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Post by Floyd R. Turbo on Dec 18, 2006 12:03:01 GMT -5
So...in the interest of never giving a potential home-court advantage to anyone in the Final Four, I propose that the FF never be played within 500 miles of any team that's any good. That'll be a great atmosphere. Let's ship 'em all to...uh...well...how about Tibet? Far enough away for y'all?
I fully expect Stanford to be back in the FF next year. I also fully expect Stanford fan to show up in huge numbers in Sacramento (I know, it's more than the 60 miles between Omaha and Lincoln, but Stanford is a helluva lot closer to Sacramento than any other '07 front-runners).
Deal with it.
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Post by BearClause on Dec 18, 2006 12:05:28 GMT -5
So...in the interest of never giving a potential home-court advantage to anyone in the Final Four, I propose that the FF never be played within 500 miles of any team that's any good. That'll be a great atmosphere. Let's ship 'em all to...uh...well...how about Tibet? Far enough away for y'all? I fully expect Stanford to be back in the FF next year. I also fully expect Stanford fan to show up in huge numbers in Sacramento (I know, it's more than the 60 miles between Omaha and Lincoln, but Stanford is a helluva lot closer to Sacramento than any other '07 front-runners). Deal with it. Do you listen to Jim Rome or something? I mean - the singular "fan" in describing certain fan bases is his style. Or was that unintentional.
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Post by Floyd R. Turbo on Dec 18, 2006 12:13:13 GMT -5
So...in the interest of never giving a potential home-court advantage to anyone in the Final Four, I propose that the FF never be played within 500 miles of any team that's any good. That'll be a great atmosphere. Let's ship 'em all to...uh...well...how about Tibet? Far enough away for y'all? I fully expect Stanford to be back in the FF next year. I also fully expect Stanford fan to show up in huge numbers in Sacramento (I know, it's more than the 60 miles between Omaha and Lincoln, but Stanford is a helluva lot closer to Sacramento than any other '07 front-runners). Deal with it. Do you listen to Jim Rome or something? I mean - the singular "fan" in describing certain fan bases is his style. Or was that unintentional. I do listen to Rome (he's on right now, in fact) but that "fan" was just a typo. Pretty funny, though. ;D
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Dec 18, 2006 12:21:33 GMT -5
Frank Calliendo does a really funny Jim Rome impression. He has all his mannerisms down.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2006 13:43:59 GMT -5
So...in the interest of never giving a potential home-court advantage to anyone in the Final Four, I propose that the FF never be played within 500 miles of any team that's any good. That'll be a great atmosphere. Let's ship 'em all to...uh...well...how about Tibet? Far enough away for y'all? I fully expect Stanford to be back in the FF next year. I also fully expect Stanford fan to show up in huge numbers in Sacramento (I know, it's more than the 60 miles between Omaha and Lincoln, but Stanford is a helluva lot closer to Sacramento than any other '07 front-runners). Deal with it. If you want to guarantee great numbers in Sacto, ensure the following make it into the Final Four (by seeding): Nebraska Stanford Hawaii Minnesota
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Post by OverAndUnder on Dec 18, 2006 14:02:43 GMT -5
What if... because of the exposure of the sport held in Omaha, more people are introduced to the sport more than ever, across the nation, via T.V. and the excitement everyone witnessed there like no time before? If this happens and the sport grows more from this event than ever before does your arguments hold up? There's nothing wrong with having a "short list" made up of certain proven sites every year. Hawai'i, Nebraska, Wisconsin/Minnesota, Washington. But it's important at this point to continue to mix in a new but easily accessible spot every other year or so, especially places with easier air travel from most parts of the country - Chicago, Vegas, Salt Lake, Denver, Austin, Dallas, New Orleans, St. Louis. Notice that both here and in my original post I said "at this point". As the sport grows and changes, there may come a time when it would be best to have a fixed host or a host that rotates regularly among three specific cities.
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Post by beachman on Dec 18, 2006 14:59:16 GMT -5
I think Chicago should be the permanent host. We have a lot of volleyball fans, we have absolutely no good collegiate programs and we're a travel hub. A travel hub that can be a nightmare to get to in Mid December
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2006 15:37:47 GMT -5
First off, I don't think Omaha should be a permanent site.
It is funny though that prior to this weekend, there wasn't near as much of an outcry because most of you thought the powerful Pac 10 would break the hearts of thousands of Husker fans. You just didn't take into account the size of heart in our team.
