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Post by roofed! on Dec 17, 2005 21:49:03 GMT -5
Another thing I've noticed is that they didn't show much replays.
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Post by Gorf on Dec 17, 2005 21:57:47 GMT -5
That's called panicking. I'm not talking about subtle changes. I'm talking about some of the suggestions made here to re-tool the entire team. I didn't expect to see re-tooling of the team. I did expect more of your "subtle" changes. I don't think it was a bad idea too take her out of the game either time, however, I was surprised he kept Larson out as long as he did both times. She looked scaerd / shocked the handful of times they showed closeups of her. I guess that's the life of a frosh in the spotlight in the national championship match. She passed very well at the start of game 3, actually it seemed she passed pretty well for much of game 3. How many times did they hide her on serve receive in the first two games when she was passing poorly overall and continually being served at by the Huskies? I want to be PREPARED during the course of the season by making such adjustments in matches so I'm ABLE to try it in the final if necessary. If he had used Schwartz for a few consecutive series for Pavan in the back row in the 1st or 2nd games to give Sarah a chance to settle down it isn't as if the end result of the game could have been considerably worse than what did happen. Actually, after thinking about it a bit more the Huskies being able to win pretty much all of the long rallies was as important as almost anything else in the match. Washington's back row defense and blocking were both statistically significantly better than their overall season averages. That's very impressive for a national championship match against a very high quality opponent that didn't give up in the match. I didn't say no adjustments, I said key adjustments. I didn't really think they made significant adjustments in areas that were hurting them over the course of the match. Still, all in all, it was more Washington playing extremely well that won the match.
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Post by beachman on Dec 17, 2005 23:26:47 GMT -5
Hey Coach Cook, nice timeout in that first game with the score 0-2. Oh, uh, maybe I should address you as Coach of the Year, John Cook! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2005 23:29:46 GMT -5
I still want to know what was wrong with that timeout.
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Post by Gorf on Dec 17, 2005 23:31:20 GMT -5
Hey Coach Cook, nice timeout in that first game with the score 0-2. Oh, uh, maybe I should address you as Coach of the Year, John Cook! ;D Lemme guess Beachie, you'd prefer he save his timeouts until the match is over like BG?
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Post by tomclen on Dec 17, 2005 23:35:08 GMT -5
I still think it was the dumbest coaching move I've ever seen. I think it sent a strong negative psychological message to his team: "Yikes, we're in trouble already." The Huskies were down 0-2 to start the 2nd game....so what? They were down even further in the 3rd game. You just can't call a timeout that early. 5-0, maybe 4-0. But even that's a stretch. I think he zapped the confidence from his team and they never recovered.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2005 23:53:07 GMT -5
Didn't UW call one at 1-4 in game 3?
Unless we know what Cook saw and what he was addressing, I don't see how we can conclude it was wrong to take the TO -- especially since they responded well to it.
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Post by Orpheus on Dec 17, 2005 23:53:40 GMT -5
I still think it was the dumbest coaching move I've ever seen. I think it sent a strong negative psychological message to his team: "Yikes, we're in trouble already." The Huskies were down 0-2 to start the 2nd game....so what? They were down even further in the 3rd game. You just can't call a timeout that early. 5-0, maybe 4-0. But even that's a stretch. I think he zapped the confidence from his team and they never recovered. I have to agree. It's obviously just my opinion, and I haven't collected data from interviewing the Huskers, but I can't see any kind of positive message coming out of that time out. It's not like Cook sat them down to say, "Hey, I noticed that when that Darla gal runs a 31, Courtney has a tendency of setting Sanja a 'd,' and when Darla comes round for a slide, Sanja is given a 'pipe.' Stay vigilant on that because we all know how bad we want to shut her down." or "Ladies, we've just committed two errors to start our battle for the national championship, but the good news is, I've just saved a lot of money on car insurance by switching to geico." I can't help but think he was brow beating and pointing out of the obvious because there hadn't been enough game play to say anything meaningful. I'm all for calling out the slow starters, but urge them from the sidelines to pick it up. His show of no confidence involved the entire team by taking that time out. It appeared they took the floor with more focus on "not starting bad" as opposed to playing in the moment and getting into rhythm/system.
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Post by Gorf on Dec 17, 2005 23:56:22 GMT -5
I still think it was the dumbest coaching move I've ever seen. I think it sent a strong negative psychological message to his team: "Yikes, we're in trouble already." The Huskies were down 0-2 to start the 2nd game....so what? They were down even further in the 3rd game. You just can't call a timeout that early. 5-0, maybe 4-0. But even that's a stretch. I think he zapped the confidence from his team and they never recovered. Amazingly for being such a terrible move that zapped their confidence in such a way they never recovered the Huskers came back from that point to take the lead at 7-6 and increased their lead to 10-7. More coaches ought to take such terrible timeouts.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 18, 2005 5:47:52 GMT -5
Still disagree. Some of these girls are still teenagers and they are being put under a national spotlight and enormous pressure. If it was the 2nd game of the regular season and they were playing Witchita State and were down 0-2 would Cook call time out? Or we he let them play thru it and coach from the sideline? I think it sent a very strong negative message.
And one other ploy that I think backfired was the phony outrage over the Sanja Tomasavic "we will crush them" comments. Sanja made that comment midseason to a Seattle P-I reporter. He says she was talking about UCLA. She says she was not talking, or even thinking about Nebraska. English is her second language. It's never her style to take any opponent lightly or to denigrate another team.
I think the Huskies kept hearing about this supposed Nebraska outrage over Sanja's "poor behavior" and it only motivated them more.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Dec 18, 2005 16:35:00 GMT -5
More coaches ought to take such terrible timeouts. This is a cheapshot Gorf and you know it.
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Post by Mulcahy on Dec 18, 2005 19:38:48 GMT -5
The endzone camera was stupid, especially on match point when I couldn't tell which side the ball landed on until the Washington girls ran onto the court- and no replay of it either!
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Post by lilred on Dec 18, 2005 20:07:35 GMT -5
The endzone camera was stupid, especially on match point when I couldn't tell which side the ball landed on until the Washington girls ran onto the court- and no replay of it either! I agree the endzone camera angle was the worst. I read an article though where they wanted to do this more often but usually people aren't sitting in the endzones and so you don't want people to see empty seats. I was watching with the relatives and everyone of them was complaining about that camera angle.
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Post by huskervbfan on Dec 18, 2005 21:12:40 GMT -5
Still disagree. Some of these girls are still teenagers and they are being put under a national spotlight and enormous pressure. If it was the 2nd game of the regular season and they were playing Witchita State and were down 0-2 would Cook call time out? Or we he let them play thru it and coach from the sideline? I think it sent a very strong negative message. Actually he has done it on other occasions all season and it had always worked in the past. It worked here too but the Huskers could just not maintain the momentum. English is her second language. Considering it is only her second language, she certainly presented herself well at the All-American banquet. I wish my first language was that good. Courtney did the best at the banquet I thought though.
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Post by eiv805 on Dec 19, 2005 1:15:03 GMT -5
I'm going to agree with tomclen about the early timeout. I think it had a negative affect on the team, more specifically on Jordan Larson. This was going to be a pressured filled match and by calling that timeout he only magnified the situation.
This should've been "just another match" but by calling that timeout early he put it in the back of the players heads that it wasn't. I think it would've been better to let the team work through the early mistakes to give them confidence. Instead, I think it showed his lack of confidence in his players and his game plan.
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