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Post by Phoenix4547 on Jul 31, 2025 8:42:49 GMT -5
I'm sure they're not thrilled with their nine-figure investment being a financial loss. Unless they were only seeking a tax write-off. ![]() You're kidding, right? WNBA owners have seen their investment do multiples in the last few years. They write off operating losses and cash in when they decide to sell. Does that mean the supposition of the op was incorrect? Then owners go from a chance at one day making a profit to zero chance of ever making a profit. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 31, 2025 8:47:10 GMT -5
You're kidding, right? WNBA owners have seen their investment do multiples in the last few years. They write off operating losses and cash in when they decide to sell. Does that mean the supposition of the op was incorrect? Then owners go from a chance at one day making a profit to zero chance of ever making a profit.I guess? But viewing the league's success from the lens of "does it make a profit" really misses the point. Team valuations have skyrocketed and generated great wealth for ownership. |
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Post by Phoenix4547 on Jul 31, 2025 8:48:08 GMT -5
Does that mean the supposition of the op was incorrect? Then owners go from a chance at one day making a profit to zero chance of ever making a profit.I guess? But viewing the league's success from the lens of "does it make a profit" really misses the point. Team valuations have skyrocketed and generated great wealth for ownership. ok, cool |
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Post by ilikewaffles on Jul 31, 2025 9:29:03 GMT -5
Does that mean the supposition of the op was incorrect? Then owners go from a chance at one day making a profit to zero chance of ever making a profit.I guess? But viewing the league's success from the lens of "does it make a profit" really misses the point. Team valuations have skyrocketed and generated great wealth for ownership. What determines a team's valuation ? The price at which the team could be sold ? |
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 31, 2025 9:38:48 GMT -5
I guess? But viewing the league's success from the lens of "does it make a profit" really misses the point. Team valuations have skyrocketed and generated great wealth for ownership. What determines a team's valuation ? The price at which the team could be sold ? Yes. |
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Post by n00b on Jul 31, 2025 10:44:29 GMT -5
What determines a team's valuation ? The price at which the team could be sold ? Yes. Valuation will also drop if mandatory expenditures (like salaries) drastically increase. I'm not disagreeing that it isn't simply about turning a profit on an annual basis, but your employees refusing to work unless they get paid an amount that causes you to operate in the red would HAVE to hurt the valuation of the teams. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 31, 2025 11:02:49 GMT -5
Valuation will also drop if mandatory expenditures (like salaries) drastically increase. I'm not disagreeing that it isn't simply about turning a profit on an annual basis, but your employees refusing to work unless they get paid an amount that causes you to operate in the red would HAVE to hurt the valuation of the teams. According to everybody here, WNBA teams are already losing money and have always lost money, yet valuation keeps shooting up and wealthy people are fighting for the privilege of paying a $250 million expansion fee so they can own a team. |
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Post by tn65 on Jul 31, 2025 14:27:26 GMT -5
I think this will change under the new CBA, because I expect the supermax to be at least $1M a year. If the league minimum goes up to $200k+, not many players can make that much overseas. You think WNBA salaries will quadruple? That seems optimistic... WNBA's revenue is projected to increase by at least $150M a year. (This does not include ION's tv contract or any increase in ticket and merch sales.) Suppose the players get half of that. ($75M a year.) There will be 18 teams by 2030. If each team has 12 players, that will be 216 players in total. $75M divided by 216 is $347k. That increase will not be evenly distributed across all players. The current ratio of maximum to minimum salary is about 4:1. But that is likely to increase under the new CBA. When the salary level is low, you need to pay enough to the lowest paid players. That will not be a concern under the new CBA. The same happened in NWSL when they signed the current CBA. I think they will raise the supermax to $1M for a symbolic reason. If not for the first year of CBA, at least during some time under the next CBA. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 2, 2025 0:19:14 GMT -5
Hey, if it all goes badly, I'm sure people will still cheer if the team owners go out and play basketball instead of the current players. After all, the players are just lucky to get paid at all, right? It's the owners who are the real heroes.
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Post by n00b on Aug 2, 2025 10:05:56 GMT -5
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Post by tn65 on Aug 2, 2025 15:10:45 GMT -5
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Aug 2, 2025 16:02:51 GMT -5
Not so fast, says the WNBA? Seems to be a disconnect here... |
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Post by Phoenix4547 on Aug 2, 2025 21:28:39 GMT -5
Hey, if it all goes badly, I'm sure people will still cheer if the team owners go out and play basketball instead of the current players. After all, the players are just lucky to get paid at all, right? It's the owners who are the real heroes. Or the players could band together, pool their money, and start their own league. They’re the ones the people come to see, so it should be no problem. |
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Post by jayj79 on Aug 3, 2025 20:11:25 GMT -5
Meanwhile, the league standings are interesting.
Minnesota has built a sizable cushion atop the league (up by 5.5 games)
but spots 2-10 (and especially 2-5) have some close competition, with just 1.5 games separating 2 from 5
(then another 5 game buffer between 10 and 11, with Dallas, Chicago, and Connecticut-soon-to-be-Boston sitting in the basement)
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Post by tn65 on Aug 4, 2025 13:39:55 GMT -5
Dallas is already in a rebuilding mode as they traded away Carrington.
NYL could be back in contention once Stewart is back. They would want to secure #2 seed so that they won't face Minnesota until the finals.
Indiana could finish in top 4, depending on how soon Clark gets back. They are still playing great without her. (The league certainly hopes they will play at least two rounds of play-off.)
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