there. good pub for the Nikolov family, click bait! lol at them using 'transfer' - more misinformation. this type of stuff is entertaining. you don't 'transfer' from a college to a pro team. lol,
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Post by wilbur on Feb 11, 2025 15:05:01 GMT -5
Surprise to... no one! He is way ahead of where his brother was at the same age. His brother was much more raw. This is the month all the pro contracts are being negotiated. Alex was probably getting look but his pro deal developed much later and if they were being honest the decision was made after the season during the VNL. Moni has probably ly been at the top of every owner want list since last summer. I hope they are being careful and LB compliance is all over this and no NCAA rules are broken before May as far as speaking to pro teams or agents. Hi dad seems to be a chessmaster so it seems unlikely. His dad does all the what-ifs. He's a smart guy, and gonna play pro teams against each other to jack up the price, of course his dad will be approached. Like really you think LB compliance can really be in SOfia and tapping phones to see what is going on? or that matter if he was on any college team that a compliance office would do any more than make clear the rules. on the other hand, the teams that make the rules are going UTR offering multi-thousands to kids and trying to ply kids from one team to the other with offers of money, but I'm sure LB would be a nice target to make an example of vs. some kid throwing a football for $ 1 mil. 'getting' LB (which I doubt anybody cares about anymore) would be a laughable farce giving what is going on in the US. as Tarkanian used to say...the NCAA got so mad at North Carolina they put Cleveland State on probation for 3 years...!!! 'LB compliance is all over this' lol. what does that mean? The dad knows the rules. Historically, past NCAA volleyball teams have been DQ'd after a whistle blower (someone connected to another team that would benefit) comes forward with verifiable facts that show a player participated in NCAA violations. Moni or someone representing him negotiating a contract before he has completed his season for example. I did acknowledge that his father seems like he knows the rules so it is unlikely but you never know who is lurking in the shadows. I wouldn't put it past several of the coaches in the NCAA to take a shot if they thought they had evidence. If I was in the LB compliance position I would have a meeting to review all the current rules with Moni and his family to make sure it is all crystal clear, not suggesting they tap phones or police the actions of Moni and family. The NCAA has athletes making a ton of money both within the rules and probably outside the rules and everything in between, but past men's NCAA VB teams have been stripped of titles, that is a fact. It always involved foreign players adn pro contracts and it was under different NCAA rules than are in place now.
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Post by wilbur on Feb 11, 2025 15:10:19 GMT -5
not any news that's any different than what is already out there. good pub for the Nikolov family, click bait! lol at them using 'transfer' - more misinformation. this type of stuff is entertaining. you don't 'transfer' from a college to a pro team. lol, I assume the transfer they are referring to is between his past club team (who own his card or something like that) in Bulgaria to the new one. Transfer is a common term they use in the pro VB industry that could be at any time, I didn't hear them say anything about a mid season transfer.
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 11, 2025 15:11:21 GMT -5
How dare anyone question a youtube video! They are always 100% accurate and spilling over with factual truths. I base all my life decisions on various youtube channel content and personalities. 1 year of Moni is all we ever anticipated. He's gifted all around but needs work in some areas, but like the NBA teams don't draft upper classmen they draft for potential. Same thing with the Nikolov bros and others. If you can, see Moni in person this year, regardless of your fandom what he does in real time is worth seeing in person and probably will push the mens game to higher levels of performance. His trajectory is to be a transformational setter. He’s not getting better in his time in the NCAA. It’s actually quite detrimental to his development and evident in his play before and now.
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Post by soljah808 on Feb 11, 2025 15:19:13 GMT -5
How dare anyone question a youtube video! They are always 100% accurate and spilling over with factual truths. I base all my life decisions on various youtube channel content and personalities. 1 year of Moni is all we ever anticipated. He's gifted all around but needs work in some areas, but like the NBA teams don't draft upper classmen they draft for potential. Same thing with the Nikolov bros and others. If you can, see Moni in person this year, regardless of your fandom what he does in real time is worth seeing in person and probably will push the mens game to higher levels of performance. His trajectory is to be a transformational setter. He’s not getting better in his time in the NCAA. It’s actually quite detrimental to his development and evidentnin his play before and now. It's not at all helping his development...dude looks BORED most of the time on that court at LBSU. And rightfully so because he is so damn good and the competition is not to his level!
