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Post by roy on Oct 10, 2006 4:35:43 GMT -5
Passing was off tonight, but overall, not a bad match. What made the Wahine look really off was that you can see Hawaii was trying some different things offensively. There were a few decent passes where Kamanao could run both the middles or the outside but intentionally set the back row instead. I think it is a smart move considering that on paper, this was an "easy" match for Hawaii. This was a good opportunity for them to try some new things before their match against NMSU. And maybe it was my imagination but it seemed they were trying to speed up the tempo of the sets just a little.
Overall, the sets were spread around pretty well. The right side didn't see a lot of action and Keefe really struggled tonight. Serving was good and you can start to see what Shoji is doing in terms of the serving. Boise State really struggled with the serve receive and some of it was just based on youth. But Hawaii's serving has picked up lately.
Boise State played a smart match for their team. Hawaii didn't get a lot of blocks because Boise State did a very good job of keeping the ball in play instead of taking risky swings into the Hawaii block. Boise State made Hawaii earn their points instead of giving away free points. Jenkins was impressive and I don't think Hawaii really scouted her well. They were loading up on Flunder who was kept pretty well in check through the night. Passing for Boise wasn't great so Flunder couldn't take a lot of swings. But Jenkins really picked up the slack and did some damage to the Wahine.
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Post by aaronic on Oct 10, 2006 5:14:38 GMT -5
Finally caught the match.
IDK, Hawaii played really inconsistently tonight. They'd get a comfortable lead and then let the team back in by playing really sloppy.
Passing was also inconsistent.
I like how Houston is using these matches to work on her line shot. It's obviously not always there, but the only way she's going to get it is by practicing during game situations.
This match has me worried about NMSU on Friday. Passing and consistency is key.
I can't believe Mason/Gregory just wasted an excellent defense effort by Woolford, it was a big deflation. McLaughlin sounded pretty irritated by that.
It was nice to see Flunder contained in the first two games, but Jenkins and Klause(sp?) did well.
Hawaii's going to need to put on one hell of an effort against NMSU!
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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 10, 2006 11:48:51 GMT -5
Hawaii played inconsistently because they were experimenting w/ plays, lineups, and rotations against a weak-ass team. If they wanted to, they could've won 30-10, 30-10, and 30-10.
How's the vog?
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 10, 2006 11:51:02 GMT -5
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Post by gobows on Oct 10, 2006 12:54:45 GMT -5
Really bad over Kaneohe Bay!
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Post by tito99 on Oct 10, 2006 14:16:07 GMT -5
tito99, no stats for ms. ong? haha...how silly of me to forget. she had one dig
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Post by mauiboy on Oct 10, 2006 17:09:49 GMT -5
And Gregory should be allowed to play backrow defense just for fun. What is it in Woolford that Shoji likes so much? At this point, she is just not libero material. If Raeceen is unable to play I am sure Dave would not put her in. I think that she does well in practice but tries too hard (or thinks too much) in game play. Dave is just letting her play so that she will loosen up and play like she practices. I used to be frustrated with her play, but this analysis allows me to be more sympathetic towards her. I hope i'm right.
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Post by ooreo46 on Oct 10, 2006 20:08:00 GMT -5
^ Agree with the poster above ^. Dave sees something in her that we, the viewers, can't. She must be one of those "practice" players, if there is such a thing. Awesome and steady in practice, then come game time, they freeze up and choke.
Personally, I notice Raeceen is out of position most of the time. I guess her court awareness will improve as she gains more playing time.
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Post by 5100 on Oct 10, 2006 22:21:05 GMT -5
Well, she has started almost every match but there's still a lot of reception errors from her.
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Post by hwnstunner on Oct 10, 2006 22:35:41 GMT -5
^ Agree with the poster above ^. Dave sees something in her that we, the viewers, can't. She must be one of those "practice" players, if there is such a thing. Awesome and steady in practice, then come game time, they freeze up and choke. Maybe Shoji has no other option? Although Woolford was penciled in as a starter in the beginning of the season, who else can Shoji pick from? The Wahine have many backrow players, so they are deep. However, just because they are deep, it doesn't mean that they are quality enough to play. Blood: She was mentioned to possibly see some playing time in the backrow, but she clearly can hold up fairly well upfront. Kitaguchi: She's still green. Clearly not ready this year to contribute regularly. Ong: I was thinking Ong would be more involved this year, but she's only seen a limited amount so far. I don't know if her lack of playing time has anything to do with the fact she joined the team late, but when she did play the two seasons before, she was strictly a serving specialists. She rarely (or never) was a part of the passing rotation. Maybe she's just a step behind Duggins and Woolford. Thurlby: Although Thurlby can fill in anywhere, I haven't been totally impressed with Thurlby coming in as a DS. She gets her fair share of digs and good passes, but she is very inconsistent in both aspects. I don't know if anyone else noticed, but she gives up a lot of digs. She was struggling in the beginning of the season as a passer, which is probably why she's been coming in less and less. Duggins: Elise is probably the player everyone thinks should be seeing more playing time, but she is also inconsistent in passing and defense. She's a lot faster and mobile, but not much better as far as consistency. Plus, Woolford's payed her dues for three seasons. She may not be the best, but she's available. The thing is the Wahine NEED a defensive player to come in because Keefe doesn't play backrow. Last year, Mason and Houston were subbed out by Hittle or Arnott when it came to passing duties, since the two are out this season, Shoji has to bring in a DS and I honestly think Woolford is the most capable of the bunch.
