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Post by volleysean27 on Oct 10, 2006 12:44:58 GMT -5
So this weekend should be great volleyball in LA. Four top 10 teams are battling it out. When was the last time four teams in the top ten in the same conference played one another ??
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 10, 2006 13:02:58 GMT -5
Last season.  Pac-10. |
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 10, 2006 13:03:14 GMT -5
This should be renamed "The Leaders of the Pac"
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Post by D. B. Cooper on Oct 10, 2006 13:04:40 GMT -5
So this weekend should be great volleyball in LA. Four top 10 teams are battling it out. When was the last time four teams in the top ten in the same conference played one another ?? All 4 at the same time? Is that even possible? Some crazy 4 way net thingy or something. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2006 13:05:56 GMT -5
Over.
Rated.
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Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Oct 10, 2006 13:40:14 GMT -5
Last season. Pac-10. Not in the same weekend. Basically something like this is going to happen when all the California schools are in the top 10; last year Cal was never ranked that high. |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Oct 10, 2006 13:51:37 GMT -5
Note that the Pac Ten are bunching up at the top of Pablo, too, so you can't blame it all on a Pac Ten bias in the voters. OTOH, Pablo also has pushed Cal out of the top |
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Post by BearClause on Oct 10, 2006 14:00:12 GMT -5
Note that the Pac Ten are bunching up at the top of Pablo, too, so you can't blame it all on a Pac Ten bias in the voters. OTOH, Pablo also has pushed Cal out of the top I'm rather scratching my head as to why Cal is ranked #7. I guess they're still 14-2, but I realize that going 11-0 against mostly "soft" nonconference competition doesn't necessarily impress. Still - it's good for recruiting and makes for some interesting discussion here. |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Oct 10, 2006 14:21:48 GMT -5
I'm rather scratching my head as to why Cal is ranked #7. I guess they're still 14-2, but I realize that going 11-0 against mostly "soft" nonconference competition doesn't necessarily impress. Have you learned nothing from all the AVCA discussions? That crap doesn't matter. All that matters is, what were they ranked last week and did they lose (and to whom, to an extent). 14 - 2 means they won while teams in front of them lost. Losses to good teams don't slow that climb. It's the same way Purdue go to #9. Win most of the time, don't have bad losses, and get them at good times (like when teams around you lose, too) |
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Post by BearClause on Oct 10, 2006 14:30:58 GMT -5
Have you learned nothing from all the AVCA discussions? That crap doesn't matter. All that matters is, what were they ranked last week and did they lose (and to whom, to an extent). 14 - 2 means they won while teams in front of them lost. Losses to good teams don't slow that climb. It's the same way Purdue go to #9. Win most of the time, don't have bad losses, and get them at good times (like when teams around you lose, too) I'm just trying to think rationally as a counter to the irrational AVCA voting process. I know it doesn't help, but at least it keeps me sane (I think). |
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Post by brybry on Oct 10, 2006 14:36:20 GMT -5
If Cal loses twice this weekend, they'll obviously drop. But it's not like there are ton of deserving teams that should leap ahead of them.
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Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Oct 10, 2006 14:39:30 GMT -5
It sounds strange to say this, but the match that could really change Cal's AVCA ranking would be Oregon in a couple of weeks.  Begging to differ with brybry, but losing to a higher-ranked team doesn't hurt you a whole lot. |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Oct 10, 2006 14:59:36 GMT -5
It sounds strange to say this, but the match that could really change Cal's AVCA ranking would be Oregon in a couple of weeks. Begging to differ with brybry, but losing to a higher-ranked team doesn't hurt you a whole lot. Losing once to a higher ranked team doesn't hurt you a whole lot, especially if that team is top 5 (bigger cost outside the top 5) but I think losing twice, even too good teams, is going to be bigger. Even if it is just additive, it will be a bigger drop that has been occuring. |
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Post by Pirate VB Fan on Oct 10, 2006 16:40:15 GMT -5
It sounds strange to say this, but the match that could really change Cal's AVCA ranking would be Oregon in a couple of weeks. Begging to differ with brybry, but losing to a higher-ranked team doesn't hurt you a whole lot. Losing once to a higher ranked team doesn't hurt you a whole lot, especially if that team is top 5 (bigger cost outside the top 5) but I think losing twice, even too good teams, is going to be bigger. Even if it is just additive, it will be a bigger drop that has been occuring. UW lost to USC and UCLA in the same weekend and went from #4 to #5, exchanging spots with USC, but staying above Stanford and Cal whom they had dominated the week before. If CAL loses to USC and UCLA (both ranked above them) it is very possible they will stay at #7 as the only teams they will have lost to are the four teams immediately in front of them. Same thing goes if Stanford gets swept. |
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Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Oct 10, 2006 16:54:11 GMT -5
The matches UW lost were close -- particularly the UCLA match. P-dub's probably looked at this more than I have, but I'd guess that two bad losses to slightly-higher-ranked teams could hurt you in the AVCA poll. A lot of this comes down to what the voters can use as a standard of comparison between Cal and Florida, Purdue, Texas, etc., I suppose.
This is all speculation, but speculating is fun, isn't it?
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Pac-10. 
Begging to differ with brybry, but losing to a higher-ranked team doesn't hurt you a whole lot.