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Post by sk8terboy on Nov 29, 2005 0:41:29 GMT -5
I was just watching the Junior College National Championships on TV and the announcers said that the two Polish players from the College of Southern Idaho are heading to Southern Cal next year. Is this true? I did a Google search to find out more about these two players and both of them played in the Polish professional league. I thought that foreign players who played in pro leagues couldn't play D-1 in the US? Does anyone know the rule on this and, if foreign pros really aren't legal, how has USC managed to get these two eligible?
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Post by PukaPants on Nov 29, 2005 0:45:53 GMT -5
This has been brought up before in other posts.
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Post by BearClause on Nov 29, 2005 0:52:05 GMT -5
I was just watching the Junior College National Championships on TV and the announcers said that the two Polish players from the College of Southern Idaho are heading to Southern Cal next year. Is this true? I did a Google search to find out more about these two players and both of them played in the Polish professional league. I thought that foreign players who played in pro leagues couldn't play D-1 in the US? Does anyone know the rule on this and, if foreign pros really aren't legal, how has USC managed to get these two eligible? I'll just say that once upon a time it was possible for someone participating in a "pro league" to restore NCAA eligibility by sitting out competitions. Apparently the NCAA has closed down this possibility.
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Post by sk8terboy on Nov 29, 2005 0:54:37 GMT -5
What do you mean by "...closed down this possibility...."?
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Post by BearClause on Nov 29, 2005 1:09:46 GMT -5
What do you mean by "...closed down this possibility...."? Simple. They changed the rules. The penalty for playing without pay in a so-called "professional league" used to be one NCAA competition per "pro league" competition. This was the penalty for Haim Shimonovich, who played basketball at Hawaii starting in 2000. He had to sit out something like 20 games for playing in a "pro league" in Israel. The next year the NCAA got a little generous and gave a one-time exception of 1 competition for every 4 "pro league" competitions with a cap of 8 to sit out. Cal's Amit Tamir had a similar situation, but only only sat out 8 games. After that, they changed the rule such that playing at all in a "pro league" was a permanent disqualification from NCAA competition in that sport. I underlined the revision date where the rule was changed.
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Post by lilred on Nov 29, 2005 1:51:05 GMT -5
This has been brought up before in other posts. Can't be expected to read every single post. Perhaps this poster did not see this. This is a place to ask questions and hopefully get good answers. The above is not one them. (good answers) Thank you BearClause for an explanation.
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Post by Murina on Nov 29, 2005 1:57:01 GMT -5
I was just watching the Junior College National Championships on TV and the announcers said that the two Polish players from the College of Southern Idaho are heading to Southern Cal next year. Is this true? I did a Google search to find out more about these two players and both of them played in the Polish professional league. I thought that foreign players who played in pro leagues couldn't play D-1 in the US? Does anyone know the rule on this and, if foreign pros really aren't legal, how has USC managed to get these two eligible? Are you sure they played in their club's first division team? I did a quick search and couldn't find conclusively either way. Each club will have several teams, only their first division team would be a pro team (in Poland).
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Post by BearClause on Nov 29, 2005 2:04:04 GMT -5
This has been brought up before in other posts. Can't be expected to read every single post. Perhaps this poster did not see this. This is a place to ask questions and hopefully get good answers. The above is not one them. (good answers) Thank you BearClause for an explanation. I understood your original point before further clarification. ;D
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Post by roofed! on Nov 29, 2005 4:16:29 GMT -5
If Marta Siemiatkowska is joining JoAnna Kaczor at USC, that will be great news, as the team needs an MB player. That means all 3 scholies for 2006 are now filled.
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Post by Miles Brandy on Nov 29, 2005 10:56:09 GMT -5
If Marta Siemiatkowska is joining JoAnna Kaczor at USC, that will be great news, as the team needs an MB player. That means all 3 scholies for 2006 are now filled. If this is true, it's double trouble for USC when they are investigated on these player's eligibility. I posted these links to the professional sites when they announced that they had signed Kaczor. If they have signed the other kid too, I don't see how the NCAA can allow them to play. Are you sure they played in their club's first division team? I did a quick search and couldn't find conclusively either way. Each club will have several teams, only their first division team would be a pro team (in Poland). They both played in the league, 1st Division...the links below are to their clubs rosters that include their photos and stats. This one is Kaczor's team: www.zec-service.com.pl/pl/gwardia.htmlThis is a link to the town's description of the pro league: www.askfactmaster.com/WroclawThis is a link to Nicole Davis's team that plays in the same league: nafta-pila.info/index.php?id=4&sub=4This one is the roster to Marta's team and the season she played: www.calisiassk.pl/druzyna.php?go=druzyna_sezon2003-2004This is a link to Marta's club team and the history of what division they played in....notice that the year's Marta was on the roster they were in Division I: www.calisiassk.pl/index.php?go=historiaIf these kids end up eligible you can honestly say that the NCAA rules are.....that there are no rules!!!
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Post by Gorf on Nov 29, 2005 11:02:24 GMT -5
Isn't there some sort pf 80+ page NCAA document with rules, regulation, requirements and who knows what else that colleges need to follow in order to sign foreign players these days?
How the *bleep* do such players get sign so often when some of the steps involved can each take multiple months to resolve?
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Post by Wolfgang on Nov 29, 2005 11:04:54 GMT -5
I can see how allowing Polish people to roam the USC campus can be so offensive. Yes.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 29, 2005 11:11:34 GMT -5
Isn't there some sort pf 80+ page NCAA document with rules, regulation, requirements and who knows what else that colleges need to follow in order to sign foreign players these days? USC has followed the rules; lets not be stirring up trouble for our BELOVED WOMEN OF TROY. How the *bleep* do such players get sign so often when some of the steps involved can each take multiple months to resolve? The people enforcing the rules are USC FOOTBALL FANS
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2005 12:14:49 GMT -5
I don't get it.
Somebody needs to explain the joke to me.
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Post by foreignball on Nov 29, 2005 12:55:23 GMT -5
As long as USC has never been in troubles with Debora Seilhamer’s eligibility (at least I haven’t heard) they may know how to handle those ‘touchy’ situations
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