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Post by aaronic on Mar 28, 2004 20:13:16 GMT -5
Even match, im guessing.
If UH doesnt have their lineup together, its lights out.
UH has got to pass, and serve like "crazy" in order to win.
I wonder what would be a formiddable(sp?) lineup?
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Post by instig8tr on Mar 28, 2004 23:00:07 GMT -5
All I know is that ALL HAWAII FANS should be buying tickets to this game...I mean who wouldnt want to cheer against the team who turned in their beloved Warriors to the NCAA... NO rumors here...just the facts ma'am.  |
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Post by warriordudette88 on Mar 28, 2004 23:15:42 GMT -5
i don't really care if long beach turn us in or not...i'm just going to be there because it is the second to the last home series for the warriors. it seems that this season went by so fast. it's always fun when long beach comes to town because the guys seem to get more fired up to play them. hope to see a great two matches this weekend. now that basketball is done, all the hawaii fans should turn their attention to volleyball. GO WARRIORS!
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Mar 28, 2004 23:27:36 GMT -5
This will definitely be a must-see matchup. With the way UH is starting to come together I think they have a good chance of getting a split next weekend. They will have to rely heavily on the crowd and their emotions to keep a consistent LBSU team on its heels though.
I really believe keeping Bender in the lineup over Azehna is a must. Bender keeps the team going emotionally. Same can be said for Kimo. Kimo's leadership in this time of need has been immeasureable. Beckwith will have his time to play. I just think Kimo is the right piece in this puzzle right now. I think playing Delano and Pedro at the same time will lull the team back to sleep.
Instig8r-since it's not a rumor can you please tell us less-informed who from LBSU spilled the beans on UH and how you found out? This will guarantee it is not a rumor and I really would like to know.
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Post by instig8tr on Mar 29, 2004 1:45:10 GMT -5
Instig8r-since it's not a rumor can you please tell us less-informed who from LBSU spilled the beans on UH and how you found out? This will guarantee it is not a rumor and I really would like to know.[/quote]
Well...it was a former LBSU player who also played overseas...as for how I know, lets just say I know someone close to the NCAA investigation...i would tell you exactly...but if i did, id have to kill you. And thats not my style. ;D
I know everyone wants definite truth and the "facts" to back it up (i.e. exactly who told and how i found out), but sometimes you just have to go with what you hear. I'm just letting the rest of you in on a little known fact...its been rumored before...but its NOT a rumor...its the truth.
The most unfortunate part of this all, is that Hawaii is being punished for a rule that was defined the August of 2002...which was 3 months AFTER they won the championship. Tisk Tisk to the NCAA. How can you break a rule, if it was yet to be made???
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Post by hhandd on Mar 29, 2004 2:24:52 GMT -5
Instig8tr...inside source?....what is this deep throat. Well I have an "inside source" and can tell you that Long Beach had nothing to do with UH getting caught for doing something illegal. Obviously the words integrity, honesty, fair play are foreign to you.
Oh..and get the reason right for why UH may have to forfeit its championship...maybe your "inside source" can help you figure that one out too.
Enjoy a great weekend of volleyball on the island..should be a couple of great matches.
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Post by instig8tr on Mar 29, 2004 3:29:23 GMT -5
the violation that the NCAA found UH guilty on was the rule that a player may not play with or against any professionals...the NCAA found that the hawaii player did not accept money, have a contract or an agent...which were the three clauses of the rule that were in affect. the fact that he played with or against professionals was the rule that was "broken" although it did not take affect until three months after UH won the championship. I just wonder about the NCAA going back in time to punish this violation by taking away a championship rahter than punishing the player with sitting out games on the following season. If they are going to take a championship away from a team for breaking a rule that was made after the fact...then was this rule made only for Hawaii...because there are various players who play in foreign leagues (with professionals) before August of 2002 when the rule was put in affect. there are other questionable championships then...i think the rule was solely made for the NCAA....but only taken affect upon Hawaii...thats too bad.
And please no arguments about Lewis...because they violated different rules....(i.e. contracts, money, agents...and they won the championship AFTER the rule of playing with pros was put in affect.)
AND YES A FORMER LONG BEACH PLAYER DID TURN HAWAII IN...SOUR GRAPES I GUESS.
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Post by beachman on Mar 29, 2004 9:01:56 GMT -5
Interesting babble as I see it! Looks a lot like UH is needing something to get fired up about so we just "manufacture" this kind of rumor in an attempt to get our players and our "fans" to show up and cheer the boys on! Reminiscent of the crap about Cheryl Weaver injuring one of the Wahine several years ago prior to the match.....Guess it just hurts when you get beat by Cal Baptist! ;D  |
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Post by beachman on Mar 29, 2004 9:05:42 GMT -5
Oh, and one more thought.....as you UH fans know full well, a split on the island is a good thing, and I am sure that LBS would love to take two, but the split is nearly as good.....once we get you guys off the island it is usually a little different story anyway, and I like our chances in a match-up at Provo down the road anyway! I kind of figure that BYU doesn't sweep UH twice without the unusual circumstances that they were faced with a couple of week ends ago anyway!
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Post by Gorf on Mar 29, 2004 9:12:58 GMT -5
All I know is that ALL HAWAII FANS should be buying tickets to this game...I mean who wouldnt want to cheer against the team who turned in their beloved Warriors to the NCAA... NO rumors here...just the facts ma'am. Did UH do something that deserved to be turned into the NCAA? I guess you'd think more reputable schools would turn themselves in if that was a known NCAA infraction involving the team. If no infraction actually exists then "a former LBSU play" (or anyone for that matter) turning UH into the NCAA wouldn't matter much would it? |
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Post by beachman on Mar 29, 2004 12:02:26 GMT -5
All I know is that ALL HAWAII FANS should be buying tickets to this game...I mean who wouldnt want to cheer against the team who turned in their beloved Warriors to the NCAA... NO rumors here...just the facts ma'am. YOUR CHEATIN HEART, YOUR CHEATIN HEART! |
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Post by VBbeast on Mar 29, 2004 12:14:52 GMT -5
the fact that he played with or against professionals was the rule that was "broken" although it did not take affect until three months after UH won the championship.
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The definition of what a professional team is was revised 8/02, BUT... the rule that you could not compete with or against a professional team has been in place since the mid to early 90s. (for D1 anyway)
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Mar 29, 2004 13:23:15 GMT -5
Interesting babble as I see it! Looks a lot like UH is needing something to get fired up about so we just "manufacture" this kind of rumor in an attempt to get our players and our "fans" to show up and cheer the boys on! Reminiscent of the crap about Cheryl Weaver injuring one of the Wahine several years ago prior to the match.....Guess it just hurts when you get beat by Cal Baptist! ;D We were going to boo the crap out of LBSU anyway. That stint Weaver pulled wasn't fabricated Beachman, it was real. It felt so good to see Weaver, Haneef, Thomas, and Hochevar walk off the court, Losers! Brian's team has yet to recover from that lost.  Don't get your hopes up Beachman. I wouldn't put what instig8tr made light off past LBSU. Hawai'i has owned the Beach. If you can't beat em, turn them in! |
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Post by beachman on Mar 29, 2004 17:08:32 GMT -5
If you ain't cheatin you got nothin to worry about |
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Mar 29, 2004 17:12:40 GMT -5
If you ain't cheatin you got nothin to worry about Aha! an admission of guilt. Long Beach State fourty Whiners! If you can't beat them, turn them in. Whoo Hoo The Warrior Championship banner is still hanging in the SSC! ;D |
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