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Post by BarcelonaBob on Mar 22, 2004 23:51:49 GMT -5
Barcelona Bob, Tuyay can talk trash all night long. Other teams do take him seriously and at the end of the match he always wins the trashtalking contest. Do you know why? He has a "RING". Big deal. Anyone that is as scrawny as Tuyay shouldn't be woofing at other people. Just because a net separates the players on a volleyball court doesn't mean the person doing the trash-talking can't get his ass kicked in the parking lot after the match. If someone like Allen Allen or Trevor Schirman or Samuelson or Milandinovich were to yell at me through the net, I'd be intimidated. But Tuyay? Please.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Mar 23, 2004 3:19:33 GMT -5
Backing the setter is the MB's job.
I wouldn't doubt for a second that the rest of the team would jump in to defend him also.
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Post by BarcelonaBob on Mar 23, 2004 19:03:54 GMT -5
Backing the setter is the MB's job. I wouldn't doubt for a second that the rest of the team would jump in to defend him also. Then by your theory. in the case of this year's UH team, that would be Stanhiser and LeBarre, both of whom are so scrawny they would both get knocked over by an average Al Scates' fart.
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Mar 23, 2004 21:42:20 GMT -5
OH MY!!! I am laughing out loud right now reading BarcelonaBob's comment. That is too funny. I envision 2 palm trees swaying in the wind. If I were a trash talking setter I would want to be Moreno. I would have Burke to be the MB backing me and gold-gloves boxer Johnny Utah. Any MB who injures himself benching 300+ lbs can have my back anytime. That's like the combined weight of Stanheiser and LeBarre. He could curl them like dumbells.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Mar 23, 2004 21:56:08 GMT -5
OH MY!!! I am laughing out loud right now reading BarcelonaBob's comment. That is too funny. I envision 2 palm trees swaying in the wind. If I were a trash talking setter I would want to be Moreno. I would have Burke to be the MB backing me and gold-gloves boxer Johnny Utah. Any MB who injures himself benching 300+ lbs can have my back anytime. That's like the combined weight of Stanheiser and LeBarre. He could curl them like dumbells. I thought it was funny too . If Tuyay would be blown away by an "average" Al Scates fart, I'd wonder what would happen If Al let one fly on a good day. If you get hurt benching 300 plus pounds, you might one to think about taking some plates off. Trying to lift more weight than you can handle isn't advisable.
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Mar 23, 2004 22:18:49 GMT -5
If you get hurt benching 300 plus pounds, you might one to think about taking some plates off. Trying to lift more weight than you can handle isn't advisable. I agree that's not advisable. He was maxing on the bench that day though. It was 365 lbs if I remember correctly. Where was the spotter? Great to see a volleyball player with some size and not just height. Batista could use some of that weight. He's 6'6," and only 165 lbs. And on the topic of trash talking, Burke is quite the opposite of a trash talker. Pena on the other hand, there is a fiery talker who gets everyone mad at him. He probably gets it from his coach. The way Al shoots off to the media, he would be the "trash-talkingest" coach around. Will be a good pair of matches there in a few weeks. Moreno and Pena will be going back and forth all night. It will be interesting to see who everyone is rooting for between UCLA and BYU in a couple of weeks.
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Post by BarcelonaBob on Mar 23, 2004 22:22:59 GMT -5
I agree that's not advisable. He was maxing on the bench that day though. It was 365 lbs if I remember correctly. Where was the spotter? Great to see a volleyball player with some size and not just height. Batista could use some of that weight. He's 6'6," and only 165 lbs. And on the topic of trash talking, Burke is quite the opposite of a trash talker. Pena on the other hand, there is a fiery talker who gets everyone mad at him. He probably gets it from his coach. The way Al shoots off to the media, he would be the "trash-talkingest" coach around. Will be a good pair of matches there in a few weeks. Moreno and Pena will be going back and forth all night. It will be interesting to see who everyone is rooting for between UCLA and BYU in a couple of weeks. I saw Pena play in high school. He was horrible, so I was very surprised he went on to play in college, much less at UCLA. I saw him play last year at Pauley, and while he's gotten alot better, he's still not very good.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Mar 23, 2004 22:23:06 GMT -5
I agree that's not advisable. He was maxing on the bench that day though. It was 365 lbs if I remember correctly. Where was the spotter? Great to see a volleyball player with some size and not just height. Batista could use some of that weight. He's 6'6," and only 165 lbs. Maybe the spotter was looking at tail. Do you know if there is a squat rack in front of the benches? Batista is only 165 lbs? wow. He sure has snap in those wrists though.