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Post by wilbur on Feb 11, 2025 15:37:44 GMT -5
He’s not getting better in his time in the NCAA. It’s actually quite detrimental to his development and evidentnin his play before and now. It's not at all helping his development...dude looks BORED most of the time on that court at LBSU. And rightfully so because he is so damn good and the competition is not to his level! it is training wheels for life skills like living in a foreign country, speaking another language, dealing with press and being independent. It is very impressive what he is doing in all those areas for a person his age. There are a lot of miss steps that can be made during the early part of a pro career that are nice to iron out for a year in the US while his brain and body mature and he is getting a good life experience. IMO the VB is not so bad it is setting him back more than he can make up for quickly next season. He is young and his development is at a good point now compared to his peers, one year in the US isn't a big deal and may set him up for better future. Learning a different system and culture of VB can only be beneficial for him to put in his tool box now. Hopefully he plays with top American players later in his career and this will help. His brother Alex has had some struggles in the start of his pro career that I don't think were created by the year he spent in the US, maybe it helped him. I would be curious to hear Alex's take on it. I assume it was seen as a net positive or his brother wouldn't be here. So many uninformed opinions here!
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 11, 2025 15:42:01 GMT -5
It's not at all helping his development...dude looks BORED most of the time on that court at LBSU. And rightfully so because he is so damn good and the competition is not to his level! it is training wheels for life skills like living in a foreign country, speaking another language, dealing with press and being independent. It is very impressive what he is doing in all those areas for a person his age. There are a lot of miss steps that can be made during the early part of a pro career that are nice to iron out for a year in the US while his brain and body mature and he is getting a good life experience. IMO the VB is not so bad it is setting him back more than he can make up for quickly next season. He is young and his development is at a good point now compared to his peers, one year in the US isn't a big deal and may set him up for better future. Learning a different system and culture of VB can only be beneficial for him to put in his tool box now. Hopefully he plays with top American players later in his career and this will help. His brother Alex has had some struggles in the start of his pro career that I don't think were created by the year he spent in the US, maybe it helped him. I would be curious to hear Alex's take on it. I assume it was seen as a net positive or his brother wouldn't be here. So many uninformed opinions here! How is yours an “informed” opinion?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Feb 11, 2025 15:43:12 GMT -5
not any news that's any different than what is already out there. good pub for the Nikolov family, click bait! lol at them using 'transfer' - more misinformation. this type of stuff is entertaining. you don't 'transfer' from a college to a pro team. lol, I assume the transfer they are referring to is between his past club team (who own his card or something like that) in Bulgaria to the new one. Transfer is a common term they use in the pro VB industry that could be at any time, I didn't hear them say anything about a mid season transfer. well, that would make sense but the perception by showing LB & Lokomotiv is that he is 'tansfering' from LB to Loko, lol erroneous in so many ways, not that the one creating probably cared.
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Post by wilbur on Feb 11, 2025 15:46:28 GMT -5
it is training wheels for life skills like living in a foreign country, speaking another language, dealing with press and being independent. It is very impressive what he is doing in all those areas for a person his age. There are a lot of miss steps that can be made during the early part of a pro career that are nice to iron out for a year in the US while his brain and body mature and he is getting a good life experience. IMO the VB is not so bad it is setting him back more than he can make up for quickly next season. He is young and his development is at a good point now compared to his peers, one year in the US isn't a big deal and may set him up for better future. Learning a different system and culture of VB can only be beneficial for him to put in his tool box now. Hopefully he plays with top American players later in his career and this will help. His brother Alex has had some struggles in the start of his pro career that I don't think were created by the year he spent in the US, maybe it helped him. I would be curious to hear Alex's take on it. I assume it was seen as a net positive or his brother wouldn't be here. So many uninformed opinions here! How is yours an “informed” opinion? It probably isn't so happy to include myself in this but saying this year is "quite detrimental to his development" and he is "bored out there" is a take I don't think his family or he shares but that is just my opinion.