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Post by 5100 on Oct 11, 2006 1:03:52 GMT -5
Blood: She was mentioned to possibly see some playing time in the backrow, but she clearly can hold up fairly well upfront. Ong: I was thinking Ong would be more involved this year, but she's only seen a limited amount so far. I don't know if her lack of playing time has anything to do with the fact she joined the team late, but when she did play the two seasons before, she was strictly a serving specialists. She rarely (or never) was a part of the passing rotation. Maybe she's just a step behind Duggins and Woolford. Thurlby: Although Thurlby can fill in anywhere, I haven't been totally impressed with Thurlby coming in as a DS. She gets her fair share of digs and good passes, but she is very inconsistent in both aspects. I don't know if anyone else noticed, but she gives up a lot of digs. She was struggling in the beginning of the season as a passer, which is probably why she's been coming in less and less. I don't know why Shoji doesn't use Blood more in the backrow. The few times that she stuck her there, she's done fairly well as a passer and defender. As for Ong, we can't tell how good (or bad) she is as a passer because Shoji has NEVER used her as a passer even when she was the libero vs. Wisconsin. Also, she gets to play defense only if her serve is kept in play. It's her third year on the team, which makes me wonder why she hasn't seen more time. Until Shoji puts her out there for a significant amount of time and she sucks big time, I won't stop campaigning for her. As for Thurlby, she is doing what is being asked of her. She's a natural setter and a good attacker. Passing and defense are just added bonus for her.
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Post by bowman on Oct 11, 2006 1:42:44 GMT -5
^ Agree with the poster above ^. Dave sees something in her that we, the viewers, can't. She must be one of those "practice" players, if there is such a thing. Awesome and steady in practice, then come game time, they freeze up and choke. Personally, I notice Raeceen is out of position most of the time. I guess her court awareness will improve as she gains more playing time. agree with your assessment. not much more time to improve. she actually looked slower to react than last year. counted at least a five times when she yelled out for the ball but was not in position to receive. hope she gets better or give it up to someone else.
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Post by VBwatcher on Oct 11, 2006 1:54:45 GMT -5
^ Agree with the poster above ^. Dave sees something in her that we, the viewers, can't. She must be one of those "practice" players, if there is such a thing. Awesome and steady in practice, then come game time, they freeze up and choke. Personally, I notice Raeceen is out of position most of the time. I guess her court awareness will improve as she gains more playing time. You know, I also noticed that Woolford did slide a lot on serve receive, but that's it...she slides to it but still no contact...out of position several times
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Post by hwnstunner on Oct 11, 2006 2:46:29 GMT -5
Blood: She was mentioned to possibly see some playing time in the backrow, but she clearly can hold up fairly well upfront. Ong: I was thinking Ong would be more involved this year, but she's only seen a limited amount so far. I don't know if her lack of playing time has anything to do with the fact she joined the team late, but when she did play the two seasons before, she was strictly a serving specialists. She rarely (or never) was a part of the passing rotation. Maybe she's just a step behind Duggins and Woolford. Thurlby: Although Thurlby can fill in anywhere, I haven't been totally impressed with Thurlby coming in as a DS. She gets her fair share of digs and good passes, but she is very inconsistent in both aspects. I don't know if anyone else noticed, but she gives up a lot of digs. She was struggling in the beginning of the season as a passer, which is probably why she's been coming in less and less. I don't know why Shoji doesn't use Blood more in the backrow. The few times that she stuck her there, she's done fairly well as a passer and defender. As for Ong, we can't tell how good (or bad) she is as a passer because Shoji has NEVER used her as a passer even when she was the libero vs. Wisconsin. Also, she gets to play defense only if her serve is kept in play. It's her third year on the team, which makes me wonder why she hasn't seen more time. Until Shoji puts her out there for a significant amount of time and she sucks big time, I won't stop campaigning for her. As for Thurlby, she is doing what is being asked of her. She's a natural setter and a good attacker. Passing and defense are just added bonus for her. I agree about Ong, we really havent seen her in the backrow except to serve. I was expecting her to be more involved this year. =/ oh well. Campaign as much as you can bro! lol, if anyone needs to get a shot its BLOOD! She's very compelling. For her career she's hitting 1.000. 5 kills on 5 attempts. Everytime she's hit, she's put a lot of speed on her hits. She also seems to be very athletic because while jumping while hitting quick sets, she's still able to cut back, something that Sanders and Gregory can't do all to well. Anyway, I'd REALLY like to see her play a complete set. Just for kicks.
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Post by aaronic on Oct 11, 2006 3:49:33 GMT -5
I may be biased, but I think Duggins is one of Hawaii's better DS's. Sure she does have her miscues, but much less than Woolford. She will challenge Lee for the next two years.
When she uses her JS, it's more effective than Lee's floater. Not to mention whenever she's set, she just pounds it!
But you just can't say enough about Lee. The Wahine should be very greatful. Like I said she potentially could be as good as Candace Lee by her SR year!
Also, Thurlby has an excellent JS too, too bad she's backed down from that.
As for Ong, she had loads of potential last season with her strong serving, but this year she just doesn't have it. Also, it looks as if she lost her competitive spirit. Oh well...
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