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Mar 23, 2004 22:39:40 GMT -5
Maybe the spotter was looking at tail. Do you know if there is a squat rack in front of the benches? Batista is only 165 lbs? wow. He sure has snap in those wrists though. The spotter certainly could have been doing that. I think the sqat racks are across the room aways, but definitely within view. Yeah, Batista has a couple of nicknames circulating now: Rubberband and Gumby. The way his arm snaps down to kill that quickset is incredible. Pena isn't the greatest middle; he is really streaky. He can play well but isn't consistent enough to be more than a good player. Lucky for him UCLA isn't real deep in the middle "quick hitter" position and he is a senior. But he is real emotional and his team feeds off of him. He plays well in front of hostile crowds. Some of the people at the first UH/UCLA game said he flipped off the crowd. They booed him all weekend. He loved it. On a side note--It would be interesting if BYU and UCLA were in the championship game (don't bet on it) just to see who the Hawaii crowd would cheer for. They hate BYU in anything and Pena is UH Public Enemy #1. What a dilemma that would be.
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Post by BarcelonaBob on Mar 23, 2004 23:31:23 GMT -5
The last time the Final Four was played at the SSC was in 1998, and the Final was between Pepperdine and UCLA. It was an interesting dilemma, since Pepperdine had local products Rick Tune, J.J. Riley, and Scott Wong, while UCLA had local product Fred Robins.
And the crowd actually cheered for.....Lewis (which lost an epic 5-game semifinal war with UCLA). Must have been the charisma and fighting spirit of players like Victor Rivera that won the hearts of the Hawaii crowd.
The final was anti-climatic. There was 3500 people at best there to watch. Marv once again got out-gametime-coached by Farting Al Scates, and refused to make any adjustments after the usually not-an-offensive-factor UCLA players Robins and Evan Thatcher went off and were killing every ball in sight. I've never seen Robins get so many kills in a match before. Heck, even I hit the ball harder than him. Oh well...guess Marv was preoccupied with Naeve on the 31, since he kept committing blockers to that, even after Robins and Thatcher started tearing Pepperdine up.
Ah, memories.
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Post by doctordubya on Mar 24, 2004 4:21:57 GMT -5
Best bit of trash talking I've ever heard was in a match where our opponents were playing in a quite garish sky blue and white kit.
Their starting setter goes off injured after a tangle at the net, and the reserve setter who comes on is short and quite fat.
Next play, our outside hitter yells out 'Set me, I wanna hit it over the smurf'
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Mar 24, 2004 5:08:03 GMT -5
On a side note--It would be interesting if BYU and UCLA were in the championship game (don't bet on it) just to see who the Hawaii crowd would cheer for. They hate BYU in anything and Pena is UH Public Enemy #1. What a dilemma that would be. All 28 people in the stands would be rooting against both teams.
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Mar 24, 2004 11:07:49 GMT -5
I know you're kidding barefoot, but IF very few people showed up for a Final Match it looks really bad for the SSC and future hosting. Just a thought. Hope the love of the sport would trump negative feelings for teams whoever they may be. UH and Lewis seem to be pretty tight, I remember watching last year's first couple of games there and they always make a big deal for each other. I bet the illegal player mumbo jumbo has tightened their relationship even more.
Love the "smurf" comment. Very funny.
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Post by USAFAN on Mar 24, 2004 17:27:00 GMT -5
While men's volleyball has its fair share of trash talking. I think the ultimate volleyball trash talking incident has to be the Cuba vs. Brazil matches in the 92 and 96 Olympics. Women can be down right bitches, and these weren't your average women they are Latin women which makes them 1000 times more bitchy. The match was so tense and they were so heated that they even came to blows.
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Post by vballguy2001 on Mar 24, 2004 17:47:02 GMT -5
LBSU always have mouths on them. Polster and Prosser were always nasty.
In 2002, I remember a BYU at LBSU match when LBSU beat em in 3 and there was a little scuffle between Mayol and one of their MB. I think Pessoa got off a swing after the match. All I have to say is I bet Long Beach was glad it was fernando and not Joaquin Acosta. That guy was huge.
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