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Post by wilbur on Feb 11, 2025 15:51:25 GMT -5
I assume the transfer they are referring to is between his past club team (who own his card or something like that) in Bulgaria to the new one. Transfer is a common term they use in the pro VB industry that could be at any time, I didn't hear them say anything about a mid season transfer. well, that would make sense but the perception by showing LB & Lokomotiv is that he is 'tansfering' from LB to Loko, lol erroneous in so many ways, not that the one creating probably cared. perception to you but not to the youtuber's typical audience. This guy is not trying to be erroneous, he is a no nonsense straight shooter adn worth a follow if you like international VB.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Feb 11, 2025 15:54:15 GMT -5
His dad does all the what-ifs. He's a smart guy, and gonna play pro teams against each other to jack up the price, of course his dad will be approached. Like really you think LB compliance can really be in SOfia and tapping phones to see what is going on? or that matter if he was on any college team that a compliance office would do any more than make clear the rules. on the other hand, the teams that make the rules are going UTR offering multi-thousands to kids and trying to ply kids from one team to the other with offers of money, but I'm sure LB would be a nice target to make an example of vs. some kid throwing a football for $ 1 mil. 'getting' LB (which I doubt anybody cares about anymore) would be a laughable farce giving what is going on in the US. as Tarkanian used to say...the NCAA got so mad at North Carolina they put Cleveland State on probation for 3 years...!!! 'LB compliance is all over this' lol. what does that mean? The dad knows the rules. Historically, past NCAA volleyball teams have been DQ'd after a whistle blower (someone connected to another team that would benefit) comes forward with verifiable facts that show a player participated in NCAA violations. Moni or someone representing him negotiating a contract before he has completed his season for example. I did acknowledge that his father seems like he knows the rules so it is unlikely but you never know who is lurking in the shadows. I wouldn't put it past several of the coaches in the NCAA to take a shot if they thought they had evidence. If I was in the LB compliance position I would have a meeting to review all the current rules with Moni and his family to make sure it is all crystal clear, not suggesting they tap phones or police the actions of Moni and family. The NCAA has athletes making a ton of money both within the rules and probably outside the rules and everything in between, but past men's NCAA VB teams have been stripped of titles, that is a fact. It always involved foreign players adn pro contracts and it was under different NCAA rules than are in place now. I think past violations were in an era so far removed. LB compliance provides all the rules. I really doubt (with 6+ foreign athletes they do more than re-iterate, Beach resources are minimal compared to the pigs of the NCAA. Like North Carolina test taking, lol, and getting slapped on the risk, so help me Roy (mr clean) WIlliams. nothing would ever surprise me. the NCAA has a hstory of going after those that can't fight back, lol that multiple pro teams are interested in him is like, duh. that any of them would publicize a non-deal as some deal - they wouldn't care whatsoever for whatever ulterior motives. and a Russian team no less, lol, they wouldn't give a cr&p about anything related to the NCAA. that his dad would get 'unsolicited what ifs' , like duh, lol. in this day and age, the NCAA is a joke anyway.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Feb 11, 2025 15:56:24 GMT -5
well, that would make sense but the perception by showing LB & Lokomotiv is that he is 'tansfering' from LB to Loko, lol erroneous in so many ways, not that the one creating probably cared. perception to you but not to the youtuber's typical audience. This guy is not trying to be erroneous, he is a no nonsense straight shooter adn worth a follow if you like international VB. I'm sure he's not trying to be erroneous. doesn't mean that he isn't the way he's using 'transfer' I'm sure the more attention Nikolov gets, the more speculation, for whatever motives, will come out.
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Post by bAnthony on Feb 11, 2025 18:40:58 GMT -5
1. The guy behind the Youtube Channel is very credible. If you are interested in men's pro volleyball, he is the most comprehensive there is. This isn't new and it was also reported on a Bulgarian national site.
2. Moni said in the OOS interview that he could not sign with a pro club abroad because he was 17. He also pointed to his brother's experience and living abroad by himself as a reason he came to play in the NCAA. We all knew he was only going to be here for a year.
3. It doesn't look like their are places in Italy for him to land at this point. Nikolov is probably the 2nd-most sought after young setter in this transfer market behind Amir (who looks like he is going to Norwid). Him going to Russia to continue his pro career after a brief stint in the NCAA is a good landing spot.
4. It looks like Russia might be allowed back in CEV competitions, and that makes Lokomotiv pretty desirable.
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Post by westcoastvolleyfreak on Feb 11, 2025 19:28:09 GMT -5
He’s not getting better in his time in the NCAA. It’s actually quite detrimental to his development and evidentnin his play before and now. It's not at all helping his development...dude looks BORED most of the time on that court at LBSU. And rightfully so because he is so damn good and the competition is not to his level! you're underestimating how much development as a young man he's had since moving to the US. Even if volleyball wise, it wasn't smart for his development, being in a different country by yourself, makes you grow so much as a person. I can imagine this experience has helped him a lot off the court, especially if he'll be playing professionally, needs to know how to live on his own, in a different country, while being a star. The point is, coming to the NCAA seems to be more of the off the court stuff for him rather than on the court.
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Post by soljah808 on Feb 11, 2025 22:15:33 GMT -5
It's not at all helping his development...dude looks BORED most of the time on that court at LBSU. And rightfully so because he is so damn good and the competition is not to his level! you're underestimating how much development as a young man he's had since moving to the US. Even if volleyball wise, it wasn't smart for his development, being in a different country by yourself, makes you grow so much as a person. I can imagine this experience has helped him a lot off the court, especially if he'll be playing professionally, needs to know how to live on his own, in a different country, while being a star. The point is, coming to the NCAA seems to be more of the off the court stuff for him rather than on the court. Well tbh, I never mentioned once about off the court stuff. I have strictly pointed out to ON THE COURT STUFF here and not one person has refuted this main point. I have no doubt him living abroad a year helps him. But on the court still stand true...dude looks bored as hell out there. And who can blame him? Dude is a special type of athlete.
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