The issue to me is fan base vs empty seats which equates to revenue to the NCAA and the host city. Do the host cities promise a certain amount of cash to the NCAA regardless of the money made? Agreed that not knowing who's in the final four will always be a problem in selling seats in certain areas of the country. So if it's about generating fan base then it still needs to be semi regionalized to areas where big time vb schools are at, if they make it great, if they don't the fans will still come. If it's not about generating fan base then continue to put it where ever and if there is a crowd great, if not great. John Dunning mentioned multiple times last weekend that this event was possibly the most important thing for the sport. If the coaches feel that way then they need to rally the NCAA to putting the tourney in places where the seats will fill, host team or not. Nebraska fans would've attended this final four Huskers or not, would they have had 17,000 + probably not but I think they would've challenged Wisconsin's numbers just the same. Having tourneys only where there are major airport hubs is silly. If and when the sport becomes a major fan attraction throughout the country, it won't matter where it is. Until that time comes, the NCAA needs to take notice of what happened this past weekend and find a way to generate the interest somewhere else.
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Post by jgrout on Dec 18, 2006 15:39:14 GMT -5
I was there, and I'm a Stanford Fan, but I have to take issue with the wording here. I didn't hear one NU Fan cheer against Stanford. I heard 17,000 (minus the 200 or so Stanford Fans) NU fans cheering FOR NU. In fact they had more class and exhibited more sportsmanship then we did. The guy who made the "mating water buffalo" sounds when NU players served was completely uncalled for. I apologized for Cliff to several folks around us. I liked one person's response... please make sure you take him back with you! Cliff is a BOOSTER... he isn't in Stanford godfather John Arrillaga's league, but, measured in powers of ten (or zeroes) on checks, he's probably closer to Mr. Arrillaga than I am to him. Though I didn't hear NU fans booing Stanford, they did start cheering "Go Big Red!" during a few Stanford-designated timeouts (each team gets to lead cheers, play fight songs, etc., at every other timeout)... not over ones featuring a recording of the Band playing "All Right Now", but over ones with some less-identifiably Stanford theme. NU's band, mascot and cheerleaders followed the rules though... and with good reason: the NCAA can really nail non-compliant performers (the Tree mascot itself, not the jerk who was wearing it, earned a ban from this year's NCAA women's BB tournament for non-compliance with tournament officials).
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Post by cinnamonopus on Dec 18, 2006 16:26:54 GMT -5
Well if you're looking for a nice neutral court for the final four, the University of Alberta has a decent facility. Also, there's a couple of lovely gyms in Osaka and Tokyo that would be good. Lots of nearby shopping.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2006 17:32:50 GMT -5
Canada isn't going to work. Too big of an advantage for Minnesota.
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Post by CoachMark on Jan 4, 2007 22:39:32 GMT -5
Canada isn't going to work. Too big of an advantage for Minnesota. With all due respect to Ruffda, whose posts I find amusing and insightful, shouldn't that last post read "Canada isn't going to work. Too big of an advantage for Minnesota, EH???"
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Post by letch0125 on Jan 5, 2007 11:10:57 GMT -5
I agree that the there should be new sites every year. The only FF I have ever attended was held years ago at Cleveland State (who has a beautiful arena, by the way) with Stanford and Hawaii in the championship match. Obviously, the Stanford and Hawaii fans probably weren't thrilled with the site selection, but had Penn State or Ohio State made the FF, you would have had a different reaction. I remember area high school and college coaches getting their teams to attend and a lot of area interest even though no "home" team was playing. On the other hand, if any east coast or midwest teams I follow were to ever make the FF and it was being played in Omaha, I'm sorry, unless I have a daughter on the team, I'm not going. The point is, rotating sites gives people like me a chance to attend, is more fair as a "neutral site" opportunity, and showcases the sport more than a permanent host would.
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Post by Gorf on Jan 6, 2007 13:24:57 GMT -5
Canada isn't going to work. Too big of an advantage for Minnesota. With all due respect to Ruffda, whose posts I find amusing and insightful, shouldn't that last post read "Canada isn't going to work. Too big of an advantage for Minnesota, EH???" Do Canadians actually say "eh?" like that? I've never heard the Canadian's I know say that. I've never heard anyone from New Jersey (at least those not from Newark) call their state New Joisey. I've never heard (R)uffda! swear like a drunken sailor. Other than that one time involving the soiled poncho of course.
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Post by jgrout on Jan 6, 2007 19:42:23 GMT -5
I've never heard anyone from New Jersey (at least those not from Newark) call their state New Joisey. No wonder... that's a Hudson County accent: Newark is in Essex County. Believe me, there are many people from Jersey City and Bayonne who really do say "New Joisey" and "Tirty-Tird Street". Counties like Essex and Union and Bergen have their own accents, but they're not quite so distinctive to those who haven't lived in New Jersey long enough to distinguish them (I spent six years).
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