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Post by Noname on Mar 16, 2004 16:18:37 GMT -5
the morale must be low right now... I am hoping the morale of the team won't be low, since this is a great time for Tuyay, Bender, Woodward, and Jeschke to finally play a full match (hopefully) this season and try and prove to the coaching staff that they are worthy of being starters especially in front of the home crowd, and against BYU too.
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Mar 16, 2004 16:30:36 GMT -5
Red, Red, Red......what am I going to do with you? How old are you kid? First of all, it's not "YOUR" church, there are millions of other members of various shapes, sizes and colors and various degrees of mentalities, from the sane (me) to the insane (Marie Osmond). Second of all, I find if offensive as a Mormon that you dont' have a sense of humor. I mean, how could you not find the initial post a joke? I feel very qualified to poke fun at BYU and Mormonism.....sure I fell short of my 10% tithing last year...I always fall asleep during sacrament meeting in the back row...sometimes I wish that the sacrament bread was Kings Hawaiian bread instead of white bread, and the water was pineapple orange guava juice...sure I detest Young Adult dances, the whole rush to marriage mentality, sometimes I wish I could just attend church without given a church calling, and would die for a 8 piece band, fronted by super diva - now a Mormon - Gladys Knight, instead of our boring church hymns made by white people for white people - but by hell, I am a good Mormon and I will poke fun when I want to!! ;D How was I to infer from your comment that you are Mormon? I have a great sense of humor but couldn't tell by the words that you were kidding. Anyone who belongs can call it "their" church. That is the beauty of it. vb- I didn't bring up the church thing, just responded to it.
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Post by Noname on Mar 16, 2004 16:51:55 GMT -5
More on the suspension
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By Stephen Tsai Advertiser Staff Writer
Four University of Hawai'i volleyball players, including three starters, are suspended until at least Monday for violating a "team rule."
UH coach Mike Wilton said opposite hitter Pedro Azenha, outside hitters Delano Thomas and José José Delgado, and backup middle blocker Dionisio Dante are not allowed to play in matches against top-ranked Brigham Young on Thursday and Saturday or practice with the team while on suspension. Wilton said he will decide on reinstatement when he meets with them on Monday.
"The ball is in their court," Wilton said.
Wilton and several UH players yesterday declined to identify the violated rule. The four suspended players were not available for comment yesterday.
Wilton said the four did not commit a violation of the athletic department's Code of Conduct, meaning the offense did not involve violence, an illegal activity or an academic deficiency. The players remain on the team, and are allowed to receive financial aid from the athletic department and attend classes.
Wilton said the four broke the team rule March 10 after the Warriors' three-game sweep of Southern California in Los Angeles. It was the last night of a four-match road trip.
"I found out the night it happened," Wilton said. "It was after all of the playing was over with. It was specifically an issue that happened at the very, very end of the road trip."
The Warriors returned to Honolulu last Wednesday, and Wilton notified the players of the suspensions last Friday. The four did not practice on Saturday. UH announced the suspensions publicly yesterday afternoon.
"I waited to talk to them about it on Friday," Wilton said. "I wanted to seriously contemplate everything. It is, however, the only decision that brought me peace."
At the start of the season, Wilton said, the players are required to attend a meeting to review the team rules and sanctions. Each player then receives a written copy of the rules.
"There's not a gray area," co-captain Kimo Tuyay said. "It's pretty much: 'This is what it is. You do whatever, you're going to be punished.' ... I'm in support of my teammates, but coach's rules are the rules. I accept that. Also, if you don't have rules, what kind of team are you going to be?"
Of the suspended players, Matt Bender, who will start in place of Azenha, said: "They're my good friends. Their decisions are their own. My personal feelings are totally unimportant as far as those things go. I mean, I love those guys. That's all that matters."
Wilton said seniors Ryan Woodward and Arri Jeschke will open at the two left-side positions. Tuyay might start in place of setter Brian Beckwith, who is suffering from a viral infection.
UH has a roster of 20 players, but league rules allow only 12 to be eligible for each match. With four redshirting and Beckwith questionable, outside hitter Austin Rester, who played football at Texas Tech in 2002, might suit up.
"I think the biggest thing here is we're going to go out and have a lot of fun," Bender said. "I know, personally, all of these guys out here" — he pointed to the backups — "can play as well — if not sometimes better — than those guys who have been on the court. I think we have confidence we can win on Thursday and Saturday night. It's a matter of us just playing well."
Azenha, who averages a team-high 4.67 kills per game, and Thomas, who has 35 aces, are the Warriors' best servers. Delgado is a primary passer.
On replacing Thomas, Woodward said: "It's big shoes to fill. He's got size 15, but I've got 13, and I'm going to do what I can."
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Mar 16, 2004 19:18:39 GMT -5
Here's the link to the Star Bulletin article: starbulletin.com/2004/03/16/sports/story1.htmlThey sound like they can be a fairly cohesive unit after playing together on the 2nd team unit. Shouldn't be a blowout. Should be a much more emotional team this weekend as all the replacements have something to prove. Best of luck to them.
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Post by socalfan on Mar 16, 2004 19:44:15 GMT -5
I just realized something. Winning is NOT important. I'd rather watch Tuyay,Bender, Woody, Ari and Rasay play, then watch all those starters that whine and have NO HEART.
I hope they can pull off a win.
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Post by midwestfan on Mar 16, 2004 22:13:23 GMT -5
Seems like I've read or heard some negative things about Wilton, but I am really impressed that he would have the integrity to make this kind of a move.
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Mar 16, 2004 22:19:31 GMT -5
Yeah I agree. The StarBulletin article makes it sound like it was a tough decision for him. It makes me wonder even more what happened. Sounds like they weren't representing their school appropriately whatever they did. It sucks that Wilton had to make this sort of decision with the "leaders" of the team. To Mike's credit and the rest of the team, I think they will get through this okay and bounce back.
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Post by socalfan on Mar 16, 2004 22:53:20 GMT -5
Integrity and Wilton, Sorry, I have to laugh.
This is a guy who uses an illegal player. Please don't tell me he didn't know.
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Post by midwestfan on Mar 16, 2004 22:59:30 GMT -5
Maybe he learned from that mistake ... I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by beachman on Mar 17, 2004 0:21:06 GMT -5
Nothing like giving BYU a "free pass" on these two matches! I was hoping that they would win at least 1 of the two, which I believe that they could have done had they had their "real" team on the floor....One thing that I would bet for sure and that's that they will have everyone back when Long Beach makes their trek to the Island next month!
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Post by Bookumdanoaloha on Mar 17, 2004 14:28:48 GMT -5
Hey Beachy
You and I are hoping Hawaii gets a split this week. I'd hate to watch the playoffs in Provo. I prefer the Pyramid to Smith Field House. Plus, it'll save me alot of money in airfare.
The way the season is going, there is going to be some upsets in the 1st round - I guarantee it.
As for Hawaii/BYU don't underestimate the "Heart of the Warriors Second Team". These guys will be pumped up. They will definitely have better passing. If that is the case, Kimo "The Gambler Setter" Tuyay will work his magic. He knows BYU better than any setter in the league having played against them for three years. If the passing is there, he'll work the Middle. As far a serving, Ari and Matt are very capable jump servers, and could give the Cougars some problem. Should be very interesting two matches.
Bookumdanoaloha
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Post by Beachy on Mar 17, 2004 17:32:35 GMT -5
Bookum, I think we need BYU to lose more than just one for the playoffs to be at the Pyramid.....or an upset of BYU in the first round. At this point, BYU should get the top seed. Long Beach has 3 conference losses (2 to BYU and 1 to Santa Barbara).....BYU needs to have at least 4 losses for Long Beach to take over the top seed.(assuming LB wins out the rest, always a gamble.) So a split with Hawaii won't cover, will it?.....who does BYU have still to play besides Hawaii?
Beachman.....BYU still has a tough weekend to get thru at Hawaii. Fans always forget how talented some of the players on the bench are. Look at all the school and you will see some great players in back-up roles. Given the competitive nature of these athletes, I would never count Hawaii out. It is very hard to replace a Delano but......don't bet the house on the match. It is not a "free pass".
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Post by beachman on Mar 17, 2004 23:19:06 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong, but BYU still has some very tough matches left, including two at UCLA, right?
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Post by roy on Mar 17, 2004 23:41:29 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong, but BYU still has some very tough matches left, including two at UCLA, right? Correct. They still have to get through UCLA at UCLA. But the only other conference matches will be against USC in Provo and UCSD in San Diego. Those should be easy (or easier) wins for the Cougars. If Hawaii can't take a match from BYU, they will likely lock up the top seed in the MPSF